"Born of water": Meaning what exactly, and why?

Reply Thu 14 Oct, 2021 06:49 am
What does the phrase "born of water", as used in the Fourth Gospel, mean?

If you have a single explanation, rather than a selection of possibilities, how do you know that your explanation is correct and what is your response to the rival explanations?
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Reply Thu 14 Oct, 2021 08:47 am
Got to be the water of the womb.
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Reply Thu 14 Oct, 2021 02:21 pm
Being Baptized
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The Anointed
Reply Thu 14 Oct, 2021 11:25 pm
What does the phrase "born of water", as used in the Fourth Gospel, mean?

The word “CHRIST” means “The Anointed One.” Enoch was the one anointed by the Most-High in the creation, ‘The Lord of Creatures,’ as his Heir and successor, (The Son of Man) who is Lord of spirits.

Christ is the English term for the Greek Χριστός (Khristós) meaning "the anointed one" It is a translation of the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Māšîaḥ), usually transliterated into English as Messiah or Mashiach. The Hebrew word translated "anointed" is the verb form of the noun "Messiah."

"The Book of the Secrets of Enoch" 22: 8; "And I fell prone and bowed down to the Lord, and the Lord with his lips said to me: "Have courage, Enoch, do not fear, arise and stand before ‘MY’ face into eternity."
And the archistratiege Michael lifted me up, and led me before the Lord’s face.

[Archistratege. Or, "the commander of the armies of the nations, named Michael."]

And the Most-High said to the glorious creatures that surrounded him, tempting them: "Let Enoch stand before ‘MY’ face into eternity," and the glorious creatures bowed down to the Lord, and said: "Let Enoch go [Or be released] according to Thy word." Enoch, was the first to be released.

And the Lord said to Michael: "Go take Enoch from out his earthly garments, and anoint him with my sweet ointment, and put him into the garments of my glory."

And Michael did thus as the Lord told him. He anointed me, and dressed me, and the appearance of that ointment is more than the great light, and his ointment is like sweet dew, and its smell mild, shining like the sun’s rays, and I looked at myself, and was like one of his glorious ones.

To translate something is to change it from one form to another. Hebrews 11: 5; “By faith Enoch was translated so that he should not experience death, and he was not found because God had translated him.”

Enoch was the one from the earlier age of Man that was destroyed by water, who was chosen to serve God before the body of Adam into all eternity. Noah was born, sixty nine years after Enoch was taken up,

In 1 Peter 3: 21; speaks of the few people in the boat — eight in all — who were saved by the water, which was a symbol pointing to baptism, which now saves you.

The 8 people in the boat which the scriptures wants you see as the sole survivors of a global flood, were Noah, his wife, their three sons and their wives, who are all direct genetic descendants of Enoch, (The Anointed one,) through his six sons, Methusulah, Rigam, Riman, Urchan, Cherminian, and Giadad.

Baptism is seen by Peter as being symbolic of the flood, in which the old body of Adam was submerged in the baptismal waters of the earth, and the new body of Enoch, the heir to the throne of ‘The Most-High in the creation,” arose from those waters.

You go into the baptismal waters as a child of Adam, you come out as a child of He who sits in the throne of ‘The Most-High’ in the creation.
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