How stupid is Trump?

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-elon-musk-government-job-cost-cutting-1968474

Elon Musk has Trump Ally Elon Musk Warns of Necessary' Economic Collapse if Trump Elected.

...Trump said that he is planning on making Elon Musk "secretary of cost cutting."

Musk says everyday Americans must embrace the pain if Trump gets back in the Oval Office. Elon Musk has offered a sobering preview of Donald Trump’s economic plan for America if he is re-elected, revealing that a period of intentional “temporary hardship” is on the horizon for American households.

Be fair, he did give them e coli.

Fair exchange etc.

What's a climate change denier like you going to replace petrol with, nuclear power?

That's Builder for you, crowing about the loss of the petrodollar and western influence while not comprehending Russia's reliance on "crude oil."

God knows what point he's trying to make, maybe David Icke could help clear things up.

What does Elon Musk mean when he says the United States must go through an intentional "necessary collapse of the economy" when he's appointed Secretary of cost cutting by Trump?

It means the poor and vulnerable will have to further enrich multibillionaires like Musk.

I think refering to Trump supporters as garbage is an insult to garbage.

Absolutely, there's good garbage and bad garbage on both sides.

I'm sure that all the people who attended Trump's Maga rally, or should I say Neo-Bund rally, in Madison Square Garden are all wonderful, sensitive people. How could we call them garbage? They just happen to worship Trump. Is it their fault that he happens to be a narcissistic sociopath who idolizes Hitler as a role model?

This rally was almost a reenactment of the German-American Bund rally in Madison Square Garden in 1939. It's almost as if the rally was a response and manifestation of the call: the Bund will rise again.

The German-American Bund of the 1930s was a proud mini-copy of the German Nazi party. They openly displayed the swastika symbols and the lightning bolt symbols of the German Nazi party, and members often wore uniforms of a military nature.

The Bund was an openly white supremist, racist, misogynistic, fanatically patriarchal, anti-communist and extremely polarized party. They stood for everything the German Nazi party stood for, even though the German Nazi Party disavowed them and separated themselves from the Bund because the German Nazis still wanted diplomatic relations with The United States before the war.

Unfortunately for the German-American Bund, the war with Germany occurred, so they disbanded or, at least, went underground, that is to say, they kept quiet about their beliefs, for the most part.

After the war, Bund members didn't so much apologize for their Nazi allegiance as claim that they weren't really nearly as much Nazis as they were anti-communists, so they were forgiven because the identity of the United States was becoming almost as polarized and anti-communist and anti-Russian as the Nazi's had been.

Oddly enough, now that communism is over in Russia displaced by fascism, the Magas are taking a more pro-Russian, pro-fascist and anti-Ukrainian, anti-democracy stance.

It may be that the credo of many Americans wasn't all that different from the German-American Bund in some respects; they just had been
quieter about it, that is, until now.

Way to go with the Godwin's law crapola.

The real issue, and one that you're never going to confront openly here at all, for fear of being ostracised, is that the only "alternative" to Trump, is a party full of pedophiles and sympathisers to organised paedophilia.

Oprah and her Weinstein handlers and procurers. Diddy and his merry gang of kiddy fiddlers. The many hollyweird "elites" and their many visits to Epstein's child molesting island.

Willy Gaytes wife left him because of his open adoration of Epstein, apparently for "financial advice"?? Yeah, right.

Most advanced western nations have actually moved well past the red or blue stage of political posturing, and independent parties actually carry a lot of clout.

The US of A needs to understand that being divided along such narrow lines of discourse is both dangerous, and controlling. The PTB like how easily you're being manipulated. They own the press, and they push your buttons.

You're being manipulated, and dear old Donny is just cannon fodder for the masses. He knows what buttons to push, and probably gets told what to say.

The "facts" that apparently 99% of those in the Dems camp actually voted for Kamala to be their rep (didn't hear about that process at all) should be questioned, or actually laughed out of the court, because that would never happen for such a controversial character as she definitely is. In a party that wasn't even that keen on old Joe.

You're being played. And played very badly.

Gee, how fortunate that Trump never fell in with Epstein.

Damn you're weird.

Stephen King take

Shaun Micallef take:

Trump's falling out with Epstein is well documented. Over a real estate deal.

Looks like you're still convinced that if I'm not cheering for Kamala, I must be cheering for the Don.

I've never liked him, and never will, but I do understand why the cabal hasn't bumped him off, just yet.

He's too valuable to their divide and conquer agenda, and quite probably reads their scripts for them.

Wise up, hinge. I used to give you more credit for intelligence than you're displaying now.

Never suggested you were a fan of Trump's, just an apologist. Blanket statements saying every democrat is a paedophile though?

Not a blanket statement at all.

Just that all of the figureheads promoting the party
are definitely in that mix, and either participating,

or fine with that.

I've said it before, but you never seem to read what you write:

Trump and Ukraine: a voter's guide. Timothy Snyder

(quote)
You might be interested to know that Mr Trump for more than a quarter century has been anti-NATO and for more than a quarter Century has issued Pro-Soviet and then later Pro-Russian statements. This is a long and strong record of Mr Trump.

The second point about Mr Trump are the debts. Mr Trump is someone who has made a lot of money in Russia by the very simple expedient of having Russian investors pay money for licensing fees for buildings, which are then never built, so they're debts of that kind, but there are debts of another kind, political debts. Russia has backed Trump in every election including this one, and he's very well aware of that fact.

The third point worth keeping in mind is that Mr Trump generally admires dictators, and he specifically admires Mr Putin and has called Mr Putin's decision to invade Ukraine, and I'm quoting Mr Trump now, "A decision of genius."

Fourth would be, it's worth remembering, that when Mr Trump was President the main thing he did with respect to Ukraine was to try and bully Mr Zelensky to try to trade Us weapons deliveries for dirt on one of Mr Trump's political opponents.

Mr Trump is Russia's preferred candidate, 100%, unambiguously. They talk about it all the time, and it's for a very simple reason, they think they can win the war with Trump. I think Trump is their only chance of winning the war.

What disturbs me is this: when Mr Trump talks about how Ukraine has already been completely destroyed, what he's talking about is the future. He's talking about the future under a Trump Administration. He's talking about what will happen after a deal between Trump and Putin about the future of Ukraine when he does his best to give Ukraine over to Russia and Ukraine is then destroyed. He's going to say, well, Ukraine was already destroyed, I didn't do anything.
https://youtu.be/anuIEGCmj7o?si=nY7D7VAf9MRMctDh