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are you a keen observer of life

 
 
dinsa
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2005 11:11 am
Observation no. 2
Luck=opportunity+preparation. Agreed?
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Lady J
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2005 12:03 pm
dinsa wrote:
Secondly, let me explain that I am an expert in recognizing people's characters.


Uhhhh.....expert? And expert in such a deep psychological subject as instantaneous character judgement? And you're only 18? Pray tell, how did that come to be, may I ask?
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dinsa
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2005 12:19 pm
how do u know i am 18
what do u think about my 2nd observaton
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Lady J
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2005 02:17 pm
dinsa wrote:
how do u know i am 18


dinsa wrote:
i m 18 how do i increase my height


Gee, I don't know dinsa.. Did it ever occur to you that there may be more than just you who can be observant of people's characters here?

dinsa wrote:
what do u think about my 2nd observaton


It's not inclusive enough. It only embraces a one sided view, accentuating only the positive and neglecting the negative aspect by definition. For every action (force) there is an equal and opposite reaction. To take it seriously, one must look at the circumstances that work for OR against an individual.
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John Jones
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2005 02:22 pm
Quote:
Mills75 wrote:
dinsa wrote:

While it has been said that the eyes are the windows to the soul, how do you know the individual doesn't have a nervous condition
?


You mean a nutcase? Biochemically sad, a weirdo? a chemical anomaly?
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Mills75
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2005 02:28 pm
John Jones wrote:
Quote:
Mills75 wrote:
dinsa wrote:

While it has been said that the eyes are the windows to the soul, how do you know the individual doesn't have a nervous condition
?


You mean a nutcase? Biochemically sad, a weirdo? a chemical anomaly?

Laughing You just about made me snarf my milk. Actually, I was referring to more cosmetic conditions; for example, I knew this guy whose eyes continuously darted hither and thither due to nerve damage.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2005 02:41 pm
I make it a habit to keep my eyes shut when observing other peoples eyes. I like to make random guesses as to their character. If, in making a random guess, I find their character to be unaceptable, I shoot them. (I open one eye when shooting so as not to miss their character and wound them in the knee.)
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Mills75
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2005 02:42 pm
dinsa wrote:
Observation no. 2
Luck=opportunity+preparation. Agreed?

I think of luck as that naturally occurring randomness that acts for or against you in any given situation. In other words, you can't control it, just try to compensate for it.

How about this observation: the more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
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Mills75
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2005 02:45 pm
dyslexia wrote:
I make it a habit to keep my eyes shut when observing other peoples eyes. I like to make random guesses as to their character. If, in making a random guess, I find their character to be unaceptable, I shoot them. (I open one eye when shooting so as not to miss their character and wound them in the knee.)

Laughing
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 31 Jul, 2005 04:44 pm
Gee dys that was ace.It does me good to come across somebody nuttier than me.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 06:36 am
Mills75 wrote:
Sturgis and John Jones: as my students would say, "Don't be a hater!" :wink:


I don't know these students of whom you speak. Are they from around these parts? Details, I need details (as opposed to d-tales).
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dinsa
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 12:20 pm
Lady J wrote:
dinsa wrote:
how do u know i am 18


dinsa wrote:
i m 18 how do i increase my height


Gee, I don't know dinsa.. Did it ever occur to you that there may be more than just you who can be observant of people's characters here?

dinsa wrote:
what do u think about my 2nd observaton


It's not inclusive enough. It only embraces a one sided view, accentuating only the positive and neglecting the negative aspect by definition. For every action (force) there is an equal and opposite reaction. To take it seriously, one must look at the circumstances that work for OR against an individual.
Ok that looks like a one-sided opinion. But LadyJ, when I say luck, I do not mean the luck that wins you lotteries or makes you stumble upon an Aladdin's lamp while you are strolling your way across downtown New York.
The luck that I talk about is the one people, out of envy, like to impose on diligent successful individuals. For instance, suppose Sam has been promoted to the post of Chief Executive from Manager. So, others with green eyes – the subordinates who couldn't make it to that spot- come running away to Sam and snap, " So, Sam you are lucky again!"
I wish to convey this observation to that clique of people- and let me tell them that the luck, which honest and successful chaps seem to be bestowed with is actually an opportunity that they were able to grab coz they were prepared for it- they bent over backwards for it.




Lady J, I appreciate your views. I have read many of your posts. May I ask how did you gain such cognizance in matters of complicated human psychology? Please visit one of my other forums under the same category by the subject line ' do you know your brain is getting better with age?'
Your insights will be of great use to others and me sharing their experiences there.
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Mills75
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 12:22 pm
Sturgis wrote:
Mills75 wrote:
Sturgis and John Jones: as my students would say, "Don't be a hater!" :wink:


I don't know these students of whom you speak. Are they from around these parts? Details, I need details (as opposed to d-tales).

Urban high schoolers in North Las Vegas who listen to entirlely too much hip hop and rap.
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Mills75
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 12:28 pm
dinsa wrote:
Lady J wrote:
dinsa wrote:
how do u know i am 18


dinsa wrote:
i m 18 how do i increase my height


Gee, I don't know dinsa.. Did it ever occur to you that there may be more than just you who can be observant of people's characters here?

dinsa wrote:
what do u think about my 2nd observaton


It's not inclusive enough. It only embraces a one sided view, accentuating only the positive and neglecting the negative aspect by definition. For every action (force) there is an equal and opposite reaction. To take it seriously, one must look at the circumstances that work for OR against an individual.
Ok that looks like a one-sided opinion. But LadyJ, when I say luck, I do not mean the luck that wins you lotteries or makes you stumble upon an Aladdin's lamp while you are strolling your way across downtown New York.
The luck that I talk about is the one people, out of envy, like to impose on diligent successful individuals. For instance, suppose Sam has been promoted to the post of Chief Executive from Manager. So, others with green eyes - the subordinates who couldn't make it to that spot- come running away to Sam and snap, " So, Sam you are lucky again!"
I wish to convey this observation to that clique of people- and let me tell them that the luck, which honest and successful chaps seem to be bestowed with is actually an opportunity that they were able to grab coz they were prepared for it- they bent over backwards for it.




Lady J, I appreciate your views. I have read many of your posts. May I ask how did you gain such cognizance in matters of complicated human psychology? Please visit one of my other forums under the same category by the subject line ' do you know your brain is getting better with age?'
Your insights will be of great use to others and me sharing their experiences there.


Well that's not really luck you're talking about, now is it; your observation is of one of the way's people sometimes marginalize the success of others. However, it's interesting to note that advancement within a business organization frequently depends more on how ideologically compatible one is with upper management than on one's professional merit and competency.
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dinsa
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 11:39 am
Mills75 wrote:
dinsa wrote:
Observation no. 2
Luck=opportunity+preparation. Agreed?

I think of luck as that naturally occurring randomness that acts for or against you in any given situation. In other words, you can't control it, just try to compensate for it.

How about this observation: the more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Yeah I have read somewhere that the deeper you go into any subject the more aware you are of your ignorance in that subject. Like you know, there are those mysterious neighbors who intrigue us all the time and the more we find out about them, the more intrigued we are. We keep feeling ' that's what I know, there must be more.' By the way, I doubt that it is your own observation. If that is, may I ask what life experiences make you feel so?






For now, look at this:
No matter how politely you criticize anyone they are bound to feel bad. I have felt this in my family and seen this among friends. Even if I know my hair is looking bad and expect that others might comment, anyone dare not say ' hey, didn't you wash your hair properly? They look so sticky." At such a remark I would really feel like punching him right into the middle of his nose no matter how well intended his words are. Is it possible that there is no such thing as polite criticism – criticism is criticism after all? What do you feel friends? We are all from different backgrounds and countries and that ensures a great variety in experiences. Can you recount instances which might verify the above reflections?
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Mills75
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 02:16 pm
dinsa wrote:
By the way, I doubt that it is your own observation. If that is, may I ask what life experiences make you feel so?

To be sure I'm not the originator of that observation, just one of the many people who have experienced it. I suppose I qualify as an educated person (I have several fancy looking pieces of paper touting my credentials, for what it's worth), but the more I've learned, the more I realize that knowledge and philosophy are merely tools for discovering and developing more knowledge and philosophy. There's no one life experience that leads to this observation, but a vast number of experiences.

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No matter how politely you criticize anyone they are bound to feel bad. I have felt this in my family and seen this among friends. Even if I know my hair is looking bad and expect that others might comment, anyone dare not say ' hey, didn't you wash your hair properly? They look so sticky." At such a remark I would really feel like punching him right into the middle of his nose no matter how well intended his words are. Is it possible that there is no such thing as polite criticism - criticism is criticism after all? What do you feel friends? We are all from different backgrounds and countries and that ensures a great variety in experiences. Can you recount instances which might verify the above reflections?

Criticism's tricky and we have to be careful to distinguish it from personal attacks. An unsolicited critique of your appearance is generally rude, but if you were going to a job interview that day or some other important function, then it would be a good friend who'd let you know that you look disheveled. Criticism can be polite, but more importantly, it can be constructive.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 09:47 pm
Re: are you a keen observer of life
dinsa wrote:
I have noticed that characterless people can be judged from faces


I have noticed people's assumptions are usually based on expectation, rather than observation.
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pragmatic
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 10:42 pm
In response to the title of this thread, I don't know that I am a keen observer but from my life so far:

- I have observed that life is unfair
- Those who deserve to live longer die first and those who deserve to go to hell live forever

and that isn't the end of my complaining.
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Ray
 
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Reply Wed 3 Aug, 2005 06:25 pm
Prag, lol I see a list in your next post.
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djbt
 
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Reply Thu 4 Aug, 2005 06:30 am
Re: are you a keen observer of life
dinsa wrote:
I have noticed that characterless people can be judged from faces.they have strange eyes. What do you think?


Hmmm.... physiognomy....

While I strongly doubt whether 'characterless-ness' could be judge quite so easily, I do wonder if there is anything in physiognomy at all.

As I understand it, the sight of a human face goes to a different area of the brain to sight of any other object, and causes a distinct emotional response (I vaguely remember reading about a mental disorder that stopped this happening, cause sufferers to feel that the people they saw were no longer real). I imagine it is possible that certain facial characteristics at one time or another were caused by some of the same genes as certain mental characteristics, and that those who evolved to recognise these hints benefited. But then, of course, there would be benefits to evolving facial characteristics which put others on the wrong scent.

Perhaps that's why dinsa feels strongly that s/he can judge people by their appearance, and others are more cautious...
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