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Is It Too Late To Win the War?

 
 
Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2005 09:03 am
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Cover Story: Chasing the Ghosts With doubts about Iraq growing at home, U.S. forces are struggling to put down an elusive and inexhaustible enemy. Michael Ware reports on the state of the counterinsurgency from the front lines of the biggest battle of the year


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Time

Britain ruled out military action to halt Iran's nuclear programme

By Anton La Guardia, Diplomatic Editor
(Filed: 19/09/2005)


Britain ruled out military action to halt Iran's nuclear programme yesterday on the eve of a diplomatic battle by the West to take Teheran to the United Nations Security Council for possible political and economic sanctions.

As hostile rhetoric between the West and Iran intensified, Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, sought to allay fears that the dispute would ultimately lead to war.

He said that an intransigent speech at the UN a day earlier by the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had been "disappointing and unhelpful". But Mr Straw played down the prospect that referring Iran to the Security Council for failing fully to disclose its nuclear activities would lead to an Iraq-style escalation ending in war.

Telegraph

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The UK and US may have to abandon Iraq if central government breaks down and the country is engulfed by chaos, Tony Blair's former special envoy has said


BBC

Are people finally waking up. Was that fat Michael Moore right ?
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Chrissee
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2005 09:22 am
Britain Pulling Out by May
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Chrissee
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2005 09:26 am
We lost the war in the first few weeeks when we didn't take control of the city and allowed the looters to reign free. Free people exercising their freedom, to paraphrase Rummy. The potential insurgents quckly realized that we are not an omnioptnet force and the rest is history. In hindsight, those supporting the war should have demanded going in with a much larger stronger show of force.

The war was lost long ago.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 01:53 am
The war might have been lost when decided to put in a democratic government.

The Shia branch of Islam, not treated very well by other branches of Islam, has only two countries in which they are the majority: Iraq and Iran.

Give the Iraqis the chance to vote, and they will put in a government close to Iran. This is beginning to happen already, and look at all the US troops still in Iraq. How much closer do you think those ties will grow as US forces withdraw from the region?

At the end of this whole military involvement, it looks like Iran will smile at us and say, "Thanks for getting rid of Saddam Hussein for us, chumps".
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 06:24 am
It wasn't a "war". It was an invasion. But it appears to be a war of resistance now.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 06:47 am
No one "wins" a war. I wish the asshats (thanks Slappy!) who had the "disagreement" would just be thrown into a pit and fight their war themselves.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 11:08 am
We accomplished our primary mission very quickly, which was to resolve the WMD issue. As for making Iraq stable, I certainly think it would be possible, given the power at our disposal, if we were willing to do what it took to succeed.

It seems to me that that magazine cover would be likely to give aid and comfort to the enemy, and embolden them to keep fighting.
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 11:10 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
We accomplished our primary mission very quickly, which was to resolve the WMD issue. As for making Iraq stable, I certainly think it would be possible, given the power at our disposal, if we were willing to do what it took to succeed.

It seems to me that that magazine cover would be likely to give aid and comfort to the enemy, and embolden them to keep fighting.


Lets accuse the press of treason.


What country do we live in again?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 12:24 pm
Land of the fear, home of the slave.
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 03:11 pm
Like they need a magazine to keep fighting. Would they give up and surrender if all the sudden we started having fictitious news of progress? Maybe we will get lucky and they will tune in to fox.
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