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How can we possibly "secure" a national mail in vote election?

 
 
Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 05:30 pm
We're not talking about a handful of absentee ballots. This is the total migration of in person "secure" voting, where there are election officials watching every ballot as its cast, to relying on people who are unqualified to handle such responsibilities as they become TOTALLY overwhelmed with mail. The same unqualified individuals who are often in the news for nefarious activities regarding regular mail.
Who's going to monitor the millions of mail carriers as they walk from house to house collecting ballots? Who's going to watch them as they unload their trucks full of ballots?
There are not enough poll watchers and election officials to even come close to making this a secure process.
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 06:34 pm
We can't.
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Teufel
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 07:06 pm
@Dr Sliptinschit,

This sort of imbecilic smoke screening surrounding elections used to be the preserve of 3rd world countries ..... Which of course in social/fiscal realities, is what the USA now much represents.

Why do people like Trump and the GOP not want nor like postal ballots? Because the people who use them are highly likely not to vote for Trump or the GOP. It si that simple.

This is not a proposition for Wittgenstein. In all western societies postal votes are used almost entirely by the aged, the ill and the infirm. This faux whirlwind regarding postal votes is pathetic; it is the usual limp wristed, moronic, propaganda for the brain dead to swallow.

The walking cancer which is Trump is rightly concerned that he will lose this coming election. How do we know this? Because he and his little helpers are trying to find anything to discredit an election which has yet to even take place.

There is nothing wrong with postal votes ... NOTHING. It is all a complete fabrication.

Why don't these Trump supporting fools, just close the door on their trailer park home or backwoods shack ... Then close their foetid mouths at the same time. Stick to kissing snakes.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 07:32 pm
@Dr Sliptinschit,
Let's flip the question.

Let's say you want to cheat. How would you do it?

In order to cheat in a meaningful way, you have to have millions of fraudulent votes all for the same guy. A few here and there aren't going to change anything.

And you need to do it without being detected...

So tell me what evil scheme you can come up with that doesn't involve a crazy conspiracy theory...
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 07:33 pm
@Teufel,
Teufel wrote:
This sort of imbecilic smoke screening surrounding elections used to be the preserve of 3rd world countries ..... Which of course in social/fiscal realities, is what the USA now much represents.

Why do people like Trump and the GOP not want nor like postal ballots?

Because we believe that the method is not secure enough to prevent cheating and that there will be cheating, with new bunches of ballots being suddenly discovered in back rooms when the vote is close. We want to be sure that every citizen gets one vote and no more, and that non-citizens do not get a vote.
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Dr Sliptinschit
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 07:37 pm
@Teufel,
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Why do people like Trump and the GOP not want nor like postal ballots?


Liberal progressives are known to be cheaters. They will steal the ballot and change the vote to creepy Joe and the Ho.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 07:43 pm
@Dr Sliptinschit,
Nonsense. The cheats actually tend to be repubs, as in NC. Trump and Melania are going to voter by mail themselves, ******* liar hypovrites. And he's putting all his efforts into nobbling and gutting the USPS because he thinks he can't win if it functions as it should. Crooked, crooked POTUS>
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 07:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
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voter by mail themselves

Absentee voting is different. It has checks on it.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 07:57 pm
@coldjoint,
So does voting by mail in all its forms. trump is making it all up as he goes along, his usual fantasy scaremongering.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 08:18 pm
@MontereyJack,
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So does voting by mail in all its forms.

No it does not. They are making the rules as they go. The bullshit is not going to fly.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 08:36 pm
@MontereyJack,
You haven't shown in the slightest that this form of voting is secure.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 10:41 pm
@Brandon9000,
We've been mail-in voting since he civil war. there are in fact a number of safeguards developed over the years to make it more secure.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 10:44 pm
@coldjoint,
th ere have been safeguards and checks in place to make it secure for years improving as the tech gets better. It's scaaling up what is already in place and secure.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Aug, 2020 11:11 pm
@MontereyJack,
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th ere have been safeguards and checks in place to make it secure for years improving as the tech gets better

Good, now tell us what those things were. And did they happen before the pandemic?
Dr Sliptinschit
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2020 01:25 am
@MontereyJack,
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We've been mail-in voting since he civil war. there are in fact a number of safeguards developed over the years to make it more secure.


Democrats will always find a way to cheat.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2020 02:06 am
@Dr Sliptinschit,
Bullsllit. Rdepublicans are the ones that cheat, as in NC, voter suppression, and now with Trump and the USPS and his constant lying about everything
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2020 02:17 am
@coldjoint,
what the pandemic changes is the scale and the extension to new reasons to vote by mail. the procedure is the same basically, just more people can now do it.
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shug23
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2020 07:55 am
@maxdancona,
To answer your question :

how about a handful of folks (left or right), poor some lighter fluid in a handful of mailboxes and drop a match....do it every night around several cities or suburbs.........easy to do and low risk of getting caught.

wouldn't take vey many kooks, and social media would get the word out for copy-cats...
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2020 06:08 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
We've been mail-in voting since he civil war. there are in fact a number of safeguards developed over the years to make it more secure.

With an absentee ballot, you have to fill out paperwork to get it and one ballot goes straight to you. This, on the other hand, would involve generally available blank ballots, which is quite another matter. What stops someone from sending in or inserting ballots from non-existent people or non-citizen residents? I don't want a voting system which invites a Pandora's box of cheating.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 17 Aug, 2020 06:13 pm
@Brandon9000,
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I don't want a voting system which invites a Pandora's box of cheating.

Democrats cannot win unless they cheat. He is trying to justify it.
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