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Rambling on... Why are you still travelling to the US? Canada, UK, EURO

 
 
Ceili
 
Reply Mon 12 May, 2025 03:06 am
This is a bit of a rant, walk away if you don't want to read a book. I'm angry. I'm angry for the rest of the world, and I'm angry for sane Americans. I'm so sorry so many morons didn't vote, and too many that did, did it to inflict pain. Ye gods.

So, today, day 1785, Trump and the Fox government smeared on your honourable-ish country again. They dropped a doozy. What was that?
Glad you asked. Smile
They want to strip people of the right to Habeas Corpus.
Basically once you're in jail, there is no way to fight for your liberty, your freedom.
You won't have the right.
Freedom.
What freedom?
There so much freedom. So many choices to consume, to buy, to replace. TO SPEND. So many freakin' choices.
Well, not if you have a uterus. Yeah.. so um where were we. Yes. Freedom. So much freedom.
Unless... If your arrested with no due process, or even if you did get some but then you went to court and well, let's say it didn't go as planned, because well, you live in a different era now, and due process doesn't mean what it used to mean, you'll have no avenues to legally fight your way out. Jailed indefinitely.
See..
The USA is broke. They owe more than they can pay.
They took all your tax money, and now they don't want to give any of it back in services etc. They are greedy. They can't keep it if the government works, or if they have to pay for you or your health or education, or roadways, food, signed contracts, employee wages, pensions, or well just about anything. Vets? They served, what good are they now? Captain bone-spur doesn't respect your service, just a big fat military parade.
You're broke. The first Trump era taxes hurt your country.
The Dems didn't have the balls to reinstate them, but at least they didn't **** with the world economies and left you in pretty good shape employment wise etc. You had a functioning federal government that hadn't grown in decades.
And they understood that jails make money, (like I said, honourable-ish) but even they weren't this diabolical.
See..
Because your President didn't understand trade or taxes, or government, they went super lazy and decided to tariff the **** out of everything and then gave a bunch of college kids and another spoiled brat the ammo to destroy the place..
And you, the dying dregs of the middle class get to pay for it all, until you can't. But help is on the way, see once they've destroy your class, they have a replacement.

Years ago, the United States government cut manufacturing.. to the bone, in favour of sky high profits and job cuts. But they never banked on the other countries taking all those pennies and turning them into gold, becoming the competition.
What?
They did notsee that coming...
The US isn't the global economy. It's Huge. Sure, but hardly the boss. Anymore.
And if the US didn't have California, yeeesh - it would be big but probably shrinking faster then most of the western economies - But Cali generates so much business throughout the States, it keeps ya'll afloat, and yet all those red states can't admit it. Say it with me people. California floats your boat.
Yep, Cali pays most of all the red states bills when they need a little scratch, at this point though, it doesn't matter. Trumps got his hand in the pot now, and he doesn't like to share. So now Cali get to pay and will get nothing in return. They are not loyal!!
Anywho, A wrench has been thrown. Maybe enough to cause a ripple. And well... nothin' worse than a plan that doesn't go to... wait a second, so much of this was the cause of a greedy old dude who wants to be king and project 2025. I guess we all should have read it, even though the snake in chief said it wasn't going to happen. lol so many lies.
But see, they didn't think that their newly minted competition and all the rest would walk away, they thought we'd be like your spineless repugs and do whatever trump said, but we have options now.
I digress, again..
The BRIC is now the world's biggest economy, it outshines the entire G7.
And they have growing middle classes, outpacing the west's downfall. They've curtailed some of the greed inherit in capitalism and wholly crappolla invested back into the infrastructure and people. Not Mars. Huh!
It's almost as if a stable or growing middle class and not the billionaire class is good for your economy. Whodathunk.
See once the gov. and the brightest minds, envisioned a world where you didn't get your hands dirty, you were going to do the high end service jobs, like controlling the stock market, or the computer industry. They never considered that unless you kept up with infrastructure, and educational standards, that expertise was bound to follow the talent, not the other way around, especially as the industry because more mobile.
Instead, you saddled your best and brightest with enormous debts... Student loans they will never pay off. Gave them intern jobs that don't pay, expensive shrinking housing/dreams, failing utility infrastructure, escalating food costs, and so on while all the bankers get dividends, in a system that just keeps giving and taking and giving and taking, and taking, and taking, and taking.
And now you're scaring brown or people with funny accents away. They are engineers, scientists, doctors, brilliant minds with great educations, but they are afraid of a knock on the door or getting pulled over by Rambo and ending up in a nightmare, in a jail, in limbo with a metallic blanket and no connection to the outside.
It's ok, the rest of the world is welcoming them if they can get out in time.

You're broke because you have the highest amount of billionaires in the world and they pay no tax, nothing. These people have raped your country, they have siphoned off all the riches and given nothing back.
Aside from 11 minute "space" trips, what has Amazon done? built a hospital, a university, Carnegie libraries - nope, just killed the bookstore.
I'd imagine Bezos felt a little of that terror he wants his employees to feel. He's done nothing but capitulate and kiss the ring of the guy who just threw his whole Amazon cheap chinese ****, high profit margin business model for a loop. And yet he still didn't publish the tariff truth. The bully's got to him again.
The ex-wife doesn't count though, she's doing her part. She knows billionairism is baaaad.
California has the 4th largest economy in the world but has more renters than home owners. They have the biggest economy in the US but the 4th highest average wages in the nation. Imagine that, the average person hasn't seen the benefits, cause the rich do it all, or so it seems.
The middle class is dead.
Americans voted in the Republicans, the traditional "cut taxes" party - but for whom? Trump's Tariffs just gave YOU the largest tax increase in the history of the country.
And yet they are still looking to give the uber rich even more tax cuts.
And have those tax cuts ever trickled down?
Do you have high speed rail/transit, affordable housing? the best education - do your teachers make enough? Health care universal? medicine affordable? Do you feel safe in your neighbourhood? Do you get a vacation? Free internet? Dental? Pensions? maternal/parental leave? What has your nation done to alleviate homelessness? Disparity?
Workers safety rules are about to be turfed. Ah the good ol' MAGA days when people lost eyes and limbs, and fell off buildings/bridges when working. Just in time for no benefits, OSHA going, going, going, gone.
All these regulations hurt the billionaire class. They can't make money if they have to worry about stupid things like rules or safety.
You don't get much. But...
You get to buy bombs, jails, and billionaires.
Ok, there are some rules.
No bombs for Ukraine to defend against Trump's crush and you get to take their minerals for the privilige of giving them out of date munition for the past few years and not much else but threats.
Bombs for Israelis to bomb babies in Gaza and then steal their country, minerals and create refugees if any of them survive starvation or more bombs. Is the US inviting them in because they feel guilty for funding this massacre?
No, but they have created a back door for white south africaans fleeing the lack of apartheid all the while exiling true refugees from the US. Isn't it ironic, don't you think?
You get to buy bombs, jails and billionaires, but you don't get a return on the dollar. You get inflation. You get inflated prices. You get taxed.
They just denied Arkansas disaster relief after a series of monster tornados ripped the state apart. Arkansas is full of true believers, the majority swayed toward Maga. Sanders was his lying mouth piece for years before being anointed governor and he denied her the help, he denied them federal disaster relief. He denied them.
The asked for help. He said no.
Let that sink in.
He already has their votes, he doesn't need anything from them. They are losers for living in tornado alley.
He blamed the money problems on the world. He blamed us for the system you set up. The system that took all the manufacturing elsewhere, set up the service industry that we all use, but then created AI.
Awesome.
There go even more jobs.

So he whined, he pouted. Life was so unfair. Old contracts he art of the deal(t), were suddenly unfair, and someone who has never known anything but privilege had a temper tantrum. It wasn't enough. We didn't buy your stuff, you bought too much of ours. Never specifying what items he selectively chose to match his stats.

He ignored the amount we spent on banking, tourism and entertainment, amazon, and all the American franchises ect. The data was skewed, and you believed him.
And then those damn penguins were taking advantage too.
The shame.
The 'do your research' crowd took his lying word for it.
You punished us, insulted us, threatened us.
Gulf of ******* America. Jesus H Christ you lot are desperate. Two ******* continents aren't good enough?
Now most of us don't come to the US anymore... We don't trust you.
Your biggest lender, Japan is nervous, they just said no more money for you.
Too much crazy and they pulled the plug..
But he's going to bring manufacturing back.
He's going to make it competitive.

So, back to habeas corpus, once you're in jail, you're in. But is that it?
In a few weeks/months, once he can buy or dismiss the courts and spineless politicians ignore or cheer him on, and in homage to N. Korea, a country your great grandfathers fought and were wounded in, a new bill/law will come down the greasy pike. Your family will inherit a generational debt to pay for your 'crimes'. And what do you imagine those crimes could be? What do you think the worst crime will be?
Do you think perhaps it might be satire? Blasphemy? SNL in leg chains?
So no due process, no habeas corpus, just a bill, payable to whatever corporation/s owns the "correction facility".
And if you think a military hammer or a tylenol in a hospital is expensive, wait until you get the bill from El Salvador, courtesy of Black Rock.
But can someone explain why Canadian (or any other) visitors to the US hasn't dropped below, I dunno, 50%? Border crossings are only down by 30%?? WTF I get that trucking is still a thing, but it can't account for it all.
The US is no longer the land of the free. So many Americans seem puzzled why we aren't chomping at the bit to become American (partial) citizens. (they've yet to give PR, Guam and V.I's the full vote, or statehood).
Cities and states might be begging us to come back, but we still have to cross the "imaginary border" (imagine a Mexican declaring the same thing about their northern border). We still have to deal with border crossing guards and ICE, and random MAGA voters who believe the latest propaganda.
- That we live off your teat.
- That your allies are now your enemy,
- cause surprise, y'all love Russia now.
Your new system has no issue throwing us in detention centres for paperwork issues or less (and by us - I mean anyone who is not a US citizen, white, christian zionist, red hat - you get the drift).
Every day they get closer to the end goal, and once scrapping habeas corpus is enacted, they will have effectively created a slave class again, slavery that pays for itself, slavery that MAKES A PROFIT - bringing manufacturing back and still be able to compete, what a concept... and there may be no legal way to fight your way out of Alcatraz.
So why are you still going to the US?
You could be disappeared. Seriously, Why?
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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2025 04:11 am
Well said.

The billionaire class worked assiduously behind the scene for years. They funded right-wing law schools, they teamed up with right-wing evangelicals to win elections, they paid for research which questioned the dangers of carbon pollution and climate change, and they attacked public spending and the taxes necessary to fund it. And, sure enough, they succeeded in convincing people that the "government" could not be trusted and successfully encouraged the public to vote against its own best interests. They filled the justice system with their hand-picked legal scholars and let states create safe seats for conservative politicians with blatant gerrymandering. They effectively bought the political system and now expect it to run for their own exclusive benefit.
Mame
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2025 08:47 am
@hightor,
The beginning of the downfall.
Ceili
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2025 09:19 am
@Mame,
The end of the empire.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2025 09:25 am
I don't know of any non US members of A2K who are planning to visit America.

I'm certainly not.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2025 03:40 pm
Dang! I was looking forward to meeting some of you, especially Mame, who I've met before.
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jespah
 
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Reply Mon 12 May, 2025 04:00 pm
Agreed to 99.9%. Please don't lump Zionists into this mess. Trump has zero interest in doing anything about antisemitism. We're just convenient human shields so he can get his way.
Ceili
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2025 10:16 am
@jespah,
I'm not now, nor have I ever been anti-semetic.
I resent the implication.
Zionism is a political movement, like maga.
Zionism is a big part of this mess. Don't for a minute think that the white supremacists in the US aren't watching and salivating over the idea that they can do the same and "cleanse" their states or new "sanctuary cities" of anything they deem undesirable or nonhuman, you know - when people use buzz words like illegals, humanity is in trouble.
They are even talking about tech zionism, in places like San Fran, keeping the poors and the morons out... But we all know what the second gen brings... lol
And now that Israel has gotten away with some of the worst crimes against humanity, we have that greedy ****** looking at Panama, Greenland and Canada, and maybe he'll do the same to us, because he doesn't respect the 'imaginary' border.
Zionism is a political poison and it's spreading. It's not about Jews, it's about a greedy political system that sees no value in humans, unless they are of a chosen group, and is only interested in how much more it can get - land, minerals, etc.
The world will be divided by region, like in 1984.
Israel will go after Lebanon, Jordan and Syria, the Levant. At some point they will meet an enemy that is their match (not besieged women and children) and then, Israel will be in trouble, but until then, they've given a monster full control.
Russia - Ukraine, Poland, Finland and so on... Another greedy monster.
China - Taiwan, Singapore, maybe one day, they'll take back Mongolia or parts of Africa.
Nothing but chaos and misery because greed is good, right?
They all want to be dictators, they all want a legacy at the expense of decency and humanity. And they all have people who won't see the problem in their devious plans. People who will say that they are the victims when they are standing on the necks of others.
People that will look past 50,000 dead, or starving 2 million people and will justify it.
It's the end game that matters.
Some may have to suffer.
C'est la vie.

Zionism is poison.

jespah
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2025 11:54 am
@Ceili,
I am not going to argue with you about my people's right to our indigenous homeland. Not responding further.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2025 01:25 pm
@izzythepush,
Having said that, not going to America isn't as big a deal for us as for Canadians.

Flights to America are expensive, all of Europe and North Africa is far more accessible.

What puts me off visiting the USA is all the guns, shootings and spurious legal decisions over the likes of Kyle Rittenberg, accompanied by a trigger happy police force.

It was frightening enough before Trump.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2025 02:48 pm
@izzythepush,
Just for perspective, I've never seen or heard a shot fired outside of ranges and a couple of places in a local bit of BLM canyon. Maybe it's because I live in New Mexico, but my experience goes back 81 years.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2025 03:13 pm
@roger,
Yet you feel the need to carry a gun.
Mame
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2025 06:53 pm
@izzythepush,
He does??? I would never have thought that, Roger being so mild and pleasant.

I don't see much positive in the US' future. What I see is isolationism from the rest of the world and civil strife/war in the US. Somebody needs to wrest control from him and his sycophants.

Interested to see what sane Reps and the Dems will do. Also curious as to how much the people revolt. It's a reality tv show, sadly.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2025 09:41 pm
@Mame,
You're right. I did, back when I lived in Denver, but that was several decades ago.
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hightor
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2025 04:54 am
@Ceili,
Quote:
Zionism is poison.

Any combination of religion, ethnicity, and nationalism has the potential to be exploited by people for purely political ends and I think it's inaccurate, simplistic, and unfair to indict "Zionism" in general rather than specifying the parties which are using the term to justify militaristic or inhumane behavior. The original Zionist vision did not have to unfold the unfortunate way it has – this is a dynamic which has played out again and again on the world stage; constructive ideals and aspirations are regularly hijacked by demagogues and mixed into a poisonous cocktail for which we seem to thirst. This appetite is one of the more disappointing failures of our civilization and our species.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2025 05:00 am
@hightor,
Zionism and jihad are two words that have numerous interpretations, reinterpretations and misinterpretations.

What they mean very much depends on who is using them.

This is a BBC story about an encounter with a sanctioned settler.

Quote:
Dust was rising on the track. It hung in the hot midday air as the white jeep came towards us. The driver was less than a minute away.

"I think it's Moshe Sharvit," said Gil Alexander, 72, a devout religious Jew who tries to protect Palestinian shepherds from intimidation by Jewish settlers.

Over the last year we've been documenting his work with shepherds in the northern Jordan Valley, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

The man approaching us was placed under sanctions by Britain and the EU last year after they said he had used "physical aggression, threatened families at gunpoint, and destroyed property as part of a targeted and calculated effort to displace Palestinian communities".


Sharvit is the criminal and the bigot, Alexander is the peace activist who wants to live amicably with the Palestinians.

Quote:
Settlement expansion is anathema to Gil Alexander. He considers himself a Zionist, but within the existing borders of Israel.

These are the frontiers that existed before it seized the West Bank in the 1967 Middle East war.

He is part of a network called the Jordan Valley Activists – Moshe Sharvit calls them "anarchists" - offering solidarity, and working for peaceful co-existence with the Palestinians.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8d1j3v2y3mo

The 'Zionism' displayed by Sharvit is toxic, but that by Alexander is anything but.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2025 08:21 am
@hightor,
At some point in history, the confederate flag was probably held up by decent people. But now it's a symbol of hate.
Zionism may have started all Kumbaya like, but it's certainly not now.
Anyone can take an idea and expand on it. Perception is everything and a huge number of people see it as the wholesale destruction of a semitic people with the very real threat that it will grow and bring more victims with it. And like I said, and many others have noticed, it's growing. It's one thing to want to protect your culture, it's another to erase an entire group to ensure it happens. And the Americans love the idea, or at least the MAGA crowd. It will happen in the US. I'm guessing once Israel is whole, they'll go after Jews too. They have helped fulfill the Bible's end of times prophecy and now Jesus should be coming home. So they'll want them gone so they can have their lily white land. Probably wont happen in my life time, but then I didn't see the US jumping into fascism the quickly either.
Then again, maybe the native population will rise and demand their land back. Maybe the Mexicans will rise up and go full nuclear on Texas and California, I mean it was theirs first. Fair is fair. Greed is good.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2025 09:13 am
@Ceili,
The problem is that when you blame 'Zionism' for the behaviour of the IDF you can be dismissed as antisemitic.

Instead of looking at the genocidal acts of the IDF we're discussing your lazy use of terminology.

Instead of holding Israel and its apologists to account you're giving them a get out clause.

And when you double down on your use of vernacular you end up alienating the very people you should be reaching out to.

It's counterproductive.
Ceili
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2025 01:54 pm
@izzythepush,
You are so right.
Zionism, is a buzzword right now, that everyone now understands to mean: take land and kill/cleanse all the indigenous people for your own purposes, but I should be less LAZY and use the old fashioned term - British Imperialism.
The Brits caused so much of the absolute bullshit in this world, from banking to colonialism.
It was British racism against Jews that helped create a lot of the mess in the middle east they're experiencing today.
Shocking. Right?
Nah, even Shakespeare highlighted it.
So lets go big picture shall we.
I'm reading a book right now about how everything can be traced back to Tuberculosis. How for most of humanity, even during wars and plagues, the biggest influence and killer of Human Beings is/was/and apparently, now that Trump cut drug aid to the most needy (in 'shithole countries'), it forever shall be TB. Because so many people were cut off from life saving medication mid stream in the last few months - it takes several months and treatments to be cured, foreign scientists - no Americans left to consult - think this will push TB to become drug resistant much, more quickly.
Look how much winning hate gets you!
Trump wrote a strongly worded letter, so I'm sure drug prices for new strains will be affordable.
In a similar fashion, almost all modern problems, political - religious strife, can be tied to the English. Not the British so much, as the Welsh, Irish and Scottish were also victimized, plundered, and were mostly dragged into your continuous greedy bullshit, and are now sadly smeared with the same brush.
There must be something in English water to have compelled your ruling class to be some of the biggest asswipes in history.
They brought classism and bigotry and so much sorrow almost everywhere they went.
They were so hateful, that when Lord Rothschild brought you a plan to take Palestine, you were only to happy to rid yourself of a problem as quickly as possible.
The Crown, The Lords, the uppercrust loved when they got a simple solution to their problems, for example when they...
Bought out the slave traders, gave "the new money" the bald Scottish mountains (hunting grounds) after burning the forests, banning the clans and deporting the Scottish to Irish Plantations, to the Appalachians and Canada and so on.
And then they fanned a famine to starve millions and deport the Irish problem.
Got to love when a plan comes together...eh?
And they certainly did not want to rescue a bunch of Jews, or give them a home after the Nazis, so....
Balfour.
******* Balfour. And Bob - his stupid uncle.
Perhaps you should read the Zionist playbook.
They did. That's why they approved it.
It took a lot of it's ideas from the Brits/or again, specifically, the English/German crown/gov.
They were a creative bunch.
Got to give them props for that.
Full transparency, me dad was English. We can trace ourselves back to the doomsday book.
The police force in Israel... Huh!? I had no idea they were running the country, I though they were conscripted, I thought they were the only democracy in the middle east? Non? .
The IDF is much the same as the RUC - remember them? Created to keep the Irish/Catholics down. The Canadian RCMP based themselves and their "services" on the RUC. Even wore similar red dress uniforms. Canada's first PM was a Brit and he used the RCMP to keep our Native population down, to take care of the "Indian Problem" South Africa then based their apartheid system on Canada's residential schools, that was based on the plantation system the Brits set up in Ireland, 600+ years ago. Still going strong, I might add.
And then Israel copied them.
And then Putin said "what have we got to lose?'.
See big picture.
On Counter-productivity ...
Most of the people in the Middle East are semitic.
They all speak semitic languages, thus the name.
I don't have a problem with languages.
AND/OR
Let me get something very clear, I don't have a problem with Jews living in Israel. I know many Israelis are disgusted by the bloodshed, and want peace. I think they, as a nation, should have bought the property, not stolen it and abused an entire nation to get it, Ya know, been good neighbours, not murderous exclusionists. Maybe we could be living in a safer world, but we are where we are. And I don't blame all the people for their government, any more than I blame all Americans for Trump. The sane are victims too.
But for god sake, they could stop the ******* bombing of babies any day now, and I dunno, negotiate this unfortunate population a safe passage to somewhere else, and maybe throw them a bone, they are starving... however that doesn't serve the ruling classes' end goal, now does it?
We don't need more people, at least of brown muslim type persuasions. A few more white babies sure, but refugees? Are you mad? Israel only followed what you did. And god knows The English advance parties like Cook were charming sorts pleasantly expanding the empire with tea and crumpets alone. We all know stealing at a national level is infinitely better than sharing right? For the glory of crown and king!!!
My mother's family's ancestral home is now part of Prince Harry's Baron of Kilkeel holdings. A splendid wedding gift. Wink
We were kicked out and up to the hills to make way for people who 300 years later, still call themselves British and march in silly hats to commemorate a war they had no part in.
We live in a weird world.
And because of Imperialism, I live in a land stolen by colonizers, in my families case, I guess the Brits won. A few less generations to worry about. We are losing our history, our language, our family, our myths, our stories, but we have hockey, football and baseball. Yay us!!
And the people who lived here for time immemorial? Who cares. right?
They're only lucky we didn't have 2000 lbs bombs, etc.
Now if you really want to know who's pulling the strings in the US, look into Opes Dei. Yup. A freaky, fascist group of Catholics. (The Pope is not Opes Dei. (just so ya know, there are factions in every organization)) They are using the dumb evangelical Christians to do their bidding, to do the dirty work. Abortion rules, women's bodies and voting rights, squashing trans and gay rights, dumbing down the educational system so people don't start questioning things and so on, just look at what is happening. Now no habeas corpus.... There are no limits to the terrible these groups will stoop to.
Believe it or not, they want a KING. On American land.
Thy KINGdom come, thy will be done...
And so on, and so on.
The same people who attend parades and whistle yanky, doodle, dandy don't care if the king is a puppet for a while, they know baby Jesus will eventually come, (or is probably in a mental institute). .
Israel is Key though.
Christians aren't usually this nice/generous.. They don't normally care about other religions, they're all gunna burn. Look how badly they treat other Christians - Haitians, Mexicans, Guatemalans, Palestinians, Venezuelans.. Deporting and jailing them for tattoos.
And then insisting other neighbouring countries should take the Palestinians in, cause you know, they're Muslim. The irony.
They don't really give a **** about Israelis, they care about their end of times prophesy.
Israel hasn't figured it out yet. Or maybe they have and thus the need to finish the job at hand.
Once Israel is whole according to Christian US prophesy - not Israeli expansion desires, complete with beach front properties in Gaza - to be renamed soon, and the west bank is erased, what's left, maybe the Druze's territory?
And once the Gaza oil reserves are under control by the US (and Israel for the meantime), (don't think for a moment though that Zalensky's deal - arms for minerals won't be repeated) the US will let Israel play for a while, Israelis will end up paying for their own bombs and will mess up the Middle East for a bit. The Saudis/Iran wont let them have it though.
Then its a holy war.
And the US will go all isolationist again.
But they'll be dragged into it, just like in WWII. Late.
Atheists be damned. They'll come for us too ya know. We can't be 'saved'. lol
Unless you're Chinese. And then you'll sit back, wait for the rest of us to destroy ourselves, and then it'll be all Art of War. JD Vance called them peasants and nobody forgets. Omerta.
The plan is tech bro, billionaire, sanctuary domed cities will be safe zones, they've all ready started acquiring lands and lawsuits, forcing people out of their farms so that massive gated communities can be erected. JD Vance sits on the board of directors. Flannery Associates, look it up.
And the great unwashed will slowly be turned into slaves. What's left of us..
So how about we just call it Imperialism, because you guys are a failing empire too. Wouldn't want my point to be misconstrued as lazy or counterproductive by using word that might offend. Cause even you didn't come up with this.
It was probably some Roman Caesar who laid out the whole plan all along.
Happy?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2025 03:34 pm
@Ceili,
What's clear is you really don't give a **** about Palestinians.

If you did you wouldn't lash out at everyone who doesn't toe the line.

You've not mentioned Palestinians before today.

They're just a useful tool for your nastiness.

How soon you revert to Anglophobia. It's a lot easier than dealing with points made, like paragraphs, bit too tricky.

And you're the white settler living in other's lands, a true beneficiary of British Imperialism.

You're no different from Trumpies, riven by spite and malice, trying to claim the moral highground, full of bullshit and hypocrisy.

And you don't have any understanding of Shakespeare at all.

There weren't any Jewish people living in England at the time he wrote, not until Cromwell.

You're proof a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
 

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