mysteryman wrote:So SET,
By your own admission,the UN troops did NOTHING to try and prevent the massacre. They allowed the Serb troops to enter the towmn without doing anything to try to stop them. They surrendered without firing a shot.
The Dutch
did not surrender without firing a shot--they were rounded up because their orders prohibited them from firing on the VRS, who knew that was the case. Precisely how do you propose that an infantry battalion, reduced by one third as its men are kidnapped, with light infantry weapons, stop tanks and self-propelled artillery? The VRS were smart enough not to slaughter the Dutch outright, so they would not bring the UN, or worse yet, NATO, down on their heads. They kept them as hostages to prevent UN intervention. You have erected another straw man.
Quote:Even outnumbered,they had a duty and an obligation to defend those civilians. They refused to do that. That makes them guilty.
That's a bullshit statement, prove it. Do you propose that the Dutch refused to defend more than 20,000 people despite an obligation to do so? That's crap, their rules of engagement forbad them from firing on VRS forces.
Quote:I noticed you said nothing about the UN troops in Africa,or the UN troops that allowed an American officer to be kidnapped and killed in Israel. The UN troops took video of that event.
I did mention what the Canadians had to put up with in Rwanda, and i don't intend to go into detail about that incident. Once again, when the US, Russia and China are not involved, and without a Security Council resolution, Peacekeepers can do nothing in these situations. Your hatefulness is amazing.
Quote:As far as I'm concerned,we give the UN 2 choices.
They make the reforms we demand,or we pull out of the UN,we stop all of our funding of the UN and its programs,and we throw them out of the US.
That land is a nice parcel of real estate,and it could be put to better use.
This is very ironic, when i consider how often conservatives here spew hatred about how nothing was done to stop Mussolini and Hitler. Without the United States, the League of Nations had no credibility, and could do nothing to stop Mussolini in Abyssinia. When Chamberlain backed down in Munich, Hitler knew he had a free hand. Our war in the Pacific started precisely because FDR would not back down after the Japanese invaded Manchuria, and he started an embargo of scrap metal and fuel oil to Japan that lead inevitably to war. So now you propose to scarp an organization started by the United States with the express purpose of defeating Germany and Japan, and preventing such a world war from ever happening again. Just how do you suppose that will promote peace and stability in the world?
The narrow-minded hatefulness of conservatives who rant about the UN is idiotic.
