@hightor,
Govts need to investigate who is suddenly challenging the airspace over their military installations and interfering with flights at several airports. There’s really no legitimate argument against that statement.
@Lash,
Lash wrote:Govts need to investigate who is suddenly challenging the airspace over their military installations and interfering with flights at several airports. There’s really no legitimate argument against that statement.
Since your response refers to the drone flights in Germany:
yes, it is done. Not by the government but by the prosecution offices resp. police forces (police is state affair in Germany).
@Walter Hinteler,
Do they know who was operating the drones over Rammstein? Have they released the results of the investigation?
@Lash,
Lash wrote:Do they know who was operating the drones over Rammstein?
No.
Lash wrote: Have they released the results of the investigation?
The public general prosecutor's office in Koblenz (Rhineland-Palatinate), which is responsible for the investigation, has not yet made any findings.
The investigation files are not public due to the ongoing investigations.
@Lash,
Quote:Govts need to investigate who is suddenly challenging the airspace over their military installations and interfering with flights at several airports.
Too late for that. There are tens of thousands of drones now in civilian hands around the world.
(I knew this would happen.)
Quote:There’s really no legitimate argument against that statement.
Yes there is. People wish to be free from government surveillance, right? People wish to use the product they purchased for their own reasons without federal oversight, right? You make this argument quite often but now it looks like you don't really value FREEDOM, right?
@hightor,
hightor wrote: People wish to use the product they purchased for their own reasons without federal oversight, right? You make this argument quite often but now it looks like you don't really value FREEDOM, right?
That actually slipped my mind because the flying of drones is quite heavily regulated here (EU Drone Regulation, German
'Act on the Adaptation of National Regulations to the Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) 2019/947 of 24 May 2019 on the rules and procedures for the operation of unmanned aircraft of 14 June 2021') - otherwise the police could even intervene and the public prosecutor's office could start an investigation.
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:'Act on the Adaptation of National Regulations to the Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) 2019/947 of 24 May 2019 on the rules and procedures for the operation of unmanned aircraft of 14 June 2021'
If you think that this is a rather long title of a law (I translated it literally), the best is a one-word law:
Rinderkennzeichnungs- und Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz - 'Cattle marking and beef labelling supervision duties delegation law'-
@hightor,
LOL. It IS the surveillance. Lame trolling.
@Lash,
Kind of a lame response. LOL. Well if it IS "the government" then
you already know and don't need it to be revealed by the sinister spooks who would lie about it anyway, right? Of course it leaves open the question as to why "the government" is spying on its own military, right?
@hightor,
hightor wrote: Of course it leaves open the question as to why "the government" is spying on its own military, right?
With the drone overflights over American military installations in Germany, it makes sense that the German government would want to find out something. Likewise with the industrial plants here - who knows what's going on?
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
]With the drone overflights over American military installations in Germany, it makes sense that the German government would want to find out something. Likewise with the industrial plants here - who knows what's going on?
I agree that a certain amount of curiosity would be justified.
@Walter Hinteler,
Knowing that drones attract so much attention and with their being so easily obtained, any number of troublemakers, practical jokers, and instigators could be behind unidentified drones. Anywhere.
@hightor,
And that information should be known.
@Lash,
Quote:And that information should be known.
What if the drones aren't conducting government surveillance at all? What harm have they done? What if they're being operated by domestic freedom fighters who've managed to remain unidentified? So you don't think that free people should have the right to use the drones that they legally purchased to find out what the government is up to? It's difficult to know where you stand.
The Trump administration has officially spoken and said that the drones observed over NJ were licensed by the FAA for various uses and are not in any way nefarious.
@engineer,
White House press secretary Leavitt said that the issue grew worse "due to curiosity".
Pretty effective coverup, eh?
If the government has an interest in making observation of us and eliminating our privacy, it will have ways to do so. And you are losing rights you had all along as time goes on.
I would like to offer Lash a friendly shoulder since Trump criticised St. Putin and called Putin 'nuts'. To make things worse, King Charles of Great Britain, recently spoke in Canada offering total support and approval to Canada because of our elected dictator Donald Trump terrible treatment of Canada. One last thing, Russian newscasters today claimed that Trump was still thinking in 19th reality, and she hoped his health and his life was safe. Yikes, right????
What are you going to do now, for newscasts?