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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 05:57 am
”Last night, the Trump administration played the song “Garryowen” before the fireworks. “Garryowen” was the official battle tune, and nickname, of the 7th Cavalry Regiment, under the command of Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer. The tune has come to symbolize the wholesale massacre of Native Americans at the hands of white people. And someone in the Trump camp thought it would be a good idea to play that tune at an event staged on land stolen from Native Americans. (The Treaty of Fort Laramie, in 1868, gave the Sioux Nation possession of the Black Hills, but the U.S. Government broke the treaty). This is a special kind of dog whistle. It probably meant nothing to the MAGA folks in the crowd, but Native Americans know what that tune means.

He then started his speech, on land stolen from Native Americans (the Supreme Court ruled on that point), and mentioned that a memorial he would like to see is one for Andrew Jackson, who forced the Trail of Tears on Native Americans.

This is the most vile administration the country has ever seen, and none of it is a coincidence."

Please remember that Trump isn't this smart and keyed in. There's a team of people behind this human shitstain that knows exactly what they're doing to push the cruelest buttons at just the right moments. We've got to get them all out of there and it's not going to be easy or pretty.”

— From Mason Butler
Via Dimitra Stathopoulos
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 06:18 am
@edgarblythe,
Wow, talk about looking for conspiracies where one doesn't exist... TDS.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 06:36 am
@McGentrix,
Yeah. Go figure. How could Gen. Custer be so crass?
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 06:40 am
@edgarblythe,
OMG! Trump has blond hair... Custer has Blond hair! Trump must hate Native Americans!!!

You sound foolish spreading such ridiculous lies.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 06:43 am
@McGentrix,
It's you who need to become informed before jumping in like a jackass.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 06:56 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

It's you who need to become informed before jumping in like a jackass.


Informed about what? What is it that you believe that I am not informed about?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 09:19 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

I am with Mcgentrix on this one. Probably the playing of this fairly common military song was a coincidence. Maybe Trump was trolling liberals with this song intentionally.

Either way, this narrative will get liberals to froth at the mouth jumping up and down. But the far left doesn't need any more reasons to do that.

This story has no relevance as far as reaching out to middle American voters or in changing anyone's mind. It is just more outrage porn.


THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THE PLAYING OF GARRYOWEN (a song I play at least once a week as an inspirational piece) WAS A COINCIDENCE.


Not sure what was being said or by whom...but there was a purpose and a message.

I hope the decision was made by a military person...and meant to embarrass the moron-in-Chief. If so, it was neat.

More likely, one of Trump's underlings did it purposefully...as part of the standard Trump hate campaign.

Trump is FAR TOO STUPID to have picked it himself.

I expect at some point, he will say a variation on, "Who knew the song was associated with Custer."

By the way, my love of the song is one of the reasons Adam Vinatieri is my favorite NFL place kickers...even though he never played for my beloved GIANTS. His great great grandfather was the bandmaster for the Seventh Cavalry...and actually started out with Custer toward the Little Big Horn...but he and the band were sent back after leading the troops out of Fort Abraham Lincoln. Glad that happened, or the NFL would have been missing its best place kicker.

And, yeah...Custer sucked for killing so many native Americans.
lmur
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 10:07 am
@maxdancona,
As a non-American I don't have any skin in this game. Just chiming in to say that hearing a certain member being described as part of 'middle America' to be 'won over' is delusional to the point of hilarity. I'm chuckling now and probably won't cease for many many hours.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 10:12 am
@Frank Apisa,
YUP, BTW the 7th Cav had long stopped using Gerryowen because (IN THEIR WORDS FROM THE LEADERSHIP

"The Irish song Gerryowen,was adopted by The 7th Cavalry by GA Custer, as a battle tune used during the Indian wars . Native Americans look on this tune the same way as German people of the Jewish faith think about "Deutchland Uber Alles"

Putting ones self in anothers shoes is always difficult especially when it involves consulting historic facts and is moronically insensitive at the least. WHY was this tune chosen to be played in a site located in the Black Hills.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 10:32 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THE PLAYING OF GARRYOWEN (a song I play at least once a week as an inspirational piece) WAS A COINCIDENCE.


I have no way of judging whether this is true or not. How often is the song played in similar contexts?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 10:52 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Trump is FAR TOO STUPID to have picked it himself.


I don’t know. John Oliver pointed out that for all of Trump’s ignorance in world affairs, politics, history geography, basic hygiene etc.etc. he’s the ******* library of Alexandria when it comes to racist iconography.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 01:17 pm
I don't believe he thought of it, but he did what he always does and opted for insults and derision once the notion was fed to him.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 01:22 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Quote:
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THE PLAYING OF GARRYOWEN (a song I play at least once a week as an inspirational piece) WAS A COINCIDENCE.


I have no way of judging whether this is true or not. How often is the song played in similar contexts?



In the context of a political rally?

Unless Custer was running...I doubt ever.

Might be, but it is more a marching field tune.

We may never know the full story. My remark was over the top. I cannot know that the playing was not a coincidence.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 01:24 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:


YUP, BTW the 7th Cav had long stopped using Gerryowen because (IN THEIR WORDS FROM THE LEADERSHIP

"The Irish song Gerryowen,was adopted by The 7th Cavalry by GA Custer, as a battle tune used during the Indian wars . Native Americans look on this tune the same way as German people of the Jewish faith think about "Deutchland Uber Alles"

Putting ones self in anothers shoes is always difficult especially when it involves consulting historic facts and is moronically insensitive at the least. WHY was this tune chosen to be played in a site located in the Black Hills.


Didn't realize they no longer use it as a regimental anthem, FM. Thanks.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 01:25 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

Trump is FAR TOO STUPID to have picked it himself.


I don’t know. John Oliver pointed out that for all of Trump’s ignorance in world affairs, politics, history geography, basic hygiene etc.etc. he’s the ******* library of Alexandria when it comes to racist iconography.


Yup. John Oliver is correct about that.

My bad.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 01:44 pm
Whether this song was played to troll the left, or troll Trump, or as a stupid mistake or a coincidence doesn't matter.

It is outrage porn, and not productive to the task at hand. If it isn't going to help us win the election, then let it go.

farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 01:55 pm
@Frank Apisa,
In 1968, the 100th Anniversary of the Washita massacre, the Commander of the 7th Cav gave his Gerryowen Pin to the Lakota chiefs in a tearful ceremony where the US army helped locate and return numbers of Native bodies among those killed at Washita. The US 7th cav , after the battle in 1868 had taken several bodies and had them preserved for display in museums including the Field , Smithsonian and the AMNH. Imagine that, we actually mummified kids to show as "Exhibits" in the highest end science museums.
The 7thcav had then officially taken Gerryowen out of its band's playlist, out of a sign respect and deep sorrow of the reprisals against the entire Lakota Nation.

It was then that the "patriation" programs where Indian children were forced to only speak English and were removed from their families, also were gradually taken down. Weve treated the Native Americans as badly as Australians treated their aboriginal populations and the Japanese and Chinese dealt with their own .
I think a president should have advisors about him who are either smart enough to demand the use of symbology during his "Castro Speeches" , or be vain enough to loudly resign because the president is a total MORON.
Id love to resign publically from his cabal of incompetence.(Covid team notwithstanding)



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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 01:58 pm
@maxdancona,
Quote:

It is outrage porn, and not productive to the task at hand. If it isn't going to help us win the election, then let it go
Facts are facts max. You keep workin on the election , thats good.However, sometimes people must be reminded of history whether it satisfies them or not
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2020 02:35 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:


Whether this song was played to troll the left, or troll Trump, or as a stupid mistake or a coincidence doesn't matter.

It is outrage porn, and not productive to the task at hand. If it isn't going to help us win the election, then let it go.


You seem convinced that somehow we can work with the "them"...or reach a reasonable understanding with "them."

The "them" in question are continued supporters of Trump...and if you think there is any give in "them" you are kidding yourself.

They must be battled with the same ferocity and dedication we should be bringing to our battle against the coronavirus...because they are more deadly than the coronavirus.

Being reasonable and considerate with that lot will get you nothing.


 

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