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Cremation & Resurrection

 
 
usn0814
 
Thu 14 Nov, 2024 05:38 pm
Cremation and resurrection is a hard pill to swallow. Alan Hale who played the SKIPPER on Gilligan's Island was cremated and his ashes thrown into the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean. There's nothing left of his ashes. Millions of people have been cremated as a personal choice and their ashes spread in various parts as instructed by the deceased before death. So, what resurrection will they experience considering that the entire body has been destroyed by fire? The Bible, to my knowledge, does not mention cremation in terms of resurrection. You say?
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tsarstepan
 
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Thu 14 Nov, 2024 06:15 pm
@usn0814,
usn0814 wrote:

Cremation and resurrection is a hard pill to swallow. Alan Hale who played the SKIPPER on Gilligan's Island was cremated and his ashes thrown into the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean. There's nothing left of his ashes. Millions of people have been cremated as a personal choice and their ashes spread in various parts as instructed by the deceased before death. So, what resurrection will they experience considering that the entire body has been destroyed by fire? The Bible, to my knowledge, does not mention cremation in terms of resurrection. You say?

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coluber2001
 
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Thu 14 Nov, 2024 06:31 pm
@usn0814,
It's hard to cremate a metaphor. They keep going on and on.
The Anointed
 
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Thu 14 Nov, 2024 11:48 pm
@coluber2001,
You can cremate the body, but you cannot cremate the mind.
glitterbag
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2024 12:20 am
@The Anointed,
That's what you think!
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The Anointed
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2024 12:56 am
@The Anointed,
What is that body that gave to you birth?
Is it nothing but elements taken from earth?
Or was it created from the spirits and souls
Of your ancestors who, are from times that are old?
Believe as you will, but remember this verse,
When your coffin is placed in the back of the hearse;
The reward that the mind must surely receive
Is that which the mind (Not in the hearse) believes.
nacredambition
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2024 01:46 am
@The Anointed,
I thoroughly enjoy your posts but would counsel greater devotion to metre, foot and rhyme.

You're most fortunate indeed to have your own private website.

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steve reid
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2024 07:24 am
@usn0814,
usn0814 wrote:

There's nothing left of his ashes.

usn0814 wrote:

the entire body has been destroyed by fire.


Cremation didn't destroy the basic building blocks (Atoms) of Alan Hale

The destruction of Alan Hale's body by cremation to ashes is a rearrangement of the Atoms he was made from. Most of the atoms he was made from still exist (excepting those that have since decayed and radiated off particles and energy, but even here nothing is magic'd out of existence). If God exists surely God is capable of rearranging said atoms and energy back into Alan Hale.
Region Philbis
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2024 08:37 am
@steve reid,
Quote:
If God exists
that's a mighty big If...
The Anointed
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2024 04:26 pm
@Region Philbis,
What does your science say, happens to the information that has been gathered by a body mass that enters into a Black Hole where that body mass is gathered to the growing singularity forming in the worm hole that is created by the gathering mass?

Remembering that a singularity is a region of space-time in which matter is crushed so closely together that the gravitational laws explained by general relativity break down. In a singularity, the volume of space is zero and its density is infinite. Scientists believe such a singularity exists at the core of a black hole, which occurs when a super-massive sun reaches the end of its life and implodes.

And that General relativity also demands such a singularity must exist at the beginning of an expanding universe.

The Anointed
 
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Fri 15 Nov, 2024 08:04 pm
@The Anointed,
it has now been revealed that matter is no more than an illusion. Quantum physicists discovered that so called physical atoms are made up of vortices of energy that are constantly spinning and vibrating, each one radiating its own unique energy signature.

If you observe the composition of an atom with a microscope you would see a small, invisible tornado-like vortex, with a number of infinitely small energy vortices called quarks and photons. These are what make up the structure of the atom. As you focused in closer and closer on the structure of the atom, you would see nothing, you would observe a physical void. The atom has no physical structure, we have no physical structure, physical things really don’t have any physical structure! Atoms are made out of invisible energy, not tangible matter.

Energy can be and is converted to that which we perceive as matter. In fact, this apparent material universe at the time of the Big Bang, was, according to the most popular theory of the creation of this universe, pure electromagnetic energy, which, In my Opinion, was spewed out of a WHITE HOLE, in the trillions upon trillions of degrees, or, according to scientific measurements (180 million trillion, trillion degrees Fahrenheit), which electromagnetic energy has been converted to that which we perceive as matter, only to be reconverted to its original form as electromagnetic energy during the phase of the Big Crunch, when all will be ripped apart atom by atom, subatomic particle by subatomic particle, and fall as fire into the Great Abyss, or Black Hole that is connected to a White Hole at the end of an Einstein Rosen bridge that connects the two.

Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like ‘A GREAT THOUGHT’ than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. (R. C. Henry, “The Mental Universe”; Nature 436:29, 2005)

The root to the word “BRAHMAN” originally meant “SPEECH”, much the same as the “LOGOS” is said to mean ‘WORD. Shabda Brahman From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Shabda OR SHABDA STANDS FOR ‘WORD’ MANIFESTED BY SOUND [VERBAL] Bhartrhari speaks about the creative power of shabda, the manifold universe is a creation of Shabda Brahman The Rig Veda states that Brahman extends as far as Vāc (R.V.X.114.8), and has hymns in praise of ‘SPEECH AS THE CREATOR.’

In Sanskrit the similar meaning is given in the use of the word 'vac.' Vac means word. But in Sanskrit teachings of the Sanatana Dharma, vac has many levels. Including where the word is first considered as being in the mind as ‘A THOUGHT,’ and not as the spoken word or speech. The Greek word “LOGOS” which has been translated as “WORD”, should be seen as ‘The thoughts in the eternal mind which are to be expressed.

Both the Buddhist ‘Brahman’ and the Christian ‘Logos’ should be seen as ‘THE GREAT THOUGHT’, the ever evolving singularity of our origin, ‘’The essential divine reality of the universe; the eternal spirit from which all being originates and to which all must return at the close of each generation of the universe.
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