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@Real Music,

Real Music wrote:

Barr Says No Evidence Of Widespread Voter Fraud In Election.

Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has “not seen fraud on a scale” that could have changed the outcome of the presidential race.

Trump attacks Republican governors in states he lost.

Published December 1, 2020

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That is not what the state legislatures say. Barr is irrelevant.

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@Rjohnson71,

Are you a comedian?

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@coldjoint,

That begs the question of how much you get paid and by whom.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

...What happened is that in court after court judges have looked at the evidence and have found it anywhere from unsubstantial to ridiculous. This include Republican judges. Even a judge appointed by Trump found the so-called evidence to be ridiculous, and all three supreme court judges appointed by Trump said "nope"....

Can you demonstrate that any judge examined Giuliani's affidavits?

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@Brandon9000,

Brandon9000 wrote:

maxdancona wrote:
...What happened is that in court after court judges have looked at the evidence and have found it anywhere from unsubstantial to ridiculous. This include Republican judges. Even a judge appointed by Trump found the so-called evidence to be ridiculous, and all three supreme court judges appointed by Trump said "nope"....

Can you demonstrate that any judge examined Giuliani's affidavits?

Do you really expect an answer? State legislatures think there is enough evidence to appoint a different slate of electors in seven states.

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Listening to TYT about a GOP poll orker who stated that, in Ga , he was responsible for the dumping of 189000 votes from a predominantly black district. So the GOP was responsible for disenfranchising 189K voters????

Is this some more garbaaaagge similar to whats been the line from the Trumpiies (except, obviously, its from another POV)??

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@farmerman,

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Listening to TYT

There's some real Americans. And the fraud disenfranchised all the states than ran legal elections. - Laughing

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@coldjoint,

why is your burning hqir pres any more truthful than what Ive just posted??

Trump's losing major ground in all arenas where politicins still want a career.(Sorta like McConnell who recenth;y discovered that the oaths of office are to our Constitution, not to a single person.

Course you fail to accept that and so our Democracy lies in danger until Demagogue Don is tossed out on his ample ass.

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@farmerman,

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Trump's losing major ground in all arenas where politicins still want a career

The Republicans that do not support Trump will not be re-elected. Trump will tell te people who they should vote for either in or out of office. People like America first.

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@coldjoint,

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People like America first.

so they blindly follow the one whose entire life has been based on self dealing and **** everyone else. Ya really have to make sure your dosage is correct

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@Brandon9000,

Brandon9000 wrote:

maxdancona wrote:
...What happened is that in court after court judges have looked at the evidence and have found it anywhere from unsubstantial to ridiculous. This include Republican judges. Even a judge appointed by Trump found the so-called evidence to be ridiculous, and all three supreme court judges appointed by Trump said "nope"....

Can you demonstrate that any judge examined Giuliani's affidavits?

If a Republican-appointed judge found Giulanis claims so ridiculous that they didn't even read the affidavits...

Doesn't that make it even more pathetic?

(I assume that the republican-appointed judges in question do their jobs).

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

maxdancona wrote:
...What happened is that in court after court judges have looked at the evidence and have found it anywhere from unsubstantial to ridiculous. This include Republican judges. Even a judge appointed by Trump found the so-called evidence to be ridiculous, and all three supreme court judges appointed by Trump said "nope"....

Can you demonstrate that any judge examined Giuliani's affidavits?

If a Republican-appointed judge found Giulanis claims so ridiculous that they didn't even read the affidavits...

Doesn't that make it even more pathetic?

(I assume that the republican-appointed judges in question do their jobs).

You said:

"Even a judge appointed by Trump found the so-called evidence to be ridiculous"

and you have no idea whether that's what happened. Not even admitting evidence into court does not amount to disproving evidence. If it did, judges would routinely not admit evidence into cases, but rule on it anyway as if it had been admitted,

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@Brandon9000,

Brandon you are being silly.

Judge Brann (Republican appointed) wrote:

. "This Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more.”

These claims of voter fraud are ridiculous to anyone who isn't partisan who isn't insanely partisan.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Brandon you are being silly.

Judge Brann (Republican appointed) wrote:
. "This Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more.”

These claims of voter fraud are ridiculous to anyone who isn't partisan who isn't insanely partisan.

Not to the state legislatures who have heard the evidence.

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@coldjoint,

How many state legislatures are going to vote to overturn the election results of their elections.

They are partisan politicians playing to a rabid base. Not one of them has done anything to overturn the election results. They are just throwing you herrings so you will keep clapping like trained MAGA seals.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

How many state legislatures are going to vote to overturn the election results of their elections.

They are partisan politicians playing to a rabid base. Not one of them has done anything to overturn the election results. They are just throwing you herrings so you will keep clapping like trained MAGA seals.

They have sent alternative slates of electors. They have subpoenaed Dominion machines for forensic audits. They have held hearings where the fraud was proven by the citizens of those states.

The group throwing herrings is the MSM as it lies and their seals who believe everything they say. There was massive fraud and even if Trump does not get a second term that Braindead China Joe and vice president sperm breath will never be legitimate.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Brandon you are being silly.

Judge Brann (Republican appointed) wrote:
. "This Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more.”

These claims of voter fraud are ridiculous to anyone who isn't partisan who isn't insanely partisan.

The question was whether any judge ever looked at any of Giuliani's affidavits." I understand that he had over a hundred. You cannot answer.

You guys really ought to be cooperating more in these investigations. According to polls, 70 percent of Republicans now say they don’t believe the 2020 election was free and fair. ( https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/09/republicans-free-fair-elections-435488 ). Do you really want Biden to be president in a country where tens of millions of Americans believe that they won and were cheated?

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@Brandon9000,

Brandon9000 wrote:

maxdancona wrote:

Brandon you are being silly.

Judge Brann (Republican appointed) wrote:
. "This Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more.”

These claims of voter fraud are ridiculous to anyone who isn't partisan who isn't insanely partisan.

The question was whether any judge ever looked at any of Giuliani's affidavits." I understand that he had over a hundred. You cannot answer.

You guys really ought to be cooperating more in these investigations. According to polls, 70 percent of Republicans now say they don’t believe the 2020 election was free and fair. ( https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/09/republicans-free-fair-elections-435488 ). Do you really want Biden to be president in a country where tens of millions of Americans believe that they won and were cheated?

With all due respect Brandon, he does not care about America or Americans.

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@Brandon9000,

1. The claims of widespread fraud are ridiculous. Sure, I want a judge to look at the claims to see if evidence warrants further action. And that is exactly what they have done.

2. Trump has arrived at cult status. I suspect that 30% of Republicans are true believers, and the other 40% are just following along. I have no way to confirm this, just a hope that Republicans have common sense.

3. You can find "evidence" to support any crazy theory if you are willing to ignore the evidence against it. There are a number of Republicans who believe the Democrats are controlled by Lizard people.

4. If a large number of Republicans have latched on to a crazy belief system, it is not my responsibility to fix them.

5. When my political side has crazy beliefs (and sometimes they do) I have no problem confronting them. The lack of Republicans who are standing up to the Trump cult is a little surprising.

6. Politicians like Ted Cruz are playing you. Cruz understands fully well there was no widespread fraud, and he also knows fully well that Biden will be the next president (unless it is Harris).

7. Cruz and his friends also know the Trump cult is profitable. Getting you all riled up ensures they have an angry base to use to increase their own power. They are raising tens of millions of dollars from you people. This is fine with me because it means less money for Republicanvaises that actually have a chance.

8. What Trump is doing will ultimately be bad for the Republican party. I should be happy about this. But what Trump is doing is also bad for the nation at large. You have turned Trump into a messiah figure, and yet you don't hold him accountable for his own behavior.

The Trump cult paints him as both a powerful savior and a helpless victim. It is a strange belief system.

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@maxdancona,

Number one is a lie. Number two is projection. School children were made to sing to and about Obama and some told to pray to him. That is a cult.

Number three again is projection. The first Bush was rumored to be a reptilian. Number four is far from crazy. There is no way China Joe got that many votes or defied almost every historical indicators of a winning candidate.

Five is not worth answering. Your esteem for yourself is well known. Six, you have no idea what Cruz thinks and you are forgetting he volunteered to argue the Texas case. Seven you are just continuing to speak from your ass.

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