US Senate Pours Fuel on the Burning Bush

Obviously, as Gustav said, this administration sees torture as a legit tool in the War On Terror.




If he vetoes the bill, the House of Representatives and the Senate have to vote on the bill again. Both need two thirds majorities to override the veto. Bush probably feels that, on the second try, he can get enough Republicans to vote against the bill in the House or Senate to prevent the two thirds majority from occurring.

But that was a majority of more than 90%! That seems to be a lot, and not worth to come out of it looking like a moron because it's the first bill vetoed in 5 years, and it might still go through, non?

On the other hand....

The Senate is more than 90%. We don't know about the House.

Generally, if presidents want to prevent an override of a veto, they are able to twist a few arems to get some people who voted for the bill to change their vote on the override, citing party loyalty, plus the inducements of Federal projects in their state or congressional District.

To prevent the override of his veto, Bush would only have to convince either the House or the Senate-either one-to go under 67%.


90% would appear to be way too many for Bush to sway the Senate, though.

Which leaves the House. 435 members in the House. If only 75%. (326 members), of the House vote for the bill-remember the House has not voted on the bill yet-then Bush would have to convince 37 out of 326 Congressmen to switch their vote on the override. That would be hard, but not impossible.

Of course, the 75% number is just conjecture on my part. If the number in the House is anywhere near 90%, Bush would be out of luck there as well.

As a general overall guideline, since the House is made up of people who represent only a small part of each state, it has a reputation for being more partisan, less "statesmenlike", than the Senate. So the sentiment for this anti-torture motion might be less than in the Senate.

Would you believe that monster sold himself as a compassionate conservative. A more apt description would be Satan's spawn

This administration keeps telling the world that the US does not torture its prisoners, so all those underlings in the military have been court martialed, and this administration doesn't want congress to write laws against torture. Mind you, no high ranking officer has been court martialed. What's wrong with this picture?

Bush and the truth are absolute strangers. For a man who professes to believe in God he seems to have no idea or place any worth in the ten commandments.

Don't worry. Once George realizes that this is a fight he can't win, he will, like the spineless weaselly f*ck that he is, was, and always will be, reverse himself completely and pretend that he was for the measure all along.

I think he believes the American public is as stupid as he is. And he's probably right.

But, kicky, the American public is as stupid as he is. About 40 percent of Americans still support this "compassionate conservative," torture and all!

All the obvious conflicts of Bush's style is the mystery. He breaks his vacation in Texas to fly back to DC to try to save one brain damaged woman, while we have millions of children in this country without health insurance. On top of all that, with his aggression against Iraq, our coalition forces have killed upwards of 100,000 innocent Iraqis.

One brain damaged woman = all the children in this country without health insurance and the 100,000 innocent Iraqis killed by our coalition forces. Bush put more effort into saving one brain damaged woman.

Americans are dumb; that's the only logical conclusion.

good.

so then he and his pandieros de tejas won't have s**t to say when they are being bitch slapped in gitmo after they are tried and found guilty of singlemindedly scuttling the ship of state.