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Enter 1984 Junior Anti-Sex League via FBI - No More Porn?

 
 
Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 02:09 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091901570.html

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Recruits Sought for Porn Squad

By Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, September 20, 2005; Page A21

The FBI is joining the Bush administration's War on Porn. And it's looking for a few good agents.

Early last month, the bureau's Washington Field Office began recruiting for a new anti-obscenity squad. Attached to the job posting was a July 29 Electronic Communication from FBI headquarters to all 56 field offices, describing the initiative as "one of the top priorities" of Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales and, by extension, of "the Director." That would be FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III.

Mischievous commentary began propagating around the water coolers at 601 Fourth St. NW and its satellites, where the FBI's second-largest field office concentrates on national security, high-technology crimes and public corruption.

The new squad will divert eight agents, a supervisor and assorted support staff to gather evidence against "manufacturers and purveyors" of pornography -- not the kind exploiting children, but the kind that depicts, and is marketed to, consenting adults.

"I guess this means we've won the war on terror," said one exasperated FBI agent, speaking on the condition of anonymity because poking fun at headquarters is not regarded as career-enhancing. "We must not need any more resources for espionage."

Among friends and trusted colleagues, an experienced national security analyst said, "it's a running joke for us."

A few of the printable samples:

"Things I Don't Want On My Resume, Volume Four."

"I already gave at home."

"Honestly, most of the guys would have to recuse themselves."

Federal obscenity prosecutions, which have been out of style since Attorney General Edwin Meese III in the Reagan administration made pornography a signature issue in the 1980s, do "encounter many legal issues, including First Amendment claims," the FBI headquarters memo noted.

Applicants for the porn squad should therefore have a stomach for the kind of material that tends to be most offensive to local juries. Community standards -- along with a prurient purpose and absence of artistic merit -- define criminal obscenity under current Supreme Court doctrine.

"Based on a review of past successful cases in a variety of jurisdictions," the memo said, the best odds of conviction come with pornography that "includes bestiality, urination, defecation, as well as sadistic and masochistic behavior." No word on the universe of other kinks that helps make porn a multibillion-dollar industry.

Popular acceptance of hard-core pornography has come a long way, with some of its stars becoming mainstream celebrities and their products -- once confined to seedy shops and theaters -- being "purveyed" by upscale hotels and most home cable and satellite television systems. Explicit sexual entertainment is a profit center for companies including General Motors Corp. and Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. (the two major owners of DirecTV), Time Warner Inc. and the Sheraton, Hilton, Marriott and Hyatt hotel chains.

But Gonzales endorses the rationale of predecessor Meese: that adult pornography is a threat to families and children. Christian conservatives, long skeptical of Gonzales, greeted the pornography initiative with what the Family Research Council called "a growing sense of confidence in our new attorney general."

Congress began funding the obscenity initiative in fiscal 2005 and specified that the FBI must devote 10 agents to adult pornography. The bureau decided to create a dedicated squad only in the Washington Field Office. "All other field offices may investigate obscenity cases pursuant to this initiative if resources are available," the directive from headquarters said. "Field offices should not, however, divert resources from higher priority matters, such as public corruption."
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Read the rest at link above.


This falls under the "You've gotta be kidding me" category, if you ask me. Is this a serious problem? Anyone out there that has watched porn... Has it threatened your family or children?

I'm waiting for the government produced anti porn movie along the lines of Reefer Madness. Should be a real hit!
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 02:29 pm
Pandering to the right, again. But if they go after producers of porn, they should go after consumers as well. Let's get the membership lists off of all those websites.... Oops, sorry senator....
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squinney
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 02:35 pm
Here's another article dealing with the Florida branch:

Law.com Article

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...The focus will be on Internet crimes as well as on "peer-to-peer" distribution of pornography, according to the news release.

The task force, according to a Justice Department news release on May 5, will be "dedicated to the investigation and prosecution of the distributors of hard-core pornography that meets the test for obscenity, as defined by the United States Supreme Court."

In its 1973 landmark ruling on the subject, Miller v. California, the Supreme Court laid out a three-pronged test to separate obscenity from protected First Amendment speech. What the ruling said, essentially, was that if the material is offensive and prurient and has no artistic value, it is obscenity. The court left it up to local juries and communities to make the determination.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 02:35 pm
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This falls under the "You've gotta be kidding me" category, if you ask me. Is this a serious problem? Anyone out there that has watched porn... Has it threatened your family or children?



Squinny, you might not want to ask that question...after all, so many women have had their entire lives ruined because of it, remember? Pron (sorry, had to reminisce for those of you who remember) is the devil and is the ruiner or all relationships it enters.
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squinney
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 02:44 pm
Lots of woman have had their entire lives ruined by alcohol, cigarettes, breast implants and birth control, too. Do we need to outlaw those things? Divert some agents to special task forces on fighting Breast Implants, maybe?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 03:01 pm
squinney wrote:
Lots of woman have had their entire lives ruined by alcohol, cigarettes, breast implants and birth control, too. Do we need to outlaw those things? Divert some agents to special task forces on fighting Breast Implants, maybe?


Yes. :wink:

(I can't believe that more people have come running and screaming into this thread....the "porn" in the title alone is the drawing factor....)
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 03:04 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
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This falls under the "You've gotta be kidding me" category, if you ask me. Is this a serious problem? Anyone out there that has watched porn... Has it threatened your family or children?



Squinny, you might not want to ask that question...after all, so many women have had their entire lives ruined because of it, remember? Pron (sorry, had to reminisce for those of you who remember) is the devil and is the ruiner or all relationships it enters.


There wouldn't be any porn if women weren't whoring themselves to star in it... physician heal thyself....
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 03:11 pm
It just so happens I am being laid off (no pun intended) and am looking for a new job...

(I am waiting for a call from Bush about this SC vacancy, but if that doesn't come through, this might be the ticket.)
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 03:16 pm
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
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This falls under the "You've gotta be kidding me" category, if you ask me. Is this a serious problem? Anyone out there that has watched porn... Has it threatened your family or children?



Squinny, you might not want to ask that question...after all, so many women have had their entire lives ruined because of it, remember? Pron (sorry, had to reminisce for those of you who remember) is the devil and is the ruiner or all relationships it enters.


There wouldn't be any porn if women weren't whoring themselves to star in it... physician heal thyself....


I hope you don't think I was being serious in my post....
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 03:22 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
Quote:
This falls under the "You've gotta be kidding me" category, if you ask me. Is this a serious problem? Anyone out there that has watched porn... Has it threatened your family or children?



Squinny, you might not want to ask that question...after all, so many women have had their entire lives ruined because of it, remember? Pron (sorry, had to reminisce for those of you who remember) is the devil and is the ruiner or all relationships it enters.


There wouldn't be any porn if women weren't whoring themselves to star in it... physician heal thyself....


I hope you don't think I was being serious in my post....


just playing along sweetie.... keeping the conversation lively :wink:
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 03:25 pm
I think it is a well known fact that porn causes crime. Lets look at the evidence.

In the 1980s Edwin Meese chaired commission that looked at a LOT of porn.
Edwin Meese was then investigated for influence peddling and shady business deals.

Edwin Meese once said "if a person is innocent of a crime, then he is not a suspect."

Isn't it obvious, all that porn caused Meese to commit a crime.

Let's not forget that James Dobson also spent a lot of time looking at porn while on that commission. Obviously he is a criminal too. Porn BAD. It causes people to commit crimes from just looking at it for 6 months day after day.
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colorbook
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 03:25 pm
Sounds to me as if the government wants to get their hands into the pockets of those who are making millions marketing pornÂ…lots of money is being made here and our government doesn't want to miss out on it.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 03:27 pm
colorbook wrote:
Sounds to me as if the government wants to get their hands into the pockets of those who are making millions marketing pornÂ…lots of money is being made here and our government doesn't want to miss out on it.


But they don't want to tax the oil industry..


Maybe they need to use more petroleum products in porn videos... Someone get slappy and BVT working on that..
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 03:29 pm
Why do we encourage our young men to join the army and learn to blow women's brains out... but arrest and imprison them for looking at someone
f**king women's brains out?
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colorbook
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 03:33 pm
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The new squad will divert eight agents, a supervisor and assorted support staff to gather evidence against "manufacturers and purveyors" of pornography -- not the kind exploiting children, but the kind that depicts, and is marketed to, consenting adults.


...not the kind exploiting children?
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 04:11 pm
Bad news, ebrown, but I've a feeling you'll turn up something just as good.
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squinney
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 05:47 pm
I don't know. Sounds like a pretty cool job...

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"Obscenity: For the first time in 10 years, the U.S. government is spending millions to file charges across the country".
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Sun National Staff
WASHINGTON -- Lam Nguyen's job is to sit for hours in a chilly, quiet room devoid of any color but gray and look at pornography. This job, which Nguyen does earnestly from 9 to 5, surrounded by a half-dozen other "computer forensic specialists" like him, has become the focal point of the Justice Department's operation to rid the world of porn.
In this field office in Washington, 32 prosecutors, investigators and a handful of FBI agents are spending millions of dollars to bring anti-obscenity cases to courthouses across the country for the first time in 10 years. Nothing is off limits, they warn, even soft-core cable programs such as HBO's long-running Real Sex or the adult movies widely offered in rooms of major hotel chains.

Department officials say they will send "ripples" through an industry that has proliferated on the Internet and grown into an estimated $10 billion-a-year colossus profiting Fortune 500 corporations such as Comcast, which offers hard-core movies on a pay-per-view channel.


War On Porn Alert
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2005 06:35 pm
i thank god that our government has eliminated every other bad thing, person, illness, disease, probability, likelyhood, eventuality, and whatnot.

now they can concentrate on the real root of all evil.

wonders, i...... will they be starting with an indictment of rupert "the saucy aussie" murdoch ?
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squinney
 
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Reply Thu 22 Sep, 2005 04:46 am
Murdochs likely safe. I wouldn't worry too much about him and his future.

I doubt it's about taxes, either. The government still gets taxes off of sales. Adult places aren't immune from taxes.

No, it's just a blight on the beautiful landscape of the Christian country in which we live and it MUST be cleaned up. Maybe some Superfund money needs to be diverted to the Porn Squad. This is much more important than oil spill or chemical clean-up.
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