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The 47th President and the Post-Biden World

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 05:38 am
@tsarstepan,
That really made me laugh.

Viva schadenfreude.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 06:03 am
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Plane crash near Washington DC: what we know so far
An American Airlines passenger jet with 64 onboard was coming in to land at Ronald Reagan Washington national airport when it collided with a military helicopter

A regional passenger jet with 64 onboard has collided with a military helicopter before crashing into the Potomac river while approaching Ronald Reagan Washington national airport on Wednesday night.

The American Airlines flight, operated by PSA Airlines as American Eagle Flight 5342, had flown from Wichita, Kansas, carrying 60 passengers and four crew members when it collided with a Black Hawk helicopter that was on a training flight.

Media sources have reported that 19 bodies have been recovered so far from the Potomac river, where both aircraft fell. About 300 first responders were working on the rescue operation. The Potomac River is about 8 feet deep.

The helicopter was believed to be carrying three soldiers, with no senior army officials onboard. The Black Hawk helicopter involved in the crash was based out of Fort Belvoir, Virginia.

Russian state media has reported that figure skaters Evgenia Shishkova and Vadim Naumov were on board. The pair, who were married, won the world championships in pairs figure skating in 1994 and lived in the US. The governing body for figure skating in the United States confirmed that athletes, coaches and family members were returning from the national development camp held in conjunction with the US championships in Kansas.

Temperatures in the area were below freezing, and any length of time spent in the water would be extremely dangerous for anyone who survived the initial incident, with hypothermia setting in quickly in very cold water.

Inflatable boats and dive teams searched the site, with helicopters circling above, and large floodlights illuminating the scene from the shore. About 300 responders were involved in the search. The operations were made more difficult by strong gusts of wind as well as the cold.

Washington DC fire and emergency medical services chief John Donnelly said: “The challenges are access … there is wind, there [are] pieces of ice out there, so it’s just dangerous and hard to work in

The helicopter was on a training exercise in some of the most tightly controlled airspace in the world. The weather in DC was clear. There was no immediate indication of any deliberate or terrorist cause.

All takeoffs and landings have been halted at the airport while the rescue operation is underway.

President Donald Trump said he had been briefed on the “terrible accident” and praising the “incredible work” done by emergency services. He later said on social media that the crash “should have been prevented”.

Pete Hegseth, sworn in just days ago as Trump’s defense secretary, posted on social media that an investigation has been “launched immediately” by the army and the defense department

Ari Schulman, an eyewitness who was driving home when the incident happened, described a “stream of sparks” overhead. “Initially I saw the plane and it looked fine, normal. It was right about to head over land,” he told CNN. “Three seconds later, and at that point it was banked all the way to the right … I could see the underside of it, it was lit up a very bright yellow, and there was a stream of sparks underneath it. It looked like a Roman candle.”

American Airlines has set up a phone line for relatives who believe they may have lost ones one on board.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/30/american-airlines-plane-crash-washington-death-toll-details

People are going to want to know if this has anything to do with Trump's cuts.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 08:33 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

The Workers Strike Back party is gearing up for a ground game to start soon. I’m all in on knocking doors and making sure people know about it. That’s my electoral focus. Post duopoly.


I'm no expert on American politics by any means, but I would have thought that if one seriously wanted to change the electoral dominance of the two major parties, ( duopoly is too trite and misleading a term) one wouldn't hitch their efforts on a new party with an aggressive Star Wars(ish) name.

The main focus should be on electoral reform, ending the electoral college and moving to a system of PR, and for presidential elections having a run off vote between the two leading candidates like they do in France.

We don't have direct executive elections over here, parliament chooses the executive. This means that it's easier for smaller parties to thrive but it's still a very long slog.

In 1972 the Peoples Party was founded. It became the Ecology Party in 1975, and the the Green Party in 1990. Caroline Lucas was elected the first Green MP in 2010. They had their best showing the the most recent election winning 4 seats.

That's a long time and still a long way to go before any significant power base.

It was brought about by focussing on local issues and local council elections, build up a presence on the local council and show that they were a serious challenge to the incumbent MP, and only then were people confident to vote in enough numbers in a General Election.

A more prudent approach would be to support candidates in the two main parties who are willing to vote for electoral reform. In my experience it's normally the losing party, in this case the Democrats who would be more amenable to electoral reform.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 08:40 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
People are going to want to know if this has anything to do with Trump's cuts.
The number of narrowly avoided accidents in the USA in recent years has been so high that, statistically speaking, a crash with many fatalities could not surprise anyone.

The USA now needs to fundamentally overhaul its air safety system all the more urgently - but it is currently not equipped to do so: The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has been without leadership since the previous FAA Administrator Mike Whitaker resigned his position on the day of President Trump's inauguration. Trump has not yet appointed a successor.

The important Aviation Security Advisory Committee, which advises the Secretary of Transportation on security issues, is also currently unable to do anything: Trump fired it just hours after taking office.
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 09:37 am
@izzythepush,
You make good points.

The results of left-leaning parties in Lash's South Carolina were quite impressive last year. Jill Stein's Green Party pulled in 0.3% as did Cornel West's United Citizen's Party. The South Carolina Workers Party received a whopping o.1%. That's nearly 8,000 voters for the independent left! Out of
2,548,140 total votes cast!

One thing's pretty clear – these minor parties aren't drawing a significant number of people away from the "duopoly".
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 10:59 am
@hightor,
We do have a totally different election system here in Germany.
There were 61.2 million eligible voters for the elections to the 20th, current Bundestag. Around 46.9 million people cast their votes, a turnout of 76.6%.
47 parties stood for election! (The next election is on February 23. But it will last until February 7 for the next until we know haw many parties are on the ballot) The minor parties - not in parliament, named in the statistics as "others" - got 8.6%.
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thack45
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 11:17 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
People are going to want to know if this has anything to do with Trump's cuts.


It's a difficult situation for decent people to think about. We know Trump will indiscriminately reach for anything that shades anyone from his enormous list of enemies, and gives him opportunity to glorify himself without actually doing anything.

A recent such cheap shot is against Biden, framing him as having "abandoned" two astronauts slated to return end of March, and (publicly, of course) asking Musk to "go get them". Trump's looking forward to a parade, and a mass of PR/marketing fanfare stating his greatness in acting to get them home (following that would be criticism of media for not adequately acknowledging his greatness, liberal plot, deep state... but I'm getting distracted).

Recently some debate on the left has emerged about how to even be heard at all by the American public. The tl;dr so far? Be maga-lite. At this moment, lies and conspiracies are being cooked up for this latest tragedy. Does the left want some? Should I start 'just asking questions'?
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 11:56 am
Trump goes on the offensive against DEI at plane crash briefing

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/a74/17c/79dd640f228c92a0584326dcc0b72fc783-trump-funny-hair.rhorizontal.w700.jpg

Quote:
President Donald Trump went on the offensive against diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives at his press briefing on the plane crash, but there is no evidence to back up Trump's claims that DEI policies or any deficiencies on the part of air traffic controllers were factors in the accident and Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said earlier that "everything was standard in the lead up."

Trump called Pete Buttigieg, the transportation secretary in the Biden administration, "bulls---," and said Buttigieg has "run [the Department of Transportation] right into the ground with his diversity."

abc

Never miss an opportunity to politically exploit a tragedy. So presidential.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 10:04 pm
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/73/5a/92/735a923627ac4b77deb18a3c3e9d5e7b.jpg
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 05:17 am
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Last night, just before 9:00 Eastern time, an American Airlines jet originating in Wichita, Kansas, carrying 64 people and a U.S. Army helicopter carrying three military personnel collided in the airspace over Washington, D.C. Both aircraft crashed into the Potomac River. Authorities say there were no survivors.

I’m going to leave that right there, with my best wishes for the victims and their friends and family, and hope that we can give them some breathing room.

It is perfectly legitimate to stop reading right here and pick the world up again tomorrow.

But for people who want to hear more about the larger picture of today’s United States, I’ll turn to what the administration’s reaction to this tragedy says about the ideology of the new Trump administration.

As Claire Moses of the New York Times noted, last night’s event is the most serious air disaster involving a commercial jet since 2009. Last night, more than an hour after news of the crash broke, President Donald Trump posted on his social media network: “The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport. The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It is a CLEAR NIGHT, the lights on the plane were blazing, why didn’t the helicopter go up or down, or turn. Why didn’t the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane. This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!”

Trump’s impulse to blame other people for the tragedy even before anything was known about its causes reflects his rejection of the concept of the American government in favor of the idea that the world is simply a collection of individuals. Since the early twentieth century, the U.S. government has performed an extensive and remarkably successful role in public safety. But Trump talks about the U.S. government—what he calls the “Deep State”—as if it is the enemy and must be destroyed, while elevating those operating outside of it as society’s true leaders.

This rejection of the U.S. government began as soon as he took office as he purged officials and civil servants with the accusation that they had been poisoned by “Marxism,” or diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives.

Transportation safety officials were among those purged, and the loss of the person at the head of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) during former president Joe Biden’s term, Mike Whitaker, after he clashed with Elon Musk captures Trump’s antigovernment worldview. After Whitaker called for Musk’s SpaceX company to be fined $633,009 over safety and environmental violations, Musk endorsed an employee’s complaint that Whitaker required SpaceX “to consult on minor paperwork updates relating to previously approved non-safety issues that have already been determined to have zero environmental impact.” Musk wrote: “He needs to resign.”

Musk appears to believe that humans must colonize Mars in order to become a multiplanetary species as insurance against the end of life on Earth. As Jeffrey Kluger reported for Time magazine today, Musk has complained that the FAA’s environmental and safety requirements were “unreasonable and exasperating” and that they “undercut American industry’s ability to innovate.” Musk publicly complained: “The fundamental problem is that humanity will forever be confined to Earth unless there is radical reform at the FAA!”

Whitaker resigned the day Trump took office. That same day, the administration froze the hiring of all federal employees, including air traffic controllers, although the U.S. Department of Transportation warned in June 2023 that 77% of air traffic control facilities critical to daily operations of the airline industry were short staffed. The next day, January 21, Trump fired Transportation Security Administration (TSA) chief David Pekoske, and administration officials removed all the members of the Aviation Security Advisory Committee, which Congress created after the 1988 PanAm 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland. The Trump administration vacated the positions with an eye to “eliminating the misuse of resources.”

Other vacant positions at the FAA, according to CNN’s Alexandra Skores, are “the deputy administrator, an associate administrator of airports, an associate administrator for security and hazardous materials safety, chief counsel, assistant administrator of communications, assistant administrator of government and industry affairs, and assistant administrator for policy, international affairs, and environment.”

Late this morning, Trump spoke to reporters about the crash, saying “We do not know what led to this crash but we have some very strong opinions and ideas, and I think we'll probably state those opinions now.” That opinion was that the people responsible for the accident were not of “superior intelligence.” He claimed that his Democratic predecessors had lowered standards for air traffic controllers (although the language he quoted from the FAA website was from his own time in office). “[W]hen I left office and Biden took over, he changed them back to lower than ever before. I put safety first. Obama, Biden, and the Democrats put policy first. And they put politics at a level that nobody has ever seen, because this was the lowest level. Their policy was horrible and their politics was even worse."

He continued: “The FAA, which is overseen by Secretary Pete Buttigieg—a real winner,” apparently forgetting that the former transportation secretary was part of the Biden administration and left office on January 20. “Do you know how badly everything’s run since he's run the Department of Transportation? He's a disaster...he's just got a good line of bullsh*t."

Trump blamed diversity hiring for the collision. When a reporter asked Trump, “I'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity had something to do with this crash,” Trump answered: “Because I have common sense, ok? And unfortunately, a lot of people don't.” Trump’s new secretary of defense, Pete Hegseth, whom Trump elevated to that position from his role as a weekend host at the Fox News Channel, also spoke, confirming that "We will have the best and brightest in every position possible…. The era of DEI is gone at the Defense Department."

Shortly after the press conference, Sydney Ember and Emily Steel of the New York Times reported that staffing at Ronald Reagan National Airport outside Washington, D.C., was “not normal” at the time of the crash, with one air traffic controller doing the work usually assigned to two.

In response to Trump’s comments, Buttigieg posted: “Despicable. As families grieve, Trump should be leading, not lying. We put safety first, drove down close calls, grew Air Traffic Control, and had zero commercial airline crash fatalities out of millions of flights on our watch. President Trump now oversees the military and the FAA. One of his first acts was to fire and suspend some of the key personnel who helped keep our skies safe. Time for the President to show actual leadership and explain what he will do to prevent this from happening again.”

Tonight, Trump held a televised signing of a new executive order blaming former presidents Barack Obama, who left office in 2017, and Joe Biden for the crash. It says that “problematic and likely illegal decisions” during their administrations “minimized merit and competence in the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).” They implemented “dangerous ‘diversity equity and inclusion’ tactics,” it said, and recruited “individuals with ‘severe intellectual’ disabilities in the FAA.” The executive order says that his return to “merit-based recruitment, hiring, and promotion” will “ensure that all Americans fly with peace of mind.”

MeidasTouch posted: “Trump's handling of this situation should be treated as one of the biggest scandals in presidential history.”

But there is a larger story than that of Trump’s attempt to blame Democrats for a disaster that happened on his watch. His administration seems to be trying to replace the government Americans have created through their representatives over centuries to promote the interests of all Americans with a group of white men who can operate as they see best, without restraint.

Ashley Parker of The Atlantic reported last night that the Office of Management and Budget sent out the memo that froze all federal grants and loans—and thus prompted a constitutional crisis—without getting approval from the White House. Trump has nominated right-wing religious extremist Russell Vought, who was a key author of Project 2025, to be the director of the Office of Management and Budget, although he has not yet been confirmed.

Emily Davies, Jeff Stein, and Faiz Siddiqui of the Washington Post reported yesterday that the proposal emailed to many of the 2.3 million people who work for the federal government offering them an inducement to resign was also a surprise to the White House. The memo came from the Office of Personnel Management, now run by Elon Musk’s team, and the email had the same title as one Musk sent to Twitter employees when he took over the company.

Rather than cowing employees, though, the unauthorized and unclear offer prompted federal employees to flood Reddit with vows to “make these goons as frustrated as possible.” One wrote, “It took me 10 years of applying and 20 years experience in my field to get here. I will not be pushed out by two billionaire trust funds babies. I'M NOT LEAVING!"

Annie Linskey and Rebecca Ballhaus of the Wall Street Journal reported yesterday that Meta has settled a lawsuit Trump brought against the company after it suspended him because of his participation in the January 6, 2021, attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. Meta will pay $25 million. The reporters explained that Trump demanded the settlement from Meta chief executive officer Mark Zuckerberg after the 2024 election, saying the case had to be dealt with before Zuckerberg could be “brought into the tent.” As Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) said: “It looks like a bribe and a signal to every company that corruption is the name of the game.”

It seems that Musk and the technology billionaires want to smash the government to enable their futuristic visions, and Christian Nationalists like Russell Vought want to smash it to replace it with religious rule. Trump wants to smash it for money and power. But in the first two weeks of the new administration, their enthusiasm for breaking things has produced what Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo—even before today’s frantic attempt to blame Democrats for the air tragedy—called “a fairly epic face plant.”

hcr
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thack45
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 03:39 pm
@hingehead,
We've seen how Christian nationalists operate, and how they've been able to win, and now, a United States vice president freestyling Christian doctrine on television – telling the rest of us what Christianity really is. Given all we've seen, and with power sustained over a long enough period of time, it would be inevitable that bible believing Americans become yet another group placed on the wheel of moral panic.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 03:46 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

The EOs: the thread.

https://x.com/annarmatson/status/1881545771683827829?s=46

2. Delivering Emergency Price Relief

“I hereby order the heads of all executive departments and agencies to deliver emergency price relief, consistent with applicable law, to the American people and increase the prosperity of the American worker.”








Is this another joke?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 03:49 pm
@thack45,
Fortunately we have the AB of C for that, although the current one has fucked up considerably, but who knows, the next one might be OK.

That's the benefit of an established religion, we don't have to bother going to church or any of that, it's all sorted out by the government.
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thack45
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 04:05 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
I hereby order the heads of all executive departments and agencies to deliver emergency price relief, consistent with applicable law, to the American people and increase the prosperity of the American worker


I used to get emails like that. Not so much with the "American people" stuff, but definitely the 'it's the boss, if you don't do something I'm blaming you for this, I don't have any ideas' vibes
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 02:48 am
@glitterbag,
Given this:
Quote:
consistent with applicable law

It must be.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 03:37 am
@glitterbag,
From what I've dug up, "Anna R. Matson" seems to be a big believer in RFK Jr.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 06:19 am
(Hard know whether to put some of these stories in the Trump thread or the Musk thread.)

Elon Musk is reportedly taking control of the inner workings of US government agencies

Sean O'Kane wrote:
People working for, or with, Elon Musk are reportedly taking over the inner workings of multiple government agencies, including the Office of Personnel Management, the Treasury Department, and the General Services Administration.

The Washington Post reported Friday that the highest-ranking career official at Treasury is leaving the department after “a clash” with people working for Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) over “access to sensitive payment systems,” citing three unnamed sources.

The DOGE officials have been asking for access to the system — which controls the flow of more than $6 trillion annually to programs like Social Security and Medicare — since after the election in November. The Trump administration has been looking for ways to stop the flow of federal money appropriated by Congress, including hastily ordering a confusing spending freeze, which experts say violates the Constitution.

Reuters also reported Friday that Musk aides have “locked career civil servants out of computer systems that contain the personal data of millions of federal employees,” citing two unnamed agency officials. Leaked documents obtained by Wired show Musk’s staff have taken over the General Services Administration, a government agency that manages federal offices and technology.

Across the government, tech workers are being grilled and subjected to code reviews by Musk aides, Wired reported Thursday. Musk and his team also appear to have been involved in a recent government-wide email offering employees the chance to resign.

Musk’s disruption of the federal government so far tracks closely to the chaotic days following his takeover of Twitter, as detailed by books like “Character Limit” and other reporting from the time.

It represents an unprecedented power grab within the U.S. government, and one that directly contradicts the original stated purpose of DOGE. When Donald Trump first announced it in November after he won the election, the idea was to set up DOGE as an entity outside the federal government that would make recommendations on where to cut spending.

That’s not what happened.

After his inauguration, Trump signed an executive order that renamed the U.S. Digital Service to the “U.S. DOGE service,” meaning Musk is now working inside the government. He reportedly has an office in the West Wing of the White House, but is also apparently sleeping at the DOGE office, according to Wired.

techcrunch
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 11:42 am
there is some argument over the origins of the following nursery rhyme. Some date it to James I, others to William III.

The meaning is clear regardless, foreign outsiders coming to take the throne of England and lining their own pockets, the velvet gowns being stolen.

It seems particularly relevant today.

Hark, hark, the dogs do bark,
The beggars are coming to town
Some in rags, and some in jags,
And some in velvet gowns.
blatham
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 03:40 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
He reportedly has an office in the West Wing of the White House, but is also apparently sleeping at the DOGE office, according to Wired.

A sleep-over. Isn't that just special.

How many times a day do you think Musk has the two locations swept for bugs?
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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 04:05 pm
@hightor,
Since nobody voted for Musk, I would argue that, if he looks to increase the budget for pretty much anything, it would be taxation without representation.

And we all know how that went last time.
 

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