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BUSH wins

 
 
Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2005 03:20 pm
? Saddam didn't kick the UN weapons inspectors out of Iraq.
http://www.fair.org/activism/post-expulsions.html

But bush did.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-03-17-insp...

--Saddam targeted extremist Shite al-Sadr & his militia

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect4.htm...

So did bush.

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/portrait_...

--Saddam wouldn't let human rights groups into all prisons;

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect4.htm...

Neither will bush.

Rights Groups Demand That US Open All Detention Facilities

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0510-01.htm

Officer Says Army Tried to Curb Red Cross Visits to Prison in Iraq

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0519-04.htm

War Crimes: Gen. Sanchez Hid Prisoner From Red Cross

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/061404B.shtml

--Saddam arbitrarily arrested Iraqis; tortured Iraqis;

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect4.htm...

So does bush.

70% to 90% of Iraq Prisoners 'Arrested by Mistake'

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0511-04.htm

Detainees Suffer Terror at US Hands; Red Cross Says Torture Part of Deliberate Tactic

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0512-10.htm

Iraqi Security Tactics Evoke the Hussein Era

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-deta...

--Saddam arrested and tortured children;

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect4.htm...

So does bush.

Military Analyst Describes Abuse of 16-Year-Old in Iraq Prison

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0520-07.htm

Iraq's child prisoners

http://www.sundayherald.com/43796

*And wait until the so-far unreleased batch of Abu Ghraib photos and videos are made public. Be sure to cover your ears; the screaming of the children tortured by the US will scar your soul forever.

--Saddam "disappeared" Iraqis;

http://hrw.org/worldreport99/mideast/iraq.html

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect4.htm...

So does bush.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15981-20...

--Hussein "mass-graved thousands" (5100 remains found to date);

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-07/18/content_16...

So does bush.

Mass graves to reveal Iraq war toll

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1021466,00....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A53654-2003Apr...

http://www.sptimes.ru/archive/times/878/opinion/o_9708....

But BUSH is the winner of record number of Abu Ghraib detainees;

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200504/s1342893.ht...

BUSH is the winner for doubling the child malnutrition rate

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-03-30-un-i...

BUSH is the winner for Iraqis being 58 times more likely to die

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3962969.stm

BUSH is the winner for less oil & electricity

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=business&st...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

BUSH is the winner for less clean drinking water, sanitation

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/recons...

BUSH is the winner for creating terrorists in Iraq

http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=25437

BUSH is the winner for creating terrorists outside Iraq

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3451239.stm

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2629.htm...

http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/terrorwar/analysis/2...

Into the third year of American "superiority", Iraqis Endure Worse Conditions Than Under Saddam
http://www.health-now.org/site/article.php?menuId=14&ar...

bush wins.


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Bob Lablob
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2005 03:34 pm
I'm sooooooo glad Iraq is now a Democracy! Before you know it, there'll be Ramada Inns and everything! Maybe we should introduce casino gambling there, too. Gosh, isn't freedom grand?
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2005 03:40 pm
Hey, they ARE having an election, ya know.












Oh, wait. So did Saddam.
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Bob Lablob
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2005 03:43 pm
I'm votin' for Jesus!

But for now....a gin and tonic....scratch the tonic.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Wed 12 Oct, 2005 02:55 am
Saddam may vote on new Iraqi charter Smile

Saddam will have the right to vote in prison
TimesOnline
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 12 Oct, 2005 03:09 am
hmmm, i don't think these comparisons do service to all those who are against the war, like myself. i was never a fan of likening american administration to nazi fascists or dictatorships of saddam's format. i hear the frustration and i share it, but this is way too taken out of context. it's extreme. no extreme position can be very fruitful - not the one on the right, neither the one on the left. what we need are constructive alternatives. and it is up to us to come up with some, step by step, so that we have a basis to evaluate current policies on solid foundations, without the emotional venom.
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 12 Oct, 2005 07:48 am
dogmarkaka, you may be right, but it is an irony the similarities.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 13 Oct, 2005 12:48 pm
dagmaraka wrote:
hmmm, i don't think these comparisons do service to all those who are against the war, like myself. i was never a fan of likening american administration to nazi fascists or dictatorships of saddam's format. i hear the frustration and i share it, but this is way too taken out of context. it's extreme. no extreme position can be very fruitful - not the one on the right, neither the one on the left. what we need are constructive alternatives. and it is up to us to come up with some, step by step, so that we have a basis to evaluate current policies on solid foundations, without the emotional venom.


word, dagmaraka.

as much fun as it is to point out dubya's..uhhh, idiosyncrasies, it's doing nothing now but keeping us amused.

the guy's trip is crumbling around him, not because a lot of us hollered "MORON!!!" for 5 years, but because he is a moron and has managed to do nothing but continuously shoot himself in the ass to the point where anyone who's not wondering about him has something other than the welfare of our country on their mind.

as members of his opposition, we've won. as citizens of the united states, we have all lost.

so, what we should be doing now, is putting heads together to solidify the ideas and solutions that we think should be put in place.

here's one;

1) - trim down all of those tax cuts. it's not doing what it was supposed to do. jobs are still going out of the country, prices are going up, and employees are being hustled out of their jobs, benies and pensions. and working harder and longer for the priviledge. sounds plain wrong to me.

the free ride is over. besides a $1.4 billion a week war in iraq, a smaller war in afghanistan, katrina and rita, our infrastructure is not what it should be. our health care program is not what it should be in one of the wealthiest countries. people are bitching about terrorists and illegal aliens, but go ballistic when there's talk of hiring more border guards. the military is giving out cash like crazy to induce people to stay, join and even for getting someone else to join. faith based initiatives ? what the hell ?? the churches take in cash hand over fist, and with zero taxation, and now we're supposed to kick in more?? how does that work ? and to top it off, the churches want to hire only people of their faith, using public money. and to get in the middle of politics. if that's going to be the case, the churches need to pay taxes. they can't have it both ways. what about homeland security ? the list of costs goes on.

the money to pay for it has to come from somewhere.

i guess we could just print more money. it worked so well for the weimar republic. Laughing

from what we can pick up, it looks like the average american is the one doing the work, and paying for most of this stuff. meanwhile, corporate america and rich dudes are setting up a p.o. box company in the caymans to avoid paying taxes, though they are certainly beneficiaries of some of the best things america has to offer.

what was that bumper sticker back in the 70's ?... "cash, grass or ass. nobody rides for free.".


more thoughts, folks ?
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