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Putin's war

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 23 Mar, 2022 04:53 pm

What If Russia Makes a Deal?

How to End a War That No One Is Likely to Win (though my money is on the Ukrainians.)


By Liana Fix and Michael Kimmage
March 23, 2022

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ukraine/2022-03-23/what-if-russia-makes-deal?utm_source=pocket-newtab


The twentieth century’s two world wars are an endless source of precedents and analogies. The lead-up to World War II produced the Munich analogy, an allusion to the 1938 British and French decision to permit Nazi Germany to annex part of Czechoslovakia. “Munich” has become shorthand for “appeasement.” The aftermath of the war produced the Nuremberg analogy, a reference to the public trials of the surviving leaders of the utterly defeated Nazi regime. “Nuremberg” now stands for “unconditional surrender.”

By contrast, the conclusion of World War I had been unclear and incomplete. Berlin did not fall in November 1918. Instead, the government waging the war dissolved; Kaiser Wilhelm went into exile. The harsh terms of the peace—the reparations and the attribution of guilt to Germany—became the preconditions for Adolf Hitler’s rise and for the outbreak of World War II. This is the story of “Versailles”: shorthand for a peace agreement that begets further war.

The question now is what kind of ending Europe’s first major twenty-first-century war will feature. The Roman statesman and scholar Cicero argued that an unjust peace is better than a just war. Ongoing negotiations between Ukraine and Russia will put that proposition to the test.

The Ukrainians’ brave resistance has halted the Russian advance. In ordering an invasion of Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin acted impulsively. Were he now to think strategically, he would cut his losses and look for a way to finish the war. His larger political aims are already out of reach. He cannot control Ukraine and will struggle to partition a country opposed to Russian occupation. Moscow has only an expensive and forbidding military path ahead of it, which together with sanctions will place sizable burdens on Putin’s regime. But whatever happens in Ukraine, Russia will still be a nuclear power, and it will retain Europe’s largest conventional military.

In this war, there will be no Munich, no Nuremberg, and no Versailles.

Ukraine has mounted a formidable defense, but it cannot reverse Russia’s overall military dominance or stop its shelling and bombing of civilians and of military targets. Ukraine’s diplomatic balancing act—between retaining its sovereignty and terminating a cruel war—will be exceptionally difficult. Weapons from the United States and its European allies will strengthen Ukraine’s negotiation position. But without their direct involvement in the war, which is not going to materialize, Ukraine will not enjoy an outright victory and Russia will not suffer an outright defeat.

If they reach a negotiated deal, Ukraine and Russia will both have to settle for partial and fragile gains. In this war, there will be no Munich, no Nuremberg, and no Versailles.

Recent history provides another (not very encouraging) analogy for the parties: the Minsk analogy, which alludes to the agreements negotiated in that Belarusian city in 2014 and 2015 in a bid to end fighting between Ukraine and Russian-backed separatists that was the prequel to the current war. Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine proved the inadequacy of the Minsk agreements, which represented a form of crisis management that irritated everyone and satisfied no one, deferring and perhaps even exacerbating Ukraine’s fundamental problems.

The United States and Europe are not at war with Russia and cannot apply either the Nuremberg or the Versailles models to this particular European conflict. Their mission, thus, is to do better than Minsk. Western sanctions on Russia and military assistance for Ukraine provide genuine leverage. Washington and its European allies should use and expand this leverage in proportion to Russia’s continuing violations of Ukrainian sovereignty. The transatlantic alliance can dictate nothing to Putin. It can only assist Ukraine in navigating its way to a probably unsatisfactory peace. This humbling reality must be the starting point for policy and diplomacy.
WHY MINSK FAILED

Through the Minsk negotiations, Putin was hoping to ensure Ukrainian neutrality on Russian terms and to compromise Ukrainian sovereignty by creating a semiautonomous zone in the country’s east. Instead, after the Minsk agreements were hammered out, Ukraine forged closer and closer ties with the United States, NATO, and western European countries. A line of contact formed in country’s east between Ukraine proper and a netherland under Russian control. At considerable cost, Russia had acquired territory that gave it no real leverage over Ukraine’s geopolitical future.

Meanwhile, the United States and European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, pledging not to lift them until Russia withdrew its military from eastern Ukraine and ended the war, even though Russia remained unvanquished on the battlefield. Putin could not normalize relations with the United States and its allies unless he implemented the Minsk accords on their terms, which he had no intention of doing. But the sanctions were not destabilizing for Russia, and were not powerful enough to coerce Moscow accept the West’s terms.

Minsk’s failure has many authors. The signatories to the agreements were France, Germany, Russia, and Ukraine. Paris and Berlin were rhetorically committed to the deal but did little to enforce it, and the effect of sanctions weakened with each passing year. Washington was equally complacent and lazy. U.S. military assistance flowed into Ukraine when the administration of President Donald Trump agreed to provide lethal military aid—with enough strings attached for Trump to get impeached for his manipulative relations with Ukraine. Yet despite earlier promises, Ukraine was never given the opportunity to join NATO or any other alliance: no treaty commitment from the United States or from another major outside power ever emerged.

Putin’s invasion of Ukraine in February was driven by a revanchist vision of Ukraine’s historical ties to Russia and from his self-appointed mission to terminate Ukrainian statehood. But the invasion was also inspired by Putin’s more practical frustration with Minsk. Although the Russian military had won its battles in 2014 and 2015, the Kremlin was losing the war for Ukraine’s future. Putin believed that swiftly toppling the government in Kyiv would transform this state of affairs and pull Ukraine back toward Russia, punishing Kyiv’s European and U.S. partners. As he saw it, an invasion would not result in a wider war because Europe and the United States were only superficially committed to Ukraine. Had they been truly committed, they would not have let Minsk lapse into irrelevance.


BROKEN PROMISES

Ukraine’s surprise success has made the Kremlin rethink its war aims. Putin began the invasion with the maximalist goal of toppling the Ukrainian government. The point of the war was to “de-Nazify” Ukraine, in Putin’s bizarre parlance, which meant regime change. Given Russia’s immense battlefield losses, taking Kyiv may have become impossible for Russian forces, and by scaling back talk of the de-Nazification, Putin has signaled that he might accept Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s government as a legitimate counterpart in negotiations. But this may also be a trap for Kyiv, a pause before Russia returns to an escalatory set of demands. Putin will at any rate use whatever territory that Russian forces have occupied in recent weeks as a bargaining chip.

Putin likely has three core aims at this point. One is to formalize Crimea’s incorporation into Russia, a signature achievement of his presidency in Putin’s eyes. Perhaps the annexation of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, only a part of which were occupied before the 2022 invasion, will get folded into this demand. Relatedly, Russia may also push for a land bridge from Moldova to Mariupol, depending on how the war goes.

A second aim is to establish Ukraine’s neutrality, which could mean either its inability to join NATO and to enter into the treaty alliances of its choosing or its “demilitarization,” as Putin has put it, presumably the elimination of its military capacity. Indeed, Putin might seek both of those outcomes. In a less drastic scenario, neutrality could also mean limitations on certain weapons systems and the prohibition of foreign bases in Ukraine. Finally, Putin will want to constrain or to block Ukraine’s integration into European institutions, especially those tied to the European Union.

Zelensky will have to measure an unjust peace against a just but devastating war.

For his part, Zelensky wants to secure his country’s full sovereignty and autonomy. In theory, this would entail the withdrawal of all Russian troops from Ukraine, the return of Crimea to Ukraine, and the freedom to deepen economic relationships with the United States and Europe. Those outcomes, however, would require Russia to lose the war. Whereas Putin cannot be trusted to honor the documents he signs and should not be given concessions for his criminal war, he cannot be removed from the negotiations. Russia has at its disposal the threat of chemical and biological weapons and tactical nuclear weapons, not to mention the application of further conventional military force. Under this dark shadow, Zelensky must determine the degree of compromise he can condone and that Ukrainian citizens will accept. He will have to measure the imperatives of an unjust peace against those of a just but devastating war.

Zelensky has some leeway on Crimea and NATO membership. Russia’s annexation of Crimea was an illegal violation of Ukrainian sovereignty. Yet Russia, and not just Putin’s Russia, is unlikely to ever return it to Ukraine. Also, Crimea may matter less to Ukrainians than other parts of the country currently under Russia’s partial control, which could make a de facto acceptance of Russian control easier. And although NATO may decide to accept Sweden or Finland as members, it will not accept Ukraine—despite prior promises to do so. Zelensky has indicated his willingness to consider alternatives besides NATO membership, and has asked the West for security guarantees—that is, promises to enforce any potential agreement with Russia, ensuring that any deal would not amount to empty words.

For Kyiv, legally binding security guarantees—involving the United States, Russia, European countries, and potentially Turkey, as well—are crucial. Such guarantees would be the equivalent of extending NATO’s Article 5 to Ukraine: committing to go to war if Ukraine’s sovereignty or the terms of any potential agreement between Ukraine and Russia were violated. Such a pledge would certainly be a dramatic and precedent-defying step for the United States and its allies, which have tried to avoid being dragged into the war. Putin may not agree to it—or he may not agree to it in good faith. But binding guarantees—in contrast to the unenforced Budapest memorandum of 1994, which Russia first violated in 2014 by seizing Crimea—would furnish all sides with a solution to the essential problem of Ukraine’s security. Real bilateral or multilateral security guarantees would be better than NATO’s policy of having an open door in general but a closed door for Ukraine. Putin could sell this solution—the foreclosure of any chance that Ukraine would ever join NATO—as a win. At the same time, a U.S.-backed security guarantee to Ukraine could deter Russia from attacking Ukraine again.


YOU CAN’T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT

Perhaps the parties will strike a grand bargain favorable to Ukraine, if Russia continues significant battlefield losses. More likely, however, this war will admit no easily sustainable peace. If Russia yields, it will probably yield to a provisional peace. Putin does not seem capable of learning from his mistakes. Yet a provisional peace that preserves Zelensky’s government, brings about a lasting cease-fire, and does not permanently infringe on Ukraine’s independence, sovereignty, and autonomy (as Kyiv defines the terms) may be attainable. As unjust as it would be, it is preferable to all the actual alternatives.

The war has rendered Russia’s foreign policy untenable. Putin is pursuing ambitions that the Russian economy and the Russian polity will not be able to realize. Although Putin will not fundamentally recalibrate, Russia cannot escape the fact that its ends outstrip its means. At some point, Putin will meet his political Waterloo as a result of this war. And when the consequences of his overreach descend on Moscow and the dictator departs, Ukraine’s chance for a peace that is more than provisional may at long last come into view.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 23 Mar, 2022 07:52 pm
Manafort is the key to the whole Putin/Trump/Ukraine plot.
That's why his passport is revoked.


2004: Manafort installs Putin puppet Yanukovych in Ukraine.
2004: Yanukovych is driven out of Ukraine by the people.
2010: Manafort installs Putin puppet Yanukovych in Ukraine.
2014: Yanukovych is driven out of Ukraine by the people.
2015: Manafort, Trump Tower Tenant, offers to work for Trump's campaign for FREE.
2016: Manafort and Trump secretly hack the RNC Platform to remove support for Ukraine.
2016: Manafort and Putin install Putin Puppet Trump in the US.
2017-2020: Trump spends four years trying to destroy NATO, Ukraine's chief ally.
2019: Putin gets Trump to blackmail Ukraine and withhold military aid.
2020: Trump pardons Manafort for financial crimes.
2020: Trump is driven from power by the people.
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coluber2001
 
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Wed 23 Mar, 2022 10:37 pm
Putin just made the case for a European army

Opinion by David A. Andelman
Updated 12:10 PM EDT, Wed March 23, 2022

(CNN)Four years ago, French President Emmanuel Macron, newly arrived in office, proposed a European Defense Force -- a counterweight to a NATO alliance he and increasingly other EU leaders feared was being effectively held hostage by the United States and especially Donald Trump.

The result at the time was a rupture between Trump and Macron, followed by the French leader's rapprochement with then-German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Still, Macron's idea went no further. Until now.

On Thursday, it will come to fruition. With Macron in the driver's seat as France holds the rotating presidency of the European Union, the vehicle is called the "Strategic Compass." This blueprint for Europe's security strategy, ratified Monday by the bloc's defense ministers, sets out a context and concept in the strongest, even belligerent language. "We are adopting this," the report begins, "at a time when we witness the return of war in Europe" -- with these words boldfaced.

aggression constitutes a tectonic shift in European history. The EU is more united than ever in the face of Russia's unprovoked and unjustified military aggression against Ukraine."

The document then goes on to recite the broad scope of challenges to the security of Europe, but equally in regions where Europe has profound interests from the Middle East and Gulf region across Africa to the Asia Pacific region, even Latin America. Many of these challenges are traced to "increasing foreign interferences" with their roots in the Kremlin.

To cope with all of this, Europe now intends to act, in unison and with determination, to build a powerful military-industrial structure that can spring into action whenever and wherever the collective or even individual interests may be threatened.

Until now, Europe's defense relied on a curious mix of NATO power -- for the nations in the alliance -- to national armies of every conceivable level of competence and funding. All these report, largely, to a national commander. Now, under the Strategic Compass, there will be a single unified command. There is also anticipated to be a close partnership with NATO, the United Nations and the G-7 that includes Canada and Japan, according to the blueprint. All EU nations, NATO and non-NATO alike, will be part of the Strategic Compass.

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While Ukraine is not a member of the EU, though it is an aspirant, there is nothing in the Strategic Compass that in theory -- unlike NATO -- would bar any such European armed forces from acting, should the bloc believe its security is being challenged.

As for the immediate crisis in Ukraine however, it would likely not result in direct armed intervention by any European forces -- especially since it could take a year or more for the mechanism to be established even after its ratification this week.

That said, this year Europe will agree on "operational scenarios" for a 5,000-member "EU Rapid Deployment Capacity" that will begin "regular live exercises," with full deployment by 2025, according to the report. All branches of the military of member countries -- land, air, sea and civilian defense -- will be mobilized and integrated into these efforts, it added.

None of this can be good news for Russian President Vladimir Putin. His hope was that an invasion of Ukraine would be met with discordant reactions -- dividing large nations from small, East from West and those with deep reliance on trade with Russia and access to its natural resources, especially oil and gas, from those more capable of standing alone. And above all, that the war would divide the United States from Europe.

But as the Security Compass declares, again in boldface emphasis: "We are showing an unprecedented resolve to uphold the principles of the UN Charter and restore peace in Europe together with our partners."

With the drafting process beginning two years ago and accelerating into today's fifth and final draft, ballooning along the way from reportedly 28 pages to 47 pages, it's now become part of a broader pattern of making Putin pay. And a strong, united Europe with the military muscle to back it up is likely more than enough payment.

It seems likely that the Security Compass will fill some critical holes in Europe's overall ability to defend itself -- and the broad, often disparate interests of its 27-member nations. A handful of these, including Cyprus, Finland and Malta, are not in NATO and unlikely to be welcomed into the organization in the foreseeable future.

The broader fear among many NATO-member nations that they could be drawn into a war not of their own choosing, is one that does not find its place in the Strategic Compass document. Meanwhile, the existence of a provision in the NATO treaty holds an attack on one member is an attack on all, and every member could be required to respond.

That any expansion of the alliance, particularly to smaller nations bordering Russia -- Ukraine, Georgia or Moldova in particular -- could mean all are sucked into a wider war.

At the same time, the existence of a European-deployed military force could represent a standard by which to measure NATO and its defense capacities. Or certainly, calibrate Europe's defense relations with the United States. Where and how quickly, for instance, could this European force spring into action -- while a more cumbersome NATO, perhaps at the mercy of the US, its dominant member, might hesitate.

As President Macron told reporters last week as he unveiled his platform for reelection next month, he was determined "to try to make our country a more independent nation in a stronger Europe."

Third and perhaps most importantly -- for many NATO and non-NATO nations alike -- the Security Compass would effectively insulate the continent from the vicissitudes and inconsistencies of the American political system.

Amid Putin's catastrophic and increasingly barbaric invasion of Ukraine, the fear that Donald Trump and his temper tantrums over NATO's defense spending may not be permanently in the rearview mirror has certainly strengthened the case for a European army to call one's own.

What should be the response of NATO and especially the United States to what could be seen as a direct challenge to their 73-year maintenance of peace in Europe? Unquestioned and unquestionable support and encouragement of the foundations of the Strategic Compass.

It's clear that since NATO power and American diplomacy failed to intimidate Russia from launching, now prolonging and intensifying, the largest military attack on the European continent since the Second World War, it's time to bring other actors to the table.

Joe Biden has a unique opportunity to project America's support this week as he visits Europe's leaders who are slated to approve the Strategic Compass on their two-day summit meeting beginning Thursday.

Any wavering in that support can only be seen by Vladimir Putin and other challengers to the world order as a victory to be seized and exploited. This is the time to present a united front in whatever form it might take against autocracy and aggression now and in the future.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/23/opinions/european-army-defense-strategic-compass-putin-andelman/index.html
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 03:50 am
Violent explosions occurred at the port of the southern Ukrainian city of Berdyansk on Thursday morning. The Ukrainian newspaper "Ukrajinska Pravda" published pictures on its online portal showing flames several metres high and a huge column of smoke. According to the Ukrainian navy, a Russian landing ship was destroyed, as reported by the Uranian agency. It is said to have belonged to the Black Sea Fleet. The Russian side did not initially provide any information, and the reports could not be independently verified.

There was also talk on social media that an ammunition depot and a fuel tank had been destroyed in the port on the Sea of Azov occupied by Russian forces.

pravda.ua
Uranian Navy @ facebook
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Lash
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 06:50 am
Why in hell would a former Soviet state call their news Pravda. Sheesh.
hightor
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 06:52 am
@Lash,
Probably because it means "truth".
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 06:56 am
The memory of the wars is fading in Germany it seems (on the territory of Germany there were the wars of unification 1864, 1866, 1870/71, the 1st and the 2nd World War in the last 150 years.).

Quote:
Under the impression of Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine, 67 percent of Germans are in favour of Berlin continuing to get involved in international crises and not holding back - significantly more than in September 2021, when the figure was only 45 percent. This is shown by a survey conducted by the Körber Foundation in cooperation with Kantar Public, which SPIEGEL was able to analyse in advance ("The Berlin Pulse"; Körber Foundation; conducted by Kantar Public from 8 to 10 March 2022; 1020 respondents over the age of 18; range of variation +/- 1.4 to +/- 3.1 percentage points).
(translated from Spiegel)

The Berlin Pulse by the Körber Foundation (in German).
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Lash
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 07:04 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Probably because it means "truth".

Reminiscent of the famously untruthful Soviet newspaper by the same name.
Surprising choice.
hightor
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 07:11 am
@Lash,
Well, vocabulary cancel culture should be resisted. We still call ourselves a "democratic republic" even though the terms have often been hijacked by repressive states. I think they refer to it as "Ukrayinska Pravda" which helps distinguish it from the old Soviet rag.
Lash
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 07:13 am
@hightor,
I hear your opinion. Considering their history, I think it’s baffling that they used the term—under any circumstances.
hightor
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 07:19 am
@Lash,
I agree.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 07:51 am
@Lash,
Pravda Ukrainy was the official newspaper of the Communist Party of Ukraine.

Quote:
By the early 1990s Pravda Ukrainy had become the complete opposite of the original newspaper, having jettisoned its previous ideological commitments, and instead embracing democratic principles, independent journalism, and an unrestrained criticism of the government—stances that drove its popularity and growing circulation. Due largely to financial struggles the newspaper ceased publication in 2014.
east view
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engineer
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 08:24 am
@Lash,
It could be that Pravda had a much better reputation in the old Soviet States than it did in the West.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 08:39 am
@engineer,
As said by hightor above, pravda means "truth".

Die Wahrheit ("truth") was the name of the GDR Socialist Unity Party of Germany's central committee's newspaper, the West Berlin's party daily newspaper ... and the largest German Jewish weekly newspaper (since 1933 published until 1939 in Vienna).

Several newspapers for the German-American population had had the same name: Wahrheit (and the daily herald), Jewish daily Wahrheit ...
izzythepush
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 08:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
People watch Fox, and that's a far bigger propaganda machine than Pravda ever was.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 09:15 am
@izzythepush,
Generally speaking, I think people tend to look at something in a generally negative way, even if they only know negative name examples.

Truth means a relation of things to us.
The newspaper recognised by the World Association of Newspapers as the first newspaper in the world was called Relation aller fürnemmen und gedenckwürdigen Historien ("Relation of all distinguished and commemorative histories") (Strasbourg, 1605).

In the aftermath of the 1848 revolution (and especially under the influence of Marx's and Engels's ideas), newspapers then wanted to convey the pure truth. And called themselves just that
Lash
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 12:58 pm
@engineer,
You’re right. We were fed a lot of anti-Soviet propaganda that made us believe Soviets were dragged out of bed in the middle of the night and interrogated, and they all knew the horseshit their ‘Pravda’ belched up on the daily.
They probably heard the same thing about us.

Sadly, now we are getting uniform horseshit like we heard they were in the 70s.

Good point.
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Lash
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 01:02 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I think you have a valid point.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 07:48 pm
Ukraine is using facial recognition tech to identify dead Russian soldiers and inform their families
The Ukrainian government is using facial recognition software to identify dead Russian soldiers, Vice Prime Minister Mykhailo Fedorov told Reuters.

Beyond identification, he said, the information is being used to contact the relatives of the dead.

"As a courtesy to the mothers of those soldiers, we are disseminating this information over social media to at least let families know that they they've lost their sons, and to then enable them to come to collect their bodies," Fedorov told the wire service through a translator.

The facial recognition tech being used is provided by a controversial startup named Clearview AI.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-using-facial-recognition-tech-153640828.html
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 24 Mar, 2022 10:40 pm
A joke from Moscow: "According to Putin the special military operation is really a conflict btw Russia and NATO about World dominance. Whats the situation now?" "Russia has lost 15000 troops, 6 generals, 500 tanks, 3 ships, 100 planes and 1000 trucks. NATO hasn't arrived yet."
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