Deler wrote:Do I fear death? no
I can sympathise with james as the past few years of my life have been plagued with pain and an absolutely uncertain future. Lingering death is what scares me and the fact that no doctor has given me a straight answer or addressed issues leaves me to wonder how long I have to live. I know I will never grow to be old and grey and this doesn't scare me, the only thing I would miss is my newly rekindled desire to hold my children. I have recently turned my life around from the absolute despair which life has handed me and even since i've gained much from nothing I still do not fear dieing.
I still have every last reason I previously had for despair, the only difference is the way I view my life, limited or not. Should my time come at least I can say that I didn't waste my last days
I am sorry for the pain you suffer from in your life and the pain your family and loved ones have to go through in life. Remember to keep your head up everyday and hope.
Merry Andrew wrote:I'm not scared of it. And neither are some of the other posters here if you read the responses. And why are you yelling?
I wasnt yelling, just that caps lock was on at the time
Sorry if I offended anybody with capital letters
Do we fear Death
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According to Buddhism philosophy all is impermanent. We are born, grow and die because of impermanence. At the time of our passing away we just change our form just like a cloud changes form and becomes rain, the rain nourishes the soil and forms part of plants and trees and so on. What passes away at the time of Death is our sense of the separate ego. That is all that dies - nothing more.
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Death at the thing, it's the thought of being caught in a burning building or t-boned in an intersection...it's the pain I'm no fan of. Also, as has been mentioned, it's having loved ones potentially having to deal with an extended illness I might have but other than that I've had a great run, been to some pretty neat places and have met some wonderful people and, though not often enough, I think I've done some good. Hmmmm, maybe I should just carry a hyperdermic of morphine in case of emergency.
I don't fear death at all. Maybe this life has more to fear if I were. But no, everything will be ok.
Wanda
Death is nothing fearful if you obtain freedom after that.
What is more fearful is that man cannot get out of this reincarnation cycle which means you cannot avoid the basic birth, age, illness, death troubles and have to carry on suffering in addition to life woes.
What is fearful is that man is ignorant about reality and the truth and refuse to change for the better.
It's easy to say I do not fear death when you are not faced with the reality of it. But consider how you would feel if you are faced with an illness that is incurrable and is almost certain to be terminal.
Do fear death? No. Do I fear dying? I would have to answer yes.
That's a relief au
I was starting to think I was on my own here !!
I have come to a few philisophical conclusions in this field:
1. I don't fear death itself. I fear the pain that will come with death. Pain is pain. It hurts, and everyone fears it.
2. I don't fear death itself. I fear that I will die before I do everything I want to on this earth. I fear I will die before my goals are achieved.
3. I don't fear death itself. I fear what lies beyond death, if anything does. I fear what will happen to me once I am dead.
4. I don't fear death itself. I fear that my death will hurt the ones I love. I fear that my death will leave someone I love lonely or lost. I fear that my death will obstruct or ruin the life of another.
So my answer is pretty much yes. I fear death, but I fear it indirectly and through other things. I don't fear it the way some of you are making it seem.
Also, I'm wondering if certain people think it is 'brave' to not fear death; it seems that they think it is craven, materialistic, and even cowardly to fear death. At this, I laugh. It is completely reasonable to fear death, the same as it is reasonable to fear the unknown. A fear of either is perfectly acceptable and, maybe, even expected from an intelligent person. They are tied together, I think, death and the unknown.
To sum up my post: It would be easier to say that I fear death and I do, I fear death, but also, I am anxious about the manner in which I will die and what will happen afterwards, to me and to the ones I love. That is the fear you are discussing in this thread, not the fear of death itself which is summarily a fear of the unknown.
Every moment spent contemplating death is one less moment you actually live.
Besides, once you are dead, you will no longer have the capacity to give a flying monkey turd.
Worrying about it seems ultimately pointless.
Worry is an uncontrolable emotion. Fear is an uncontrolable emotion. Both are subconcious. Fear and worry are alike and completely different and yet, though it is surely pointless, anyone who claims not to fear and worry about death or dying is deluding themselves.
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Worry is an uncontrolable emotion. Fear is an uncontrolable emotion.
Big assertions. Big assertions that may be true of you, but are certainly not universally true.
edgarblythe wrote:I don't think I fear death, but I love living so much, I don't want to die in the forseeable future.
my thoughts exactly
i fear the things i'll miss, really good music, the next generation of video games and consoles, good movies and books
Doktor S wrote:Quote:
Worry is an uncontrolable emotion. Fear is an uncontrolable emotion.
Big assertions. Big assertions that may be true of you, but are certainly not universally true.
True of course, my friend.
Doktor S wrote:Every moment spent contemplating death is one less moment you actually live.
Besides, once you are dead, you will no longer have the capacity to give a flying monkey turd.
Worrying about it seems ultimately pointless.
Unless it helps you keep sight of the value of each second of life you have. Buddhists place a lot of store in thinking about death...with a more rewarding life as one of the goals.
Eorl wrote:Doktor S wrote:Every moment spent contemplating death is one less moment you actually live.
Besides, once you are dead, you will no longer have the capacity to give a flying monkey turd.
Worrying about it seems ultimately pointless.
Unless it helps you keep sight of the value of each second of life you have. Buddhists place a lot of store in thinking about death...with a more rewarding life as one of the goals.
Buddhists also spend most of their time trying to obliterate their own egos.
It's antihumanism is surpassed only by western spirituality.
Jamesw84 wrote:I cant give a dam about what happens to I die because I cant imagine being in a greater state of suffering than right now. If living is so painful, how can I fear death? I have been preached Christianity and they tell me that I would go to hell if i dont do what god says and if I dont believe in what Jesus did for humanity. When I hear this I laugh out to myself thinking how can there be a god in my life if everything has always been so terrible? If god made man and intended for good things to happen to them then why is there so much pain? If I believe in God will the painful past be wiped away? Will my flashbacks just dissapear and be replaced by pleasant memories? I seriously do not know what happens once u believe in god and what kind of benefit u get from it. Christians are so ridiculous because the ones that preach to you have all had wonderful lives and never have experienced any type of prolonging pain over a significant long period of their lives so how can they possibly understand what life is like for some people. I get offended when Christians tell me to be scared of death, because I am already dead, so how can you possibly try making me feel guilty for being who I am? Ive had so much punishment in my life already, so how can God make me feel like im the criminal or sinner they call it, why do I need to be FORGIVEN when I have never hurt anyone and when its other people who have ALWAYS hurt me? In a nutshell, Christianity just doesnt make any sense. After writing this thread, I have convinced myself that I am not a christian and never have been, and probably never will be. So good riddens.
im suffering too james im convinced lifes a bitch,i am what i am thats it.
i feel there could be a reason for suffering but im damned if i know what it is.in some ways death will be my ally, maybe there is some glorious afterlife who knows.i feel sure we are here for a reason..
