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The Official a2k Bitcoin Schadenfreude Club

 
 
Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2022 11:53 am
Hochul signs partial cryptocurrency mining ban into New York law
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ALBANY, N.Y. — New York will instate a two-year moratorium on new fossil fuel-powered cryptocurrency mining operations as the state works to balance its economic development and climate goals.

Gov. Kathy Hochul on Tuesday signed the controversial measure into law that would create the first-in-the-nation temporary pause on new permits for fossil fuel power plants that house proof-of-work cryptocurrency mining, which is a process used in the transaction of digital money. Hochul, who had punted on the issue for months after the Legislature passed the bill in June, was elected to a full term Nov. 8.

Upstate New York has become attractive to companies that “mine” digital currencies, including Bitcoin, because of the availability of former power plants and manufacturing sites with unused electrical infrastructure. But Hochul said that the moratorium is an important step to avoid increased emissions from the industry restarting old power plants as she guides the state toward ambitious climate goals.

and
Wringing its hands over FTX's collapse, Washington hopes to prevent more crypto pain
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New uses for old laws
Thousands of FTX's customers are desperately trying to recover money that may be gone for good and the whole world is anxious to contain any damage from the multi-tentacled crypto exchange's bankruptcy.

As lawmakers debate how to respond, regulators and law enforcement agencies have started investigations into the company, once valued at tens of billions of dollars.

The new CEO of FTX has fielded "numerous inquiries" from the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), and federal prosecutors, according to a court filing.

But when it comes to digital assets, including cryptocurrencies, bureaucrats are locked in a turf war over who is responsible for overseeing what.

The CFTC, top cop for the multi-trillion-dollar derivatives market, argues it should regulate bitcoin.

 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2022 06:18 pm
For me it was sour grapes. Till now. I can almost say, "See? Tol' ya so!".

For me it was sour grapes, but sometimes there's a benefit to not having money at the time.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 04:30 am
I was hoping bitcoin would have more volatility than it has had. More peaks and valleys means more opportunities to buy low and sell high.

I was able to triple what I made from mining by buying and selling at the right moments, but I would have made much more had I not played it safe.

Of course, playing it safe also protected me from greater risk of losing money. Anyway, let's hope there are more peaks and valleys in the future.
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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2023 06:56 am
The Crypto Collapse and the End of the Magical Thinking That Infected Capitalism

Mihir A. Desai wrote:
At a guest lecture at a military academy when the price of a single Bitcoin neared $60,000, I was asked, as finance professors often are, what I thought about cryptocurrencies. Rather than respond with my usual skepticism, I polled the students. More than half of attendees had traded cryptocurrencies, often financed by loans.

I was stunned. How could this population of young people come to spend time and energy in this way? And these students were hardly alone. The appetite for crypto has been most pronounced among Gen Z and millennials. Those groups became investors in the past 15 years at previously unseen rates and with exceedingly optimistic expectations.

I have come to view cryptocurrencies not simply as exotic assets but as a manifestation of a magical thinking that had come to infect part of the generation who grew up in the aftermath of the Great Recession — and American capitalism, more broadly.

For these purposes, magical thinking is the assumption that favored conditions will continue on forever without regard for history. It is the minimizing of constraints and trade-offs in favor of techno-utopianism and the exclusive emphasis on positive outcomes and novelty. It is the conflation of virtue with commerce.

Where did this ideology come from? An exceptional period of low interest rates and excess liquidity provided the fertile soil for fantastical dreams to flourish. Pervasive consumer-facing technology allowed individuals to believe that the latest platform company or arrogant tech entrepreneur could change everything. Anger after the 2008 global financial crisis created a receptivity to radical economic solutions, and disappointment with traditional politics displaced social ambitions onto the world of commerce. The hothouse of Covid’s peaks turbocharged all these impulses as we sat bored in front of screens, fueled by seemingly free money.

With Bitcoin now trading at around $17,000, and amid declining stock valuations and tech sector layoffs, these ideas have begun to crack. The unwinding of magical thinking will dominate this decade in painful but ultimately restorative ways — and that unwinding will be most painful to the generation conditioned to believe these fantasies.

Cryptocurrency is the most ideal vessel of these impulses. A speculative asset with a tenuous underlying predetermined value provides a blank slate that meaning can be imposed onto. Crypto boosters have promised to replace governments by supplanting traditional currencies. They vowed to reject the traditional banking and financial system through decentralized finance. They said they could reject the purported stranglehold of internet giants on commerce through something called Web 3.0. They insisted we could reject the traditional path toward success of education, savings and investment by getting in early on dogecoin, a meme coin intended as a joke that reached a peak market capitalization of over $80 billion.

These illusory and ridiculous promises share a common anti-establishment sentiment fueled by a technology that most of us never understood. Who needs governments, banks, the traditional internet or homespun wisdom when we can operate above and beyond?

Mainstream financial markets came to manifest these same tendencies, as magical thinking pervaded the wider investor class. During a period of declining and zero interest rates, mistakes and mediocrities were obscured or forgiven, while speculative assets with low probabilities of far-off success inflated in value enormously. Hawkers pitching shiny new vehicles — like “stablecoins” that purportedly transformed speculative assets into stable ones and novel ways of taking companies public without typical regulatory scrutiny — promised greater returns while dismissing greater risks, a hallmark of the ignorance of trade-offs in magical thinking. For an extended period, many investors bought the equivalent of lottery tickets. And many won.

The real economy could not escape infection. Companies flourished by inflating their scope and ambition to feed the desire for magical thinking. WeWork, a mundane business that provided flexible work spaces, was portrayed as a spiritual enterprise that would remake the human condition. Its valuation soared, obscuring the questionable activities of its founders. Facebook and Google reconceived themselves as technological powerhouses, rebranding as Meta and Alphabet, respectively. They sought broad capabilities that they could flex at will in the metaverse or with their “moonshot projects” when, in fact, they are prosaic (if extremely effective) advertising businesses. They are now struggling with many of their fantastical efforts.

Most broadly, many corporations have come to embrace broader social missions in response to the desire of younger investors and employees to use their capital and employment as instruments for social change. Another manifestation of magical thinking is believing that the best hope for progress on our greatest challenges — climate change, racial injustice and economic inequality — are corporations and individual investment and consumption choices, rather than political mobilization and our communities.

I confess that this screed reflects my own experience. For the past decade, being a finance professor meant being asked about crypto or about novel valuation methods for unprofitable companies — and being smiled at (and ignored) when I would counter with traditional instincts. Every business problem, I am told, can be solved in radically new and effective ways by applying artificial intelligence to ever-increasing amounts of data with a dash of design thinking. Many graduates coming of age in this period of financial giddiness and widening corporate ambition have been taught to chase these glittery objects with their human and financial capital instead of investing in sustainable paths — a habit that will be harder to instill at later ages.

Embracing novelty and ambition in the face of huge problems is to be lauded, but the unhinged variety of these admirable traits that we have seen so much of in recent years is counterproductive. The fundamentals of business have not changed merely because of new technologies or low interest rates. The way to prosper is still by solving problems in new ways that sustainably deliver value to employees, capital providers and customers. Over-promising the scope of change created by technology and the possibilities of business and finance to a new generation will lead only to disaffection as these promises falter. All those new investors and crypto owners may nurse a grudge against capitalism, rather than understand the perverse world they were born into.

The end of magical thinking is upon us as cryptocurrencies and valuations are collapsing — and that is good news. Vested interests will resist that trend by continuing to propagate fictions. But rising rates and a return to more routine business cycles will continue to provide the rude awakening that began in 2022.

What comes next? Hopefully, a revitalization of that great American tradition of pragmatism will follow. Speculative assets without any economic function should be worth nothing. Existing institutions, flawed as they are, should be improved upon rather than being displaced. Risk and return are inevitably linked.

Corporations are valuable socially because they solve problems and generate wealth. But they should not be trusted as arbiters of progress and should be balanced by a state that mediates political questions. Trade-offs are everywhere and inescapable. Navigating these trade-offs, rather than ignoring them, is the recipe for a good life.

nyt
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2023 06:55 pm
@hightor,
It has started trending upwards again.

Not high enough for me to sell yet though.

Hopefully there will be a lot more volatility. If I buy low and sell high enough times I will end up with a sizable nest egg.
roger
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2023 09:44 pm
@oralloy,
I think it was Will Rogers speaking of the stock market that said, "buy it when it's low, sell it when it goes up. If it don't go up, don't buy it.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2023 10:17 pm
@roger,
Unfortunately it is hard to see into the future and know what will or will not go up.

But hopefully there will be lots of bitcoin volatility. If I can double or triple my money over and over and over again, sooner or later it will end up a substantial sum.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Wed 2 Aug, 2023 11:43 am
Since you can't embed YouTube Shorts.

An Old-Timey Prospector Who's Getting Into Crypto ('Make Some Noise' clip)

It's great that Brennan Lee Mulligan gives up halfway through his improv turn to just crap all over the corrupt sewerage that's cryptocurrency.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 28 Mar, 2024 10:34 am

Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in federal prison
(cnn)

he effed around and found out...




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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2024 03:42 pm
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2024 06:49 am
@tsarstepan,
Libertarians are the generally terrible. Bitcoin libertarians (insanely redundant??) are even worse.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jul, 2024 03:21 pm
Another Trumpian conjob:
Trump Bitcoin Sneakers
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2024 10:17 am
@tsarstepan,
Turns out Martin Shkreli copied his $2M Wu-Tang album—and sent it to “50 different chicks”
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The album was truly "one of a kind," a protest against the devaluation of music in the digital age and the kind of fascinating curio that instantly made its owners into "interesting people." The album came as a two-CD set inside a nickel and silver box inscribed with the Wu-Tang logo, and the full package included a pair of customized audio speakers and a 174-page leather book featuring lyrics and "anecdotes on the production."
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 19 Sep, 2024 06:54 am
@tsarstepan,
Slip to 1:17 for the relevant Trump cryptocurrency scam:

The weed dealing felon in which Trump has running World Liberty Financial, admitted that cryptocurrency is a scam to be sold to stupid people.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sun 15 Dec, 2024 11:43 am
@tsarstepan,
jespah
 
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Reply Sun 15 Dec, 2024 02:48 pm
@tsarstepan,
Wow, who could have possibly predicted that a sketchy investment in a sketchy "asset" associated with a Z-list celebrity who's grasping for an extra 3 minutes of fame could possibly ever cheat someone???
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