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Sun 10 Jul, 2005 01:25 am
Matt Cooper's Source
Washington: Politics, Court & the Press
7/10/05: Eleanor Clift, NEWSWEEK Editor and TV Commentator; and Michael Isikoff, NEWSWEEK investigative correspondent, Washington
In a brief conversation with Rove, Cooper asked what to make of the flap over Wilson's criticisms. NEWSWEEK obtained a copy of the e-mail that Cooper sent his bureau chief after speaking to Rove. (The e-mail was authenticated by a source intimately familiar with Time's editorial handling of the Wilson story, but who has asked not to be identified because of the magazine's corporate decision not to disclose its contents.) Cooper wrote that Rove offered him a "big warning" not to "get too far out on Wilson." Rove told Cooper that Wilson's trip had not been authorized by "DCIA"?-CIA Director George Tenet?-or Vice President Dick Cheney. Rather, "it was, KR said, wilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency on wmd [weapons of mass destruction] issues who authorized the trip." Wilson's wife is Plame, then an undercover agent working as an analyst in the CIA's Directorate of Operations counterproliferation division. (Cooper later included the essence of what Rove told him in an online story.) The e-mail characterizing the conversation continues: "not only the genesis of the trip is flawed an[d] suspect but so is the report. he [Rove] implied strongly there's still plenty to implicate iraqi interest in acquiring uranium fro[m] Niger... "
Nothing in the Cooper e-mail suggests that Rove used Plame's name or knew she was a covert operative. Nonetheless, it is significant that Rove was speaking to Cooper before Novak's column appeared; in other words, before Plame's identity had been published. Fitzgerald has been looking for evidence that Rove spoke to other reporters as well. "Karl Rove has shared with Fitzgerald all the information he has about any potentially relevant contacts he has had with any reporters, including Matt Cooper," Luskin told NEWSWEEK.
A source close to Rove, who declined to be identified because he did not wish to run afoul of the prosecutor or government investigators, added that there was "absolutely no inconsistency" between Cooper's e-mail and what Rove has testified to during his three grand-jury appearances in the case. "A fair reading of the e-mail makes clear that the information conveyed was not part of an organized effort to disclose Plame's identity, but was an effort to discourage Time from publishing things that turned out to be false," the source said, referring to claims in circulation at the time that Cheney and high-level CIA officials arranged for Wilson's trip to Africa.
Fitzgerald is known as a tenacious, thorough prosecutor. He refused to comment, and it is not clear whether he is pursuing evidence that will result in indictments, or just tying up loose ends in a messy case. But the Cooper e-mail offers one new clue to the mystery of what Fitzgerald is probing?-and provides a glimpse of what was unfolding at the highest levels as the administration defended a part of its case for going to war in Iraq.
The noose gets tighter. I am holding off before I comment further - but it is always the little stuff that gets those in power.
Tax evasion and Al Capone - a little duct tape on a door and Richard Nixon... we will see if a little e-mail will get Rove.
TTF
Quote:Nothing in the Cooper e-mail suggests that Rove used Plame's name or knew she was a covert operative.
and...
Quote:"A fair reading of the e-mail makes clear that the information conveyed was not part of an organized effort to disclose Plame's identity, but was an effort to discourage Time from publishing things that turned out to be false,"
And they say reading is fundamental
JustWonders wrote:Quote:Nothing in the Cooper e-mail suggests that Rove used Plame's name or knew she was a covert operative.
Quote:"A fair reading of the e-mail makes clear that the information conveyed was not part of an organized effort to disclose Plame's identity, but was an effort to discourage Time from publishing things that turned out to be false,"
And they say reading is fundamental

Someone can very easily get a persons name across without actually saying it. (I would like to say something about someone who is married to Bush, so I'll say it, but I won't tell you her name. Get the point?)
And as for preventing publishing "false items", I'm sure thats the only reason for the e-mail, right? There couldn't
possibly be any other reason for it, could there? This administration would never do something underhanded under the guise of doing something else, eh? Maybe they didn't, but looking at their track record, I sure as hell aren't going to just give them a questionless benefit of the doubt.
"Reading may be fundamental", but the ability to understand more complex concepts is pretty damn important too.
In any case, we know IF he is responsible, he'll probably just be pardoned. Regardless, it sure would be nice to see
this on the evening news:
"If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of. I welcome the investigation. I am absolutely confident the Justice Department will do a good job. I want to know the truth." -- George W. Bush, Feb. 11, 2004
I see.
In that case, perhaps the title of this thread should be edited to read:
***Confirmed*** ...through innuendo and speculation ... Karl Rove (blah, blah, blah) LOL!
And, it's PLAME. Not Plume, LOL.
JustWonders:
The point of this post, despite its misleading title, is that Karl Rove has been claiming no knowledge of this e-mail leak up until now. It appears his story will have to be amended.
"I didn't know her name. I didn't leak her name," Rove told CNN last year when asked if he had anything to do with the Plame leak. Rove has never publicly acknowledged talking to any reporter about former ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife. But last week, his lawyer, Robert Luskin, confirmed to NEWSWEEK that Rove did?-and that Rove was the secret source who, at the request of both Cooper's lawyer and the prosecutor, gave Cooper permission to testify."
Source:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8525978/site/newsweek/
Again, the noose tightens, but is not closed. Plenty of wiggle room for politicians to get off.
Truth, is fundamental as well.
TTF
Rove will be indicted for perjury. LOL
You acknowledge the false title and then lecture me on truth?
LOL.
I wonder if Miller would reveal her source in a closed session of Congress?
JustWonders wrote:Quote:Nothing in the Cooper e-mail suggests that Rove used Plame's name or knew she was a covert operative.
and...
Quote:"A fair reading of the e-mail makes clear that the information conveyed was not part of an organized effort to disclose Plame's identity, but was an effort to discourage Time from publishing things that turned out to be false,"
And they say reading is fundamental

Reading is fundamental, all right, how many friggin' wives do you think Wilson has? You guys will try anything to obfuscate the facts. It is mind boggling.
Fitzgerald should close the investigation. And leave Miller sitting in jail.
LOL.
Miller would then be released. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
dyslexia wrote:Wilson is a mormon?
Apparently that is what JW thinks. LOL
Reading is fundamental. LOL
JustGiggles, Millar was a major supporter of the Bush Admin justification for the Iraq invasion, so yeah, leave Millar in jail sounds fine by me.
dyslexia wrote:Wilson is a mormon?
No but JW is a... oh never mind. LOL
dyslexia wrote:JustGiggles, Millar was a major supporter of the Bush Admin justification for the Iraq invasion, so yeah, leave Millar in jail sounds fine by me.
Except when the Grand Jury is finished, she gets out. But a Congressional panel could subpoenae her and let her rot in jail forever.
dyslexia wrote:JustGiggles, Millar was a major supporter of the Bush Admin justification for the Iraq invasion, so yeah, leave Millar in jail sounds fine by me.
That's why it's been so amusing to see just who is coming to her defense these days
The thing is, Rove has made fools out of the liberals, socialists, communists, and Democrats (actually, the same thing, I know) for years, and that's why they want him out.
The only ones who really care about any of this are the ones who hate Mr. Rove.