What do you worship?

@Fil Albuquerque,

You must interpret worship differently than I do.

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Perhaps pear recognition

No. My ability to recognize a pear when I see one is not something I worship. I just kind of look at that as something bestowed upon me at birth.

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@Glennn,

Oh yes, indeed I fully agree we have a different grasp on the concept of what "worshiping" entails...you go by the book right? Worshipping functionally speaking, simply means or refers to that which is most important to you, what occupies your mental space most of the time, what drives you and your modus operandi, what has true palpable meaning to you.
By the way, I was not referring to your ability to recognize a peer, but rather to have the recognition of your peers, a sense of belonging, and all the typical tribal shenanigans that make you feel comfortable and fuzzy inside when you are small-minded. Like the limelight?
Let me put yet another spin on the talk. What would rock you to the core and shake you down like a rag dol that you or we as a species could lose tomorrow permanently? A piece of specific music? A close person? The rain? An equation?

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@Fil Albuquerque,

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...comfortable and fuzzy inside when you're small minded.

Who among us knows that the person is small minded? Maybe they're connected in some manner in which the majority of people are not. There's no way of knowing (unless these things are revealed in an afterlife).

For myself, it was only in my younger days that I truly worshipped. Back then, I was a Jewish/Methodist/Rosicrucian. (Mother tried to have all bases covered). It gave me a solid spiritual foundation; which I've found to be good over the years.

Over time, my beliefs of and on the universes has changed. The basics still exist, although, I left the Methodist church decades ago and never had a solid foundation of Judaism and didn't quite know what to make of Rosicrucians...I recall my mother had a weekly ritual of sitting in a dark room in front of a mirror while an incense cone burned as she meditated. It seemed odd to me; but, maybe it was her connection...

These days I refer to myself as a Deist.

Worship? Nothing that I'm aware of.

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@Sturgis,

Thank you for sharing your experience Sturgis!
I have no logical conception of an afterlife other than some sort of twisted fractal that comes to repeat all the variants of my possible Rubiks cube arrangements in a cyclic model of the Universe without I ever come to remember that "I" was here before...I call that my Archetype or if you will very loosely my "soul"...a poor man concept of the soul for me it is as far as I am willing to go without trumping logic all over! As for Paradise and living forever and stuff like that just no....the idea of living forever is brutal and scary! Death is a blessing and forgetting that some sort of twisted version of you will come back again ad infinitum a bigger blessing still! Do I forsake LIFE for what it is in this eternal cosmic dance? No!

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I have no use for spiritualism, deism, organized religion. It all hangs on personal perception, fed and influenced by innate perception, experience, and learning. I try to be tolerant about it. The only reason I have to allow myself to be labeled as atheist is to satisfy the demands made on me by others. I prefer to just be a person without all the hubbub.

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@edgarblythe,

Well, you have spoken about and explained what does not move you and I feel ya we are more or less in the same square...now I was wondering about what does move you forward? What fils your awareness as a human being in this day and age?

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I am fighting against disillusion with our species but not feeling optimistic. I spend most of my time trying to support the causes and persons that work to reverse the damage to society and the environment. Being a retired old man in a mobile home park makes me a tiny voice, but like the mouse in the field, I desire safe harbor and perpetuation and will not give up trying.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

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Oh yes, indeed I fully agree we have a different grasp on the concept of what "worshiping" entails

You wanted to know what I worship. You should have looked up the word "worship" before criticizing my answer to that question.

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Worshipping functionally speaking, simply means or refers to that which is most important to you

If you actually understood the meaning of the word, you would know that it does not refer to that which is most important to you.

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By the way, I was not referring to your ability to recognize a peer

Yeah, I know. You misspelled the word peer (pear) and I was having fun with you. Unfortunately, some people are so serious and self-centered when it comes to figuring things out that they miss what's right in front of them, making it not at all too difficult to determine their values.

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all the typical tribal shenanigans that make you feel comfortable and fuzzy inside when you are small-minded. Like the limelight?

Thank you for demonstrating what a big mind has to offer.

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What would rock you to the core and shake you down like a rag dol that you or we as a species could lose tomorrow permanently?

A sense of humor. Why do you ask?

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@Glennn,

Looking up the word worship? ...wow Glennn well done, you win the day. A++ in Literature for you!
Have a pear and be happy!

PS - By the way in the opening post it was very very clear where I was heading with the word!
It seems you worship narrow-minded linguistics and semantic disputes!
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Worship (n.)

Old English worðscip, wurðscip (Anglian), weorðscipe (West Saxon) "condition of being worthy, dignity, glory, distinction, honor, renown," from weorð "worthy" (see worth) + -scipe (see -ship). Sense of "reverence paid to a supernatural or divine being" is first recorded c. 1300. The original sense is preserved in the title worshipful "honorable" (c. 1300).

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@edgarblythe,

I praise your efforts and I certainly pay close attention to your voice when you speak up your mind Edgar, keep up the good work!

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Thank you. It's mutual, although I don't have your level of education to always keep up.

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@edgarblythe,

I have a tenth of your experience and your wit Edgar! My education is more or less okeish I guess as I spend a huge amount of time looking for information, nowadays mostly video, but it still has many gaps, I am a generalist and I pay a price for that. I also wish my memory was way better, too many things to remember...sadly my little obsession with getting to the bottom of things beyond common sense approaches has not been great for my mental and emotional health. One should not bite more than one can eat...digestions become hard. I am currently going through a depression and some symptoms of PTSD...historycally I always had trouble to fell asleep but these days my sleeping clock is totally out of sync. Anyway enough with my complaining glad you dropped by!

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@Fil Albuquerque,

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you win the day.

I'm sorry that using the wrong word in the title of your thread makes you feel like a loser.

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It seems you worship narrow-minded linguistics and semantic disputes!

You misused the word "worship." And in retaliation for my pointing it out to you, you want to characterize me as someone who worships the correct use of words. All that's happened here, Fil, is that you used the wrong word.

Also, your opening post refers to things that one values. Even the definition you just posted does not refer to those things.

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I worshiped for a long long time the idea that it was possible,

So tell me, Fil, is it possible to worship an idea according to the definition that you yourself posted?

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@Glennn,

I disagree here with youGlennn.

Fil Albuquerque defined the thought quite well. At least in my reading of the OP.

I will not are further to this thread as it is becoming clear, Glennn is looking only to argue and I will not be part of such behavior.

Thanks Fil Albuquerque for creating this thread and topic. It still has potential.

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@Sturgis,

He means to say that he wants to discuss the thoughts and ideas that we hold on to that helps to give this life meaning. Worship does not apply to that. That's why my first post in this thread clarified that worship is basically the act of bowing down to an entity, followed by the question: Who is worthy of worship? Fil suggested that money, power, or control would fit the bill. It seems that you are supporting his misconception of the term, "worship."

And so since it is obvious that this thread has nothing to do with worship, I'll leave it to those who believe that it does.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

I have a tenth of your experience and your wit Edgar! My education is more or less okeish I guess as I spend a huge amount of time looking for information, nowadays mostly video, but it still has many gaps, I am a generalist and I pay a price for that. I also wish my memory was way better, too many things to remember...sadly my little obsession with getting to the bottom of things beyond common sense approaches has not been great for my mental and emotional health. One should not bite more than one can eat...digestions become hard. I am currently going through a depression and some symptoms of PTSD...historycally I always had trouble to fell asleep but these days my sleeping clock is
totally out of sync. Anyway enough with my complaining glad you
dropped by!

My formal education ended weeks before I turned 16. I got a GED in the Navy. Everything else is a patchwork of experience and reading.

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@Glennn,

I will answer with an appropriate cliché:
Who is worthy of worship? No one and everyone! I think Humanism is about that frontier.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Correct. Either everything is sacred, or nothing is sacred. And it doesn't matter which is true.

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@Fil Albuquerque,

My apologies to you and the other posters here. Your opening post is most worthy of discussion. I am going to be gone for the night, but I will return and contribute something worthy of the subject, as I do have thoughts on it.

Again, my apologies . . .

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@izzythepush,

I found a stray kitten well actually a police woman found it and was checking to see if it belonged to one of the neighbors. The kitten was tiny, solid black with beautiful aqua colored eyes. The officer said she would take it to animal control, and I got panicky because they often put down animals because they were so over crowded. We kept the cat, tried to find her home...short of that .... a new home. I didn't realize the cat had fleas, and by the time I figured that out the fleas were making themselves at home.

I decided to treat the fleas myself, bought a flea killing shampoo and attempted to wash the cat. I had no idea a 2 pound could be so strong and unwilling to cooperate. By the time my hands looked like hamburger I realized it was time for the professionals.

Rookie mistake, I had never had an animal with a flea infestation, and I was clueless how demented it was to try and wash a kitty.

I did find her a home with a friend from work, she was much better equipped (smarter) for the little ball of fluff.

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