Hybrid Cars

Yes..a penis with iced balls. I wonder if its butter cream?

LOL! You guys are too much

Yeah, no doubt. It's time for us to change our driving habits!

The civic

it is a homer car.
but then again so is the corolla we have.
Its gas mileage is only about 5-10 over my corolla..
but that 5-10 makes a big diffrence.
The car i have gets 35mpg in city, highway 43? 44?

I am shocked at you Bella!

Why? Because I caught it before you? :wink:

Yes.

I must be getting old!

Driving habits are sure the cheapest thing to change. There's a limit to that too.

I think I have PMS, because I really should have caught that

good point roger..

Montana,

You've gotten very good advice from a lot of informed people. Now I want you to set your goals fom good advice to excellent adivice. Lest I be poopooed before I make a case, I am not telling you to buy anything. What I am suggesting is that you do yourself a big favor and just drive a new VW Jetta TDI or VW Passat TDI. Why? For the simple reaspon that the diesel engine is over a hundred years old and has reached close to perefection. And it gets better mileage than most hybrids.

My newest VW diesel is a 1996 VW Passat TDI. It has 252,000 miles on it. That's two hundred fifty two thousand miles and still gets about 45 miles to the gallon.
It has never required major work on the engine, starts in below zero weather and burns no oil.

After driving my diesle, two friends recently bought VW Jetta diesels. They are getting just under fifty miles to the gallon.

Don't listen to uninformed arguments. Just go drive one.

Did they get that diesel working in cold winters? She's in New Brunswick, and it gets cold enough to freeze salt water.

BF
THank you very much, but I am inteested in hearing how well it would work in a cold climate.

Montana,

"Diesels don't start in cold weather" is one of many myths about modern diesel engines. I mentioned in my post that my diesel started in below zero weather. Specifically, ten below zero. (Car left outdoors. No plug in or heating devices) Is that cold enough? Oil companies also winterize diesel fuel.

Why risk a true and tried, very high mileage engine for one that is quite controversial? Many Hybrid owners have complained that the promised mileage just isn't there.
Another concern that wasn't apparent is the electricity danger to rescue workers and passengers in case of an acccident. It seems that the hybrid system requires such high amounts of electricity, it is enough to kill a person who touches the electric lines.

Oh, well, I hope you will be happy with your choice of car. I was just suggesting that there is an alternative type of high mileage car.

hamburger had a diesel VW about 30/35 years ago. I don't recall it having any difficulty starting in minus 20/minus 30 celsius temps. He always got to work.

Here's an article on the
pros and cons.

And a review of the TDI Jetta.

It's not a bad option at all...I know I've seen and heard about diesels routinely getting 200-300K miles out of the engines.

<dumb question alert> isn't that sort of a minimum for most cars?

No, not really.

300K on the original engine isn't common. People do get it, but it's not common. For one, it's not on ANY car, because how I used to tell people who ask "how many miles can I get?" the engine usually outlasts the rest of the car. Unless you're driving A LOT, it's going to take many years to pile that mileage, and by then the car is overall going to be a piece of junk, even if the engine is still going. People don't usually hold on to cars for over 10 years.

Plus something major usually breaks before that mileage, and if the car is old with high miles, it's not generally worth spending money to repair. Head gasket goes, maybe you don't replace the timing belt, it breaks and throws the valves out of alignment.

Either way, diesel engines are known to last longer without major repairs, and are lower maintenance.

okey - I guess I'm just from a tribe of good car caregivers