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Are (MAGA republicans) and (Putin Republicans) one of the same?

 
 
Mon 6 Feb, 2023 04:45 pm
Are (MAGA republicans) and (Putin Republicans)
one of the same?
 
jcboy
 
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Mon 6 Feb, 2023 05:54 pm
@Real Music,
They are all uneducated bumpkins.
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joe 2nation
 
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Mon 6 Feb, 2023 08:16 pm
@oralloy,
What the hell is MAGA Democrat?

Joe(don't make me sorry I asked)Nation
oralloy
 
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Mon 6 Feb, 2023 08:20 pm
@joe 2nation,
I'm a Democrat who proudly supports Mr. Trump, voted for him in 2016 and 2020, and will vote for him in 2024.
izzythepush
 
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Tue 7 Feb, 2023 02:27 am
@joe 2nation,
joe 2nation wrote:

What the hell is MAGA Democrat?



Well confused.
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engineer
 
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Tue 7 Feb, 2023 07:40 am
@joe 2nation,
Someone who grew up in the party but hasn't voted Democrat in a while. It's more a cultural affiliation than a political one.
oralloy
 
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Tue 7 Feb, 2023 07:51 am
@engineer,
I agree with the Democrats on many issues. Better regulations for example. And lots of social spending paid for with taxes on the wealthy.

But I disagree with the left's bottomless well of hatred for anyone who doesn't agree with them, and their endless witch hunts against all who oppose them. And I oppose their efforts to violate the Second Amendment (especially since they try to violate it for no reason).

It is mostly true that I've not voted for any Democrat in a general election since the 2008 presidential primary. When the Democrats disenfranchised me I said I was going to vote for Republicans from there on out, and I always mean what I say.

There has been only one exception to that. One specific Democrat did something that I really liked. So I voted for them one time. Otherwise I've been doing a lot of voting for Republicans over the past decade. I even track down which nonpartisan judicial candidates are Republicans so I can vote for Republican judges.
Lash
 
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Tue 7 Feb, 2023 09:06 am
It’s become impossible to track logically any lines of reliable division between the current political groups in the US. There is currently a concerted effort to lay aside most political differences in order to unite around an anti-war, pro-worker voting bloc so that we can destroy the current toxic authoritarian alliance between the media, spook agencies, and the DNC.

A Green-aligned party and the Libertarian Party’s first joint anti-war protest features speakers ranging from several points on the political spectrum.

Feb 19 on the steps of the Lincoln monument.
engineer
 
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Tue 7 Feb, 2023 10:14 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
It is mostly true that I've not voted for any Democrat in a general election since the 2008 presidential primary. When the Democrats disenfranchised me I said I was going to vote for Republicans from there on out, and I always mean what I say.

There has been only one exception to that. One specific Democrat did something that I really liked. So I voted for them one time. Otherwise I've been doing a lot of voting for Republicans over the past decade. I even track down which nonpartisan judicial candidates are Republicans so I can vote for Republican judges.

Then you're a Republican. Saying you're a Democrat is like saying your favorite food is Mexican but you haven't eaten at a Mexican restaurant in a decade, you mostly eat Italian and you research restaurants to make sure you only pick Italian ones.
InfraBlue
 
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Tue 7 Feb, 2023 05:33 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

It’s become impossible to track logically any lines of reliable division between the current political groups in the US.

Which political groups are those, specifically?
izzythepush
 
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Tue 7 Feb, 2023 06:15 pm
@engineer,
Only Oralloy can be disenfranchised yet still able to vote Republican.

I don't think he knows what it means.

I suppose it sounds a bit like a tick bath.

Can't fault the Democrats for that.
oralloy
 
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Tue 7 Feb, 2023 07:41 pm
@izzythepush,
No, the Democratic Party disenfranchised every Democrat in the state of Michigan. I'm just the only one who objected to being disenfranchised.

If I don't know what something means, I will ask questions. "No questions from me" means that I fully understand everything.
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oralloy
 
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Tue 7 Feb, 2023 07:44 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:
Then you're a Republican.

No. I'm a conservative Democrat. Use Senator Manchin as an example if you are having trouble fitting me into a category.

Or just look at my chosen avatar.
engineer
 
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Wed 8 Feb, 2023 06:44 am
@oralloy,
But you have vowed to never vote for a Democrat, including Manchin, right? (Assuming you were in his state of course.)
glitterbag
 
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Wed 8 Feb, 2023 08:28 am
@engineer,
He's afraid Manchin might talk to a progressive or one of those Deep Staters.
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Lash
 
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Wed 8 Feb, 2023 09:06 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

Lash wrote:

It’s become impossible to track logically any lines of reliable division between the current political groups in the US.

Which political groups are those, specifically?

Democrats, progressives, DSA, Socialists, Green Party, Workers Strike Party, People’s Party, Independent party, liberals, Libertarian party

These are just the ones I know of that either say they are—or actually seem to be—left-ish.

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oralloy
 
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Wed 8 Feb, 2023 12:35 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:
But you have vowed to never vote for a Democrat, including Manchin, right? (Assuming you were in his state of course.)

Yes. This was a consequence of the Democrats disenfranchising me.

I might revert to my previous policy of "voting for whoever the NRA says to vote for" now that the Democrats are moving Michigan to the front of the primaries.

Democrats shouldn't be screwing with the Republican primary schedule though. That's not right.
engineer
 
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Wed 8 Feb, 2023 01:34 pm
@oralloy,
Of course, you can refer to yourself however you want, but arguing that you are a member of a party that you will never vote for and that doesn't align with your views on the only subject that will decide your vote is just self-deception. Regardless of your beliefs on other issues, you are a single-issue voter and that issue aligns with Republicans or Libertarians, not Democrats. That you've ceded your vote proxy to the NRA means you have essentially abandoned any party.
 

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