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Impeachment: The Process Begins

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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 12:02 pm
@oralloy,
No iits an abuse of power when it's done for personal gain and in an attempt to nobble an election rather than doing it for the national interest.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 12:06 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
No iits an abuse of power

The abuse of power belongs to the House and the MSM, not Trump.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 12:09 pm
@coldjoint,
Obama was pretty even handed. That's what pi5sses you off. His agencies gave people who had gotten shafted for decades a more equal voice and you uber rightists couldn't stand it.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 12:11 pm
@oralloy,
Always knew you favored communist tactics.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 12:13 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Obama was pretty even handed.

Obama was a traitor. History will say so.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 01:30 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Trump was investigated for abusing the office of POTUS for personal gain.

If it is an abuse for Trump to try to investigate the Bidens for personal gain, then it is likewise an abuse for the Democrats to investigate Trump for personal gain.

How do you figure?

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Biden was acting on behalf of the US government for an end that the government and other countries and international organizations wanted.

So it's OK to do it when it is for a goal that the left agrees with, but a horrible crime to do it when it is for a goal that the left dislikes?

It isn't about left/right, it's about propriety and abuse of power for personal gain.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 01:32 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
other countries and international organizations wanted.

Wanted his crackhead son to make millions and his brother to get a huge contract in Iraq?

Wanted Ukraine to reign in their corrupt PG.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 01:36 pm
@InfraBlue,
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Wanted Ukraine to reign in their corrupt PG.

Bullshit. But go ahead and believe it, if you wish. Too much information out there showing Biden is corrupt.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 02:21 pm
@coldjoint,
Total utter and unvarnished horseshit. Zero truth value.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 02:45 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Zero truth value.

Take out the truth and it is a zero. Biden is corrupt and your posts are redundant. Their value is also 0.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 04:12 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
oralloy wrote:
If it is an abuse for Trump to try to investigate the Bidens for personal gain, then it is likewise an abuse for the Democrats to investigate Trump for personal gain.

How do you figure?

Democrats are not above the law. What's an abuse of power if Mr. Trump does it, is also an abuse of power if Democrats do it.


InfraBlue wrote:
It isn't about left/right, it's about propriety and abuse of power for personal gain.

Strangely the issue of "propriety and personal gain" seems to depend entirely on whether the left agrees with the goal of the investigation.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 04:15 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
No its an abuse of power when it's done for personal gain and in an attempt to nobble an election rather than doing it for the national interest.

That means that this impeachment circus is an abuse of power by Democrats.

There is no proof however that Mr. Trump's attempt to have the Bidens investigated was for personal gain.


Republicans should go strongly negative with attack ads against any pro-impeachment Democrat in a conservative congressional district. Congressmen who abuse their power should be voted out of office.

If Republicans get a majority in the House again after the 2020 election, they can use the power of the majority to expel any witch hunters who were not already voted out of office.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 04:29 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Wanted Ukraine to reign in their corrupt PG.

Bullshit. But go ahead and believe it, if you wish. Too much information out there showing Biden is corrupt.

Why not believe it? Taking as a given your claim that Biden is corrupt, what does that have to do with reining in Ukraine's corrupt PG that other countries and entities also wanted?
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 04:29 pm
@coldjoint,
And your losts are always binkerdd partisan nonsense.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 04:31 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
oralloy wrote:
If it is an abuse for Trump to try to investigate the Bidens for personal gain, then it is likewise an abuse for the Democrats to investigate Trump for personal gain.

How do you figure?

Democrats are not above the law. What's an abuse of power if Mr. Trump does it, is also an abuse of power if Democrats do it.

How are Democrats abusing power?

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
It isn't about left/right, it's about propriety and abuse of power for personal gain.

Strangely the issue of "propriety and personal gain" seems to depend entirely on whether the left agrees with the goal of the investigation.

How do you figure that?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 04:32 pm
@oralloy,
Gee that sounds exactly like the way the 8gop feels about all the partisan investigations they've been running.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 04:35 pm
@oralloy,
Of course when dems win the house Senate and presidency in 2020 none of that will happen.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 04:44 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

Of course when dems win the house Senate and presidency in 2020 none of that will happen.


Are you an American? If you are, you know that will never happen. You're more likely to be hit by lightning while simultaneously being hit by a train and attacked by a velociraptor.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 04:55 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

MontereyJack wrote:

Of course when dems win the house Senate and presidency in 2020 none of that will happen.


Are you an American? If you are, you know that will never happen. You're more likely to be hit by lightning while simultaneously being hit by a train and attacked by a velociraptor.


The markets are saying the probability of this is about 27%. It isn't probable, but at those odds I would be looking for velociraptor proof pants just in case.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jan, 2020 05:05 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Of course when dems win the house Senate and presidency in 2020 none of that will happen.

Not much chance of that.

And if pro-impeachment Democrats in conservative districts are defeated, that could put the House back under Republican control. Thus my advice regarding strongly-negative attack ads in these districts.
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