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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2025 05:03 am
Trump tells UK to buy chlorinated chicken from US if it wants tariff relief

The UK has long-ruled out allowing imports of chlorine-washed chicken from the US, with Rachel Reeves in November reiterating her opposition

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Britain must allow US chlorine-washed chicken into UK markets if it wants relief from sweeping tariffs, Donald Trump has indicated.

It comes after the UK failed to avoid tariffs imposed on the global economy, with the US president slapping a 10 per cent levies on all British exports to the United States.

Mr Trump - who imposed heavier tariffs on a raft of other countries, including a 20 per cent on EU imports - said they were “reciprocal” in response to measures put in place by other countries who had “looted, pillaged, raped, plundered” the US economy.

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US President Donald Trump announced a range of international economic measures

In a statement published alongside the tariff announcement, the White House said: “The UK maintains non-science-based standards that severely restrict US exports of safe, high-quality beef and poultry products.”

It suggested that Britain’s ban on chlorinated chicken was among a range of “non-tariff barriers” that limit the US’s ability to trade.

The UK has long ruled out allowing imports of chlorine-washed chicken from the US due to health concerns, with Downing Street on Thursday reiterating its manifesto commitment to high food standards.

Asked whether the UK could allow imports of chlorine washed chicken in order to appease the US, the prime minister’s officials spokesperson said: “Our position on that is unchanged. You’ve got the manifesto commitment on food standards, which obviously remains.”

It comes after Rachel Reeves in November said the UK would not allow “British farmers to be undercut by different rules and regulations in other countries”.

Chlorine-washed chicken, or chlorinated chicken, refers to poultry products that have been washed or dipped in water containing chlorine dioxide in order to kill bacteria.

While evidence suggests chlorine itself is not harmful in small doses, critics argue the need to treat chicken with the chemical stems from poorer hygiene earlier on in the production process.

A 2014 report by US non-profit Consumer Reports found that 97 per cent of 300 American chicken breasts tested contained harmful bacteria, including Salmonella, campylobacter and E.Coli.

Around half of the chicken breasts tested also contained at least one type of bacteria that was resistant to three or more antibiotics.

Meanwhile, if you ate a large amount of chlorinated chicken – the equivalent to 5 per cent of your body weight in one day –you could be exposed to harmful levels of the chemical compound known as chlorate, according to the European Commission.

The last major polling done on the issue, conducted in 2020, revealed that 80 per cent of Britons are opposed to allowing imports to the UK, and the same proportion is also against allowing chicken products that have been farmed using hormones.

There is also growing pressure from the farming industry to rule out concessions on the issue, amid fears it could undercut British farmers and drive down food standards.

Nigel Farage admitted he would allow American chlorine-washed chicken to be sold in the UK as part of a free trade deal with the US. But Liz Webster, founder of Save British Farming, last week hit back, telling The Independent the British public would be “rightly appalled” and warned against trading away the UK’s high standards.

“A US trade deal would be devastating for British farming, food security, public health, animal welfare, and the environment”, she said.

“US agriculture is heavily subsidised and relies on intensive, industrial methods - including chemicals and practices banned in the UK. The British public is rightly appalled by chlorinated chicken and hormone-fed beef. We are an animal-loving nation that values high standards, and we must not trade them away.”

Previous prime ministers, including Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss, were forced to rule out concessions on chlorinated chicken and hormone-fed beef in future trade deal talks with the US after pressure from the British public.

The Department for Business and Trade (DBT) has been contacted for comment.

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2025 05:11 am
@hightor,
The European Union banned chlorine-washed chicken in 1997 to protect consumers and ensure high food safety and animal welfare standards.
Here, animal welfare standards are prioritized, which are lower in the US.
And chlorine washing masks poor hygiene standards, which can lead to disease-causing bacteria like salmonella and listeria.

The UK-laws are very similar to those in the EU.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2025 06:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I'm concerned about Trump's focus on us.

As we're the English speaking country in Europe he seems to think we share values as well as language.

Trump keeps telling Americans how popular he is over here, while the truth is the exact opposite. He's hated.

It will build up resentment and anti Americanism.

You can't make irreverent people religious, it won't happen regardless of how much money you pour in.

Even amongst church going Britons the razzmatazz of American evangelism is offputting and stomach churning.

People are more likely to be turned off, equating Christianity with Fascism.

It's the same with chicken. Bleach should be used to clean toilets, it has no place in food preparation. The very idea turns my stomach.

The only people likely to buy it are the very poor and then only if it's considerably cheaper than unadulterated chicken.

Starmer should go on the offensive and take the state visit off the table.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2025 07:43 am
Russell Brand, (oft quoted by Lash,) has been charged with rape and sexual assault.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2025 08:08 am
@izzythepush,
The USA's aggressive marketing of chicken has, ironically, contributed to the flood of illegal border crossings. Central American chicken farmers can't compete with cheap imported mass-production poultry from the north so farm families are forced leave their small farms and travel to urban areas looking for work where they are prey to gang violence and human trafficking. They often end up using their meager savings to pay smugglers to get them across the US border after making the dangerous trek on foot.
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thack45
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2025 08:59 am
@hightor,
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Trump reportedly kept Waltz on the team purely to deny giving “a scalp” to the Democrats and what he perceives as their allies in the mainstream media.


This is good for a few reasons. One, it's confirmation that the concept – recently touched on here, where certain "leaders" sacrifice competence and talent for the sake of absolute loyalty – is this administration's reality. The crackpot Loomer is a good example, who can't even fathom putting country before the ruler:

“I will continue working hard to support his agenda, and I will continue reiterating the importance of strong vetting, for the sake of protecting the President and our national security.”

Now there's a good loyalist.
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Or look at his team lawyers, who keep trying to argue in court that because Donald Trump is president, laws do not apply to him, oh and also, he is the law.

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Two, it confirms the absolute necessity of optics to this administration. They put on a good show to start, with the rapid fire spectacle of the stern father (also discussed here) acting decisively and making tough choices for the poor, misguided American people.

But it's coming apart. They've got about a year and a half to keep the weight of sheer indifference and stupidity from collapsing in on itself like a dying star, and I don't think things are going how they'd hoped; certainly not abroad.


I think Dems should be clowning Susie Wiles for this. She's been presented as a capable gatekeeper who won't let the mistakes of the first administration be repeated. It's not a great fit, but probably good enough for the media.
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thack45
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2025 09:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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The US president, Donald Trump, took a moment last night to use his social media channels to offer his full backing for the French far-right leader Marine Le Pen.


This response (I didn't even read it) was unusually delayed, even for Trump, who in his first term often took a day whenever something in the news didn't look so good for him.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2025 11:05 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Trump might want to come up with some different wording in this case – "Witch Hunt against Marine Le Pen" might be a bit too suggestive.

From what I've heard, the case against National Rally is strong, and if laws were broken her prosecution is hardly the "lawfare" Trump makes it out to be.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2025 11:29 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
From what I've heard, the case against National Rally is strong, and if laws were broken her prosecution is hardly the "lawfare" Trump makes it out to be.
According to an Ifop poll for 'Ouest France', almost two-thirds (64%) of French people do not want the law to be amended to abolish provisional execution for elected representatives convicted at first instance.
While 68% of Rassemblement National supporters would like to see the provisional execution of a first instance conviction against an elected representative abolished, only 36% of French people, across all political affiliations, are in favour.

Marine Le Pen condamnée : 64 % des Français favorables à l’exécution provisoire des peines

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2025 12:39 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
On the other hand:
The conviction of French right-wing populist Marine Le Pen for embezzling EU funds has so far done nothing to dampen her popularity, according to a survey. Almost half of those surveyed - 49 per cent - would like the leader of the Rassemblement National (RN) party to run in the next presidential election, according to a survey published on Friday by the opinion research institute ‘Ifop-Fiducial’. (link)

Within a month, support for Le Pen has risen significantly in this respect, by seven percentage points. However, only 37 per cent of respondents are still convinced that she can actually run. At the end of February, the figure was 74 per cent, which represents a drop of half. For the survey, 1000 French people over the age of 18 were questioned online.
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