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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2025 07:50 am
@hightor,
Govts need to investigate who is suddenly challenging the airspace over their military installations and interfering with flights at several airports. There’s really no legitimate argument against that statement.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2025 08:01 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Govts need to investigate who is suddenly challenging the airspace over their military installations and interfering with flights at several airports. There’s really no legitimate argument against that statement.
Since your response refers to the drone flights in Germany:
yes, it is done. Not by the government but by the prosecution offices resp. police forces (police is state affair in Germany).
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2025 08:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Do they know who was operating the drones over Rammstein? Have they released the results of the investigation?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2025 08:24 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Do they know who was operating the drones over Rammstein?
No.
Lash wrote:
Have they released the results of the investigation?
The public general prosecutor's office in Koblenz (Rhineland-Palatinate), which is responsible for the investigation, has not yet made any findings.
The investigation files are not public due to the ongoing investigations.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2025 08:37 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Govts need to investigate who is suddenly challenging the airspace over their military installations and interfering with flights at several airports.

Too late for that. There are tens of thousands of drones now in civilian hands around the world. (I knew this would happen.)
Quote:
There’s really no legitimate argument against that statement.

Yes there is. People wish to be free from government surveillance, right? People wish to use the product they purchased for their own reasons without federal oversight, right? You make this argument quite often but now it looks like you don't really value FREEDOM, right?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2025 08:45 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
People wish to use the product they purchased for their own reasons without federal oversight, right? You make this argument quite often but now it looks like you don't really value FREEDOM, right?
That actually slipped my mind because the flying of drones is quite heavily regulated here (EU Drone Regulation, German 'Act on the Adaptation of National Regulations to the Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) 2019/947 of 24 May 2019 on the rules and procedures for the operation of unmanned aircraft of 14 June 2021') - otherwise the police could even intervene and the public prosecutor's office could start an investigation.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2025 09:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
'Act on the Adaptation of National Regulations to the Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) 2019/947 of 24 May 2019 on the rules and procedures for the operation of unmanned aircraft of 14 June 2021'
If you think that this is a rather long title of a law (I translated it literally), the best is a one-word law: Rinderkennzeichnungs- und Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz - 'Cattle marking and beef labelling supervision duties delegation law'-
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jan, 2025 04:39 pm
@hightor,
LOL. It IS the surveillance. Lame trolling.
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jan, 2025 04:00 am
@Lash,
Kind of a lame response. LOL. Well if it IS "the government" then you already know and don't need it to be revealed by the sinister spooks who would lie about it anyway, right? Of course it leaves open the question as to why "the government" is spying on its own military, right?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jan, 2025 04:08 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Of course it leaves open the question as to why "the government" is spying on its own military, right?
With the drone overflights over American military installations in Germany, it makes sense that the German government would want to find out something. Likewise with the industrial plants here - who knows what's going on?
roger
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jan, 2025 04:44 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

]With the drone overflights over American military installations in Germany, it makes sense that the German government would want to find out something. Likewise with the industrial plants here - who knows what's going on?

I agree that a certain amount of curiosity would be justified.
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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jan, 2025 04:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Knowing that drones attract so much attention and with their being so easily obtained, any number of troublemakers, practical jokers, and instigators could be behind unidentified drones. Anywhere.
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jan, 2025 12:15 pm
@hightor,
And that information should be known.
hightor
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jan, 2025 12:48 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
And that information should be known.

What if the drones aren't conducting government surveillance at all? What harm have they done? What if they're being operated by domestic freedom fighters who've managed to remain unidentified? So you don't think that free people should have the right to use the drones that they legally purchased to find out what the government is up to? It's difficult to know where you stand.
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engineer
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2025 01:20 pm
The Trump administration has officially spoken and said that the drones observed over NJ were licensed by the FAA for various uses and are not in any way nefarious.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2025 01:43 pm
@engineer,
White House press secretary Leavitt said that the issue grew worse "due to curiosity".
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2025 06:38 pm
Pretty effective coverup, eh?
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