Another Devastating School Shooting: Uvalde, Texas

It's unrelenting and suffocating.

My heart just breaks for these poor children who were slaughtered and for their families. Unfortunately this won’t be the last massacre unless we make changes. People were too worried about which bathroom a transgendered student could use and not worried enough about students being murdered at school with insane gun laws.

https://able2know.org/topic/555216-360#post-7231159

He definitely hit the nail on the head.

I've been reading about forty cops were there, afraid to go in. People on the outside could hear the kids screaming and being murdered. Only after some parents decided to go in on their own did the cops move. According to what I read the shooter was in there for 90 minutes.

So there were no good guys with guns???

Here's a scenario focused on ending the problem of gun violence in the USA:

The country goes through a number of election cycles and a strong liberal House and Senate are in office with a liberal Democrat as president. The 6-3 conservative/liberal division on the Supreme Court is replaced with a 6-3 liberal/conservative mix under Chief Justice Sotomayor. Several states pass restrictive gun laws with the idea that they will be taken to court. The suit makes its way through the system and ends up in the Supreme Court.

The justices reinterpret the 2nd Amendment, reestablishing the former prevailing understanding that the Constitution does not grant an individual right to bear arms, as the amendment clearly mentions a "militia". Military style weapons are outlawed for civilian ownership and use. Individuals who wish to keep an approved weapon in their home, car, or pocket will need to be trained, licensed, and their gun registered. No semi-auto will be allowed to have a magazine capacity of more than 6 rounds. No military look-alikes will be allowed, and the selection of available firearms will be reduced to a few different hunting and target rifles, some shotguns, and revolvers chambered for 38 Special.

Anyone who really wanted to acquire proficiency on a military-styled weapon would simply sign up for active duty in the armed forces or National Guard (militia). Illegal weapons would be confiscated if carried beyond the front door of one's home. The ammunition commonly associated with military-styled weapons would be unavailable to civilians.

You get the picture.

The only trouble is that I don't think the climate crisis will provide us with the luxury of a civil society and a functional democracy. Catastrophic situations tend to be exploited by demagogues and we'll all be scrambling to secure our own AR15.

The only way an 18 year old could get those weapons over here is illegally, and ghat would never happen.

The criminal networks that control the underground supply of guns over here would never let someone like that have any gun let alone an assault rifle, because of the risk of it coming back to bite them on the arse.

It is true that in our society only the criminals have guns, but they're a lot more responsible in what they do with them than the law abiding gun sellers over ghere.

A sickening delay: Video shows parents begging police to help as shots ring out in Uvalde
https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/nicole-russell/article261819415.html

Horrible - I have heard some mixed things though - where some police were in the back breaking windows to get kids out; that some police responded and were met with gun fire from the assailant, and then they were given a stay in place order - but who knows at this point, these could just be more unsubstantiated reports. I do hope this is true - because the alternative is just too horrible to even fathom.

Ugg after reading more recent updates this is f* up. Sounds like (at least on the surface) the local police were told to wait for this tactical team to arrive - this is different than what should take place

"...standard police practice after the 1999 Columbine High School massacre, which states that the first officers on the scene should do whatever they can to stop an attack without waiting for backup..."

I am so sicken by this.

And scary as my daughter is likely going into teaching young children.

I don’t claim to be knowledgeable about such a situation, however, these officials seem incompetent, defensive and untrained. DNA test had to be done on these precious children because they were blown apart by an assault riffle. We're a pretty screwed up country for allowing such weapons on the street.

This goes beyond any rights even if you support the right to bare arms -- there is no reason anyone needs an assault weapon. When the amendments were first put into play there were no assault weapons - there were pistols and rifles. I do not think our founding fathers were anticipating this sort of weapon being in place as part of this.

My husband is a marine and he says there is no reason for this. What the heck is this sort of weapon for but killing and doing the most possible damage in as short amount of time as is possible. It is not for hunting? Or even if you wanted personal protection.

Nothing will change, handwringing to the max but nothing will change.

Yeah. I own more than one handgun, but no way could I justify assault weapons.

1. "Alienation" or To be alienated is the reason why
2. Brainwashing

You have people who do things ( like any military or police or agency ) that are clearly wrong, not logical, and self-destructive to the world around them.

I do not blame the gun, I blame the method of thinking,

This is why police and agents needs psychological evaluations ( no different then military being decommissioned ) and under cover agents needs to be placed within these agencies/police/military in order to weed out these problematic people, keep them away from such positions, and actually give them careers and jobs where they can flourish without being around violence.

This could be applied to anybody or any scenario involving unnecessary violence. George Floyd, Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Akai Gurley, Tamir Rice, Philando Castile, Freddy Grey, Stephon Clark, Botham Jean, Stephon Clark, Atatiana Jefferson, Breonna Taylor

The above more or less these officers need psychological examinations.
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When we talk about any shootings of any sort it is usually because of lack of interaction, families, and loved-ones. That would slove most of these problems when it comes to loss of life.

Companionship is not about people being fat, skinny, or fit, nor is about income or ability to make income. It is the fact that young men needs the opposite sex to function far before young women realize it. That is my solution to all of these school shooting problems. Parents being ignorant, cheap, selfish, ignoring the priority of their little man in the house.

For instance in terms of solution. I do not care if somebodies wife is living in somebodies room or some wayward young girl is somebodies apartment, or basement. Point being is that if people was to have somebody in their lives and get along most of these shootings would not occur.

Yes I could see a domestic issue with women being taught to discriminate men, but again it is all about men and that being said all of these cases are no different then somebody having a late abortion.

Again 18yo, nice long hair, talking to a girl, and then gets into an argument with some nanny spinster-finster. I bet this elderly witch is the reason why he did it. Just like Sandy Hook. Well educated young man into IT and videogames under the power of a divorcee. Father said "If I could kill him I would" ( because that is the kind of selfishness, unrighteous scum we have in the world ).

(I'm so thankful that oralloy isn't here.)

I checked those forums O linked to in his profile, to see if he is saying anything constructive at all about the recent shooting(s).

Not at all. It is mostly "protect civil liberties (AKA gun rights only)", "progressives are evil", "everything I say is the truth", "NRA has final say on gun control", and absolutely zero empathy towards the victims.