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The 47th President and the Post-Biden World

 
 
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2025 11:18 am
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 12:53 am
America's insane gun laws coupled with a nazi government are to blame.

Couldn't happen over here.

Charlie Burk can advocate for gun ownership in Hell.

There are so many really funny Kirk memes.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 12:54 am
@izzythepush,
Latest : Charlie Kirk loses gun debate.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 01:08 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

America's insane gun laws coupled with a nazi government are to blame.



And that's the truth.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to take credit for its death, something to be proud of.

Slobbering Don is more senile than ever.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 01:46 am
The world's oldest democracy now needs a president who speaks not only for his supporters, but for all Americans.
Otherwise, there is a growing danger that the whole country will soon be in flames.

In a functioning democratic society, people can openly express their political opinions without running the risk of being killed for it.
In a functioning democratic society, however, individual perpetrators are also convicted and punished for their crimes – and entire population groups or political camps are not held collectively responsible.

In both cases, however, heavily armed American society has become dangerously dysfunctional.
In my opinion, there is no longer a non-partisan moral authority.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 02:07 am
Quote:
Jezebel Adds Editor’s Note to Article About Hiring ‘Witches to Curse Charlie Kirk’ Published Two Days Before He Was Assassinated

Two days ago, feminist news and opinion site Jezebel ran a story with the headline, “We Paid Some Etsy Witches to Curse Charlie Kirk.” After Kirk, a prominent MAGA influencer, was shot and killed Wednesday while speaking at an event at a Utah university, Jezebel added a note at the top of the article condemning the shooting.

The “Editor’s Note” appended to the top of the article reads: “This story was published on September 8. Jezebel condemns the shooting of Charlie Kirk in the strongest possible terms. We do not endorse, encourage, or excuse political violence of any kind.” The article also was updated since its original publication to change the byline to “By Jezebel.”


https://variety.com/2025/digital/news/jezebel-charlie-kirk-editors-note-witches-curse-1236514904/<br />

Who'd a thunk?

Etsy witches, the real deal.

Let's hope they do a roaring trade.
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 03:20 am
Trump condemns political violence by the left...as if the recent assassinations and attempted assassinations of the Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota never happened. I don't think he as much as mentioned it at the time. Voices from the right are already calling for "retribution". Four hundred million guns owned in this pitiful excuse for a civilized society...gee, how did this happen?

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Last night, Polish forces shot down 19 Russian drones that invaded Poland’s airspace during a massive Russian air attack on Ukraine. Poland is a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), and the Polish operation was backed by NATO member forces. Today, Poland officially activated Article 4 of the North Atlantic Treaty, which triggers a consultation whenever “the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the Parties is threatened.”

German chancellor Friedrich Merz called the Russian breach of Polish airspace a “reckless and aggressive act” that fit a broader pattern of Russian provocations against NATO’s eastern edge.

Although the United States under President Donald J. Trump has pulled back from its steadfast commitment to NATO, the U.S. was instrumental in the creation of the organization in 1949. Leaders wanted to establish a defensive alliance that could stand against Soviet aggression and that would reinforce rules to prevent countries from using violence against other countries. Such an order, based in rules rather than violence, would make it harder to start wars.

NATO guaranteed collective security because all of the member states agreed to defend each other against an attack by a third party. In 1949, when he signed the treaty, President Harry Truman called the pact a positive influence for peace. With NATO, he said, “we hope to create a shield against aggression and the fear of aggression—a bulwark which will permit us to get on with the real business of government and society, the business of achieving a fuller and happier life for all our citizens.”

The experience of the United States “in creating one nation out of…the peoples of many lands” proved that this idea could work, Truman said. “This method of organizing diverse peoples and cultures is in direct contrast to the method of the police state, which attempts to achieve unity by imposing the same beliefs and the same rule of force on everyone.”

The NATO countries did not believe that war was inevitable, Truman said. “Men with courage and vision can still determine their own destiny. They can choose slavery or freedom—war or peace. I have no doubt which they will choose…. If there is anything certain today, if there is anything inevitable in the future, it is the will of the people of the world for freedom and for peace.”

The drone incursions into a NATO country are just the latest escalation from Russia’s president Vladimir Putin after his meeting with Trump in Alaska on August 15. Poland’s prime minister Donald Tusk told the Polish parliament: “I have no reason to claim we’re on the brink of war, but a line has been crossed. This situation brings us the closest we have been to open conflict since World War II.”

At 11:09 this morning, Trump responded to the attack by posting on social media: “What’s with Russia violating Poland’s airspace with drones? Here we go!”

This afternoon at an outdoor event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, a gunman shot and killed 31-year-old Charlie Kirk, a right-wing activist and founder of Turning Point USA, which pushes for right-wing politics on high school, college, and university campuses. The killing appears to have been targeted. A manhunt is underway for the killer.

Although nothing more is currently known about the event, President Trump in an address from the Oval Office blamed “the radical left” for the shooting and vowed that his administration “will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity, and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials and everyone else who brings order to our country.”

Trump listed incidents of what he called “radical left political violence.” As The Guardian noted, absent from his list was violence against Democrats, including the murder in June of a Minnesota state lawmaker and her husband by a man who had a hit list of 45 Democratic elected officials.

Less than an hour after the Kirk shooting, during the third week of school, a shooter at Evergreen High School in Colorado wounded two students—one critically—before dying of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Gun violence had impacted the life of the grandfather of two boys at the school. In 2021, Mike Webb’s ex-wife Xiaojie Tan was killed in the spa shootings in the Atlanta area and today he told CNN’s Emma Tucker that a school shooting was his “greatest fear realized.” Webb said he had spoken with one of the boys, who was shaken by the events at his school. “I told him none of us should have to go through this. I said this is the world we live in and thank God you guys are OK.”

hcr
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 03:53 am
@hightor,
It's not the "world you live in," it's the country you live in.

**** like that doesn't happen over here.
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 04:18 am
@izzythepush,
Well, I totally agree. That's why I characterized the USA as "this pitiful excuse for a civilized society."

Oddly enough though, the USA didn't make this list of the "most violent countries". But we're trying.




izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 04:21 am
@hightor,
I was responding to your quotation.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 04:34 am
More hypocrisy from Nazi vermin.

Quote:
Utah Republican senator faces backlash over post condemning Kirk’s killing
Only months ago, Mike Lee had posted disparaging tweets after Democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband were fatally shot

The official X account of Mike Lee, a Republican US senator, drew backlash after quickly condemning Wednesday’s killing of influential conservative activist Charlie Kirk in Utah – less than three months from when the politician initially responded to the shootings of two Minnesota Democratic lawmakers by boosting misinformation about that case.

A post from Lee, who joined the Senate in 2011, denounced Kirk’s murder as “a cowardly act of violence” while hailing the Turning Point USA executive director as an “American patriot” and “inspiration to countless young people”. His post also solicited prayers for the 31-year-old Kirk’s widow, Erika, and their children.

“The terrorists will not win,” Lee said shortly after Kirk’s death while speaking at an outdoors gathering on the campus of Utah Valley University had been confirmed. “Charlie will.”

While some of the platform’s users replied positively to the post, many others immediately alluded to how Lee focused on advancing conspiracy theories in the aftermath of the 14 June shootings that killed Minnesota’s house speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, while wounding state senator John Hoffman – her fellow Democrat – as well as his wife, Yvette.

“This is what happens,” Lee wrote in an X post, “When Marxists don’t get their way.” Attached to the post was a picture of the suspect charged in the shooting, Vance Boelter, evidently wearing a latex face mask.

There was no evidence Boelter is a Marxist. Friends have told local media he was right-leaning. And while Minnesota voters don’t list party affiliation, Boelter was registered as a Republican in Oklahoma in 2004.

Separately, under another picture of Boelter, Lee wrote, “Nightmare on Waltz Street,” which appeared to be a reference to Tim Walz, Minnesota’s Democratic governor, who was Kamala Harris’s running mate in the 2024 presidential election won by Donald Trump.

Lee’s allusion to Walz came as conservative influencers misleadingly suggested an alliance between the governor and Boelter. Walz’s Democratic predecessor, Mark Dayton, appointed Boelter in 2016 to a 60-member voluntary advisory board. Boelter’s appointment was renewed in 2019 by Walz, who did not know him.

Tina Smith, a US Democratic senator from Minnesota, confronted Lee two days after the shootings in her state to tell him his posts were “brutal and cruel”, as CNN reported. “He should think about the implications of what he’s saying and doing.”

Lee didn’t say much to Smith and seemed surprised she had confronted him, as she put it. However, he subsequently deleted the posts in question.

After Wednesday’s killing, Lee told reporters that Kirk had recently texted him about being excited to visit Utah. Lee also exalted Kirk’s “boundless energy and great love for his country”.

Lee’s lament prompted one X user to rhetorically ask the senator “what has changed” because he had “expressed no sympathy” after the Minnesota lawmaker shootings.

“It seems you do know how to respond appropriately to tragedy,” another user replied to Lee. “I wish you would have … shown that same respect to Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark.”

Yet another reply added: “I pray for Charlie Kirk’s family. They should not have to go through this. Nor did Melissa or Mark Hortman right??”

Smith posted about Kirk on Wednesday nearly an hour before Lee published his tribute to the staunch Trump ally.

“Horrific,” Smith wrote. “We all need to condemn these acts of political violence that are becoming far too commonplace in this country. We can’t continue like this.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/republican-senator-mike-lee-kirk-shooting-melissa-hortman


Maga creatures are complete filth.
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eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 11:40 am
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 01:20 pm
For some reason, I was reminded of the propaganda cult surrounding the party ‘martyrs’ during the Nazi era.

Until 1945, the Nazi movement cultivated a considerable cult around these individuals. Nazi propaganda referred to them as ‘blood witnesses’ or ‘martyrs’ of the “movement” or ‘new Germany’. Between 1933 and 1945, numerous streets and public squares, buildings (e.g. NSDAP offices, youth centres, schools, etc.) and facilities (e.g. labour service camps) as well as formations of the SA, SS, HJ and Reich Labour Service were named after these individuals. ‘Reality’ did not play a decisive role in the construction of Nazi martyr myths; rather, political and propagandistic expediency was central. Heroes and heroic stories were intended to embody the rise of the Nazi movement, and these narratives were meant to weld the movement's own supporters together.

Even today, neo-Nazi circles revere many of the ‘dead of the movement’ as “heroes” or ‘resistance fighters against the Weimar Republic’. They cultivate a cult around them, which is expressed in questionable publications, in digital ‘memorial shrines’ on the internet, in the laying of wreaths on the graves of these ‘martyrs’ and in the naming of right-wing extremist “comradeships” after them. This type of ‘culture of remembrance’ also serves propaganda purposes.

Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 04:26 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Kirk was assassinated because someone didn't like his speech. As for your reference to Nazis, just so you know, he didn't advocate persecution of Jews or putting them in concentration camps, but you go right ahead and blame the victim.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 05:54 pm
@Brandon9000,
Nobody accepts your narrow, half-witted, definition of a Nazi.

Kirk was a repulsive Nazi bigot who espoused a gun policy that pandered to the inadequacies, and perversions, of pathetic MAGA paedophile scum instead of safeguarding a child's right to life.

It couldn't happen over here because we don't let 2nd amendment child killing paedophiles shoot up our schools.

Kirk was a filthy Nazi piece of **** who reaped what he sowed.

Good riddance.

Btw, Trump was the one to start with the violent political rhetoric, up to, during, and shortly after he lost the election, and now it's coming back to bite him on the arse.

Kirk hated Britain and the British people, never missing a chance to insult us and our culture, calling this place a Hellhole.

Well I'd rather live in a Hellhole than a Shithole.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2025 11:19 pm
@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:
As for your reference to Nazis, just so you know, he didn't advocate persecution of Jews or putting them in concentration camps, but you go right ahead and blame the victim.
M y reference for the Nazis was: I thought about it.
I didn't blame the Jews at all but meant that the Nazis established a culture of victimhood here in the 20's of last century.

Sorry, if that wasn't clear.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2025 02:21 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Nothing ever is with that individual.

I know what you mean, the individuals killed in the attempted putch were lionised with their names being called out and answered at ceremonies.

Heydrich was treated the same way after his assasination.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2025 02:47 am
The Utah Governor has promised the death sentence for the assassin, before a trial or even capture.

Now he has nothing to lose.

"When they kick down your front door, how you gonna come,
With your hands on your head or on the trigger of your gun?

When the law breaks in how you gonna go,
Shot down on the pavement or waiting in Death Row."

Clash Guns of Brixton.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2025 02:58 am
@Brandon9000,
Quote:
Kirk was assassinated because someone didn't like his speech.

How do you know this? It comes awfully close to the "mind reading" criticism you always level at other people here. Why not wait until the assassin is identified, caught, and interrogated before trying to tell us what his motivations might have been?

Walter Hinteler wrote:
They cultivate a cult around them, which is expressed in questionable publications, in digital ‘memorial shrines’ on the internet, in the laying of wreaths on the graves of these ‘martyrs’ and in the naming of right-wing extremist “comradeships” after them.

Seems an apt comparison.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2025 03:16 am
@hightor,
Brandon has a habit of making up rules for other people that he never follows himself, then arbitrarily declaring himself the "winner."

It's a weird adolescent mindset.
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