Everything is a Russian plot

You left out Iran.

You crack me up!

You claim "leftists" but what you really mean is whackadoodle Trumpists that will believe just about anything and everything.

Just the other day, a post went around the internet claiming Hunter Biden raped, sodomized and tortured little girls, as proposed by Rudy Guiliani's confiscation of Biden's computer left at a repair shop.

What really cracked me up is when I asked why Hunter Biden hasn't been arrested on those charges, over 50 Trumpists claimed it was an "October surprise."

So I ask you, what normal, sane individual would think that's a "surprise" and not arrest the offender?

Because it's not true. None of it.

What is true is dear ol' Rudy has been trapesing back and forth from Russia for the past year or so to dig up "dirt" on Biden. Miraculously, this story just so happens to pop up two weeks before a Presidential election.

******* idiots, the lot of them.

False.



So some random nutjob exists. So what?



So, according to you, some random nutjob existing and floating some whacked out conspiracy means that actual credible evidence of bribery from foreign governments linked to both father and son Biden should be ignored? What does one thing have to do with the other?



Credible citation needed.



I would say that the people making false equivalencies are the ******* idiots.

It's not a "random" nutjob" it's Rudy himself:

Social Media Posts Dredge Up Baseless ‘Child Trafficking’ Conspiracy Theory
By Eugene Kiely

Posted on October 19, 2020

Quick Take
Social media posts are once again making false and baseless claims about high-profile Democrats being involved in child trafficking and sex crimes.

Full Story
It’s hard not to overstate this simple fact: There is not and has never been any evidence that the “Clintons, the Obamas & the Biden family are all involved in child trafficking & crimes against children.”

But that’s what a Facebook post falsely claims — one of many posts that revive the long-debunked pizzagate conspiracy theory, which spread the fiction that prominent Democrats, including Hillary and Bill Clinton, were running a child sex-trafficking ring in the basement of a Washington, D.C., pizzeria.

Although it was a hoax, many apparently believed in pizzagate — including Edgar Maddison Welch, who got four years in prison after going to the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria on Dec. 4, 2016, armed with a loaded AR-15 assault rifle and a revolver, firing the assault rifle into a door and scattering customers. “Welch was motivated, at least in part, by unfounded rumors concerning a child sex-trafficking ring that supposedly was being perpetrated at the establishment,” the Department of Justice said in a June 2017 press release announcing his sentence.

Now, there are new unfounded rumors circulating on social media about former Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter.

“In 2016, we learned Anthony Weiner’s laptop contained proof Hillary Clinton & her associates are involved in child trafficking & pedophilia,” one Facebook post says. “Now we learn Hunter Biden’s laptop had pedophile tapes. Our intelligence insider friend asks if we see a pattern. The Clintons, the Obamas & the Biden family are all involved in child trafficking & crimes against children, period.”

Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist behind InfoWars and the bogus notion that the Sandy Hook school shooting in 2012 was a hoax, posted a video Oct. 17 that carried the headline “Confirmed: Trump Has Footage Of Hunter Biden Raping And Torturing Little Girls — Set To Release.” The video quotes Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, claiming to have pictures of Hunter Biden “that I can’t describe, some of which are illegal.” The video has received more than 2.2 million views.

Another Facebook post makes this graphic, baseless claim: “Hunter Biden had 25,000 pics of him torturing and raping children under 10 in China on his laptop!”

This kind of nonsense is circulating on social media like flotsam in the Hudson River from a New York garbage barge.

How did we get here? It involves Giuliani, who has worked with a known Russian agent to obtain dirt on Joe Biden, and a conservative newspaper, the New York Post, which is owned by News Corp. and controlled by conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch.

Let’s recap what we know — so far.

The hard drive of a laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden was obtained by the New York Post from Robert Costello, a lawyer representing Giuliani. Last week, the paper published several stories based on emails from that hard drive — including one story that perpetuated the false narrative that Joe Biden pressured Ukrainian officials to fire the country’s top prosecutor to protect a Ukrainian company that employed his son from an investigation. (In fact, Biden was carrying out the Obama administration’s anti-corruption policy in Ukraine that was supported by the international community.)

That New York Post story included an image of what the paper said was a subpoena for Hunter Biden’s laptop.

A day after that story appeared, the conservative Western Journal carried a commentary piece saying that “a barely visible signature bleeding through from back side” of that subpoena “appears to match that of FBI Special Agent Joshua Wilson.” The website said Wilson works on child pornography cases.

Three days later, Fox News host Maria Bartiromo asked Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin to “connect the dots,” specifically asking if there is a “child pornography issue here on that laptop.” (Fox News Channel is also controlled by Murdoch.)

“I don’t want to speculate,” said Johnson, who nevertheless went on to say, “I’ve heard all kinds of things that I think will probably be revealed over the next few days.” Johnson, chairman of the Senate homeland security committee, also has called on the FBI to confirm or deny the authenticity of the laptop.

There are many unverified claims being made about the alleged contents of the laptop, but at this point we can say with certainty:

The Facebook meme that makes claims about Hunter Biden “torturing and raping children” provides no evidence, despite very specifically claiming there are “25,000 pics.” Neither does the InfoWars video.

Contrary to another Facebook post’s claim, former New York Rep. Anthony Weiner’s laptop did not contain “proof Hillary Clinton & her associates are involved in child trafficking & pedophilia.”

Weiner, the ex-husband of Clinton’s aide Huma Abedin, was sentenced in September 2017 to 21 months in prison for “transferring obscene material to a minor.” The FBI examined his laptop as part of that investigation, and Abedin, who also used the laptop, did have work-related emails on it that she sent and received from Clinton.

Clinton’s emails on Weiner’s laptop were thoroughly reviewed by the Department of Justice and the department’s inspector general, and those reviews resulted in no criminal charges.

Even though pizzagate and claims about Weiner’s laptop have been debunked, specious reports about Clinton continue to circulate on social media.

These sorts of claims about Democrats often spring from QAnon, which the FBI has described as a conspiracy theory “very likely” to “motivate some domestic extremists to commit criminal, sometimes violent activity.”

QAnon followers espouse a conspiracy theory that regards Trump as a crusader against what they consider elite pedophiles, including top Democrats and celebrities, who supposedly run the government and the entertainment industry.

The president at a recent televised town hall declined to disavow QAnon, claiming he knows very little about it. Trump, however, has repeatedly shared posts on Twitter from QAnon followers, and QAnon signage and paraphernalia have regularly shown up at Trump rallies.

We don’t know who is behind the latest unsubstantiated claims about Hunter Biden. But, as always, we caution readers when confronting viral claims to ask, “Where’s the evidence?”

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media. Our previous stories can be found here.

This fact check is available at IFCN’s 2020 US Elections FactChat #Chatbot on WhatsApp. Click here for more.

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U.S. Department of Justice. “North Carolina Man Sentenced to Four-Year Prison Term For Armed Assault at Northwest Washington Pizza Restaurant.” 22 Jun 2017.

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https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/social-media-posts-dredge-up-baseless-child-trafficking-conspiracy-theory/

Accuse your opponent of what you are guilty of. Nothing new.
Hillary was guilty all day!

1. You are absolutely right.
2. Wacko nutjob Rudy Giuliani is definitely not "random"

Authoritarianism: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

John Oliver discusses the growing number of authoritarian leaders around the world,
their common characteristics, and whether or not one of them is currently our president.

What a flaming crock of crap.

Giuliani didn't spread the fake story about child trafficking, and you're a dishonest liar for saying so.

I suppose that Tony Bobulinski is a "Russian plant" also?

"EVERYONE SAYING SOMETHING THAT I DON'T LIKE IS A RUSSIAN SECRET AGENT!"

Pu-lease, give me a break. The left can't "Russia" it's way out of this one.

I met Joe Biden for an hour to talk about his family business in China and have three phones to prove what he knew claims Hunter's former business partner just before presidential debate - as Democrat DENIES foreign dealings

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8869345/More-Hunter-Biden-texts-emails-emerge-hours-debate.html

Hunter’s ex-partner Tony Bobulinski: Joe Biden’s a liar and here’s the proof

https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-ex-partner-tony-bobulinski-calls-joe-biden-a-liar/

Biden Insider Tony Bobulinski Provides Trove of Documents to Senate Investigators

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/22/biden-insider-tony-bobulinski-provides-trove-documents-senate-investigators/



IT'S ALL RUSSIA!!!

RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!!!

Speaking of ****...

Did Rudy Giuliani Just Cop To Possessing Child Pornography?
What could possibly go wrong?
By ELIZABETH DYE
Oct 19, 2020 at 4:30 PM

Let’s play along here for a minute and pretend that everything we’re hearing from the New York Post and Rudy Giuliani about Vice President Biden and his son Hunter is 100 percent truthful and not an obvious Russian interference op embraced by a demented grifter and his craven enablers. Just for the sake of argument.

Hunter Biden, a California resident, hopped a plane back to Delaware so he could get drunk and drop off a waterlogged laptop at a repair shop in Wilmington. After which he promptly forgot all about the device, which happened to be full of incriminating emails and videos. Sure, Jan.

Noting that the laptop had a sticker on it from the Beau Biden Foundation, the store owner, who is legally blind, decided he’d better investigate the contents of the hard drive. At which point he discovered incriminating emails from a Ukrainian businessman at the infamous Burisma natural gas company thanking Hunter Biden for setting up a meeting with his father, and also, perhaps videos of Hunter Biden having sex and smoking crack. You bet!

So “in fear for his life” the store owner contacted Rudy Giuliani, the cyber guru who accidentally posted a video of himself cracking racist jokes last week, and Steve Bannon, who was recently indicted for defrauding a charity. Then Rudy and his illustrious compadre Robert Costello, last seen trying to undermine Michael Cohen’s cooperation agreement using Garth Brooks lyrics, “authenticated” the hard drive — although they won’t say how and they won’t allow anyone else to examine it.

“Bob checked everything out, made sure that the document was authentic. He then … authenticated the hard drive with a number of different tests he performed,” Giuliani told Fox’s Mark Levin. “And then he got a copy of it from the gentleman. And then he began cataloging it. And then he brought it to my attention.” Just embrace the crazy.

The FBI has had this computer since 2019, and no arrests have occurred — or even revelations of impropriety by either the Vice President or his son, which would surely have helped Donald Trump’s case during the impeachment hearing. But upon closer examination, it appears that there is child pornography on “Hunter Biden’s” hard drive, conveniently reinforcing the lunatic Q-anon theory that Democrats are a cabal of satanic pedophiles. (Incidentally, planting illicit images on its enemies computers is a common Russian FSB tactic.)

On Fox Business this morning, Senator Ron Johnson warned darkly that the FBI agent who signed the supposed subpoena works on child pornography cases (or he did back in 2012), so the obvious inference is that the FBI is hot on Hunter Biden’s trail for kiddie porn. Maria Bartiromo furrowed her brow in credulous concern. Let’s all be like Maria Bartiromo!

Then Giuliani’s buddy Chanel Rion of One America News Network assured us that something filthy is about to drop.

While Trump ally Wayne Allyn Root tweeted that “My sources- as high up as it gets- watched videos on Hunter’s laptops TODAY. Just told me point blank…no rumor…they saw Hunter raping & torturing little Chinese children.” And if you can’t trust a wingnut talkshow host, who can ya trust!

Meanwhile, Fox itself passed on this story (oh, hey, that’s Bartiromo’s shop!) because it didn’t meet the standards of the network that relentlessly flogged the Seth Rich conspiracy. And the author of the piece at the New York Post refused to put his byline on it because of glaring credibility problems.

But anyway, let’s just accept all of this as gospel truth for the moment.

We just have one question.

What the hell was Rudy Giuliani doing with child pornography? Mere possession of sexually exploitative images of children is a crime, and the law imposes an affirmative obligation on anyone who comes across child pornography, even accidentally, to alert law enforcement immediately. And yet the former mayor and federal prosecutor claims to have had a copy of Biden’s hard drive in his possession for weeks now, long enough to shop the story to Fox and the NY Post.

“I sleep with it at night,” he told The Daily Beast.

So when was he going to get rid of this contraband? For that matter, when were Steve Bannon and Robert Costello going to get around to fulfilling their legal obligation to report this crime? Is the blind computer repairman going to be charged with distribution of child pornography because he made multiple copies of “Hunter Biden’s” hard drive and passed them on to third parties?

Let’s take a wild shot in the dark that no one reported coming into possession of child pornography because it did not exist. There was no kiddie porn, and probably no laptop.

There’s just a steaming pile of bullshit, and no one should swallow any of it.

https://abovethelaw.com/2020/10/did-rudy-giuliani-just-cop-to-possessing-child-pornography/

Did you you know that Osama Bin Laden actually wasn't responsible for 9/11?

Yeah, turns out it was actually all the Russian's fault.

The Russians also faked the moon landing.

It's amazing, anytime it's convenient, turns out it's the Russians who did it!

I can't believe you're a real person with intelligence and a sane attitude.

That's because of the Russians!