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Finally, Fox "News" admits the truth

 
 
JTT
 
Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 04:30 am
http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/31/fox_news_admits_its_in_bed_with_karl_rove.php#more

May 31, 2005

Fox News Admits It's In Bed With Karl Rove

Did you know that Fox News is a "private channel"? That's what Fox's London bureau chief, Scott Norvell said in an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal Europe on May 20, 2005. He also wrote this:

"Even we at Fox News manage to get some lefties on the air occasionally, and often let them finish their sentences before we club them to death and feed the scraps to Karl Rove and Bill O'Reilly."



Comment: What unmitigated arrogance. (l) If Fox thinks it's a "private channel" it should get its butt off the public airwaves owned by each and every citizen of this country. (2) I'm glad Fox has finally admitted it cuts off, talks over, and generally makes "lefties" look bad when they appear there. We've been writing about that for a year now, and Outfoxed illustrated it, all while Fox innocently denied doing any such thing. (3) No, people don't always "know what they're getting." We get endless letters here from people who absolutely insist that Fox News is the only "fair and balanced" network on television. That's the danger of Fox. Fox brainwashes people while it simultaneously convinces them that its "fair and balanced." If Fox wants to make sure people "know what they're getting," it should immediately drop the "fair and balanced" line and come up with something new, like "Watch Fox. We Propagandize for the Radical Right."

It looks like we News Hounds, and a lot of other people, have had Fox's number for quite some time now. Thank you Mr. Norvell for confirming it. Now that the truth is out, maybe we can get on with making sure everyone knows it, so those who watch thinking they're watching "fair and balanced news" can finally begin to know the truth about "what they're getting."
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 04:33 am
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http://slate.msn.com/id/2119864/#ContinueArticle


Fox News Admits Bias!
Its London bureau chief blurts out the political slant that dare not speak its name.

By Timothy Noah
Posted Tuesday, May 31, 2005, at 9:40 AM PT


Sound the klaxons! Corporate Message breakdown at Fox News! This is not a drill. Repeat: This is not a drill. Assume battle stations! Fire in the hole! A-woo-ga! A-woo-ga!

The usually disciplined foot soldiers at Fox News have long maintained that their news organization is not biased in favor of conservatism. This charade is so important to Fox News that the company has actually sought to trademark the phrase "fair and balanced" (which is a bit like Richard Nixon trademarking the phrase "not a crook"). No fair-minded person actually believes that Fox News is unbiased, so pretending that it is calls for steely corporate resolve. On occasion, this vigilance pays off. Last year, for example, the Wall Street Journal actually ran a correction after its news pages described Fox News, accurately, as "a network sympathetic to the Bush cause and popular with Republicans." Getting one of this country's most prestigious newspapers to state that up is down and black is white is no small public-relations victory, and if we can't admire Fox News' candor, we can at least marvel at its ability to remain on message. Or rather, we could admire it, before Scott Norvell went and shot his big mouth off.

Norvell is London bureau chief for Fox News, and on May 20 he let the mask slip in, of all places, the Wall Street Journal. So far, the damage has been contained, because Norvell's comments?-in an op-ed he wrote decrying left-wing bias at the BBC?-appeared only in the Journal's European edition. But Chatterbox's agents are everywhere.

Here is what Norvell fessed up to in the May 20 Wall Street Journal Europe:

Even we at Fox News manage to get some lefties on the air occasionally, and often let them finish their sentences before we club them to death and feed the scraps to Karl Rove and Bill O'Reilly. And those who hate us can take solace in the fact that they aren't subsidizing Bill's bombast; we payers of the BBC license fee don't enjoy that peace of mind.

Fox News is, after all, a private channel and our presenters are quite open about where they stand on particular stories. That's our appeal. People watch us because they know what they are getting. The Beeb's institutionalized leftism would be easier to tolerate if the corporation was a little more honest about it.

Norvell never says the word "conservative" in describing "where [Fox's anchorpeople] stand on particular stories," or what Fox's viewers "know … they are getting." But in context, Norvell clearly is using the example of Fox News to argue that political bias is acceptable when it isn't subsidized by the public (as his op-ed's target, the leftish BBC, is), and when the bias is acknowledged. Norvell's little joke about clubbing lefties to death should satisfy even the most literal-minded that the bias Norvell describes is a conservative one. (Lord only knows where Norvell acquired the erroneous belief that Fox News is "honest" about its conservative slant; perhaps he's so used to Fox's protestations of objectivity being ignored that he literally forgot that they continue to be uttered.)

I don't think it's too much of an exaggeration to compare Norvell's op-ed to the Vatican's belated admission, after 359 years, that Galileo had it right when he said the earth revolved around the sun. Now how about a prime time seppuku by Fox News chief Roger Ailes? Failing that, maybe ABC News could lend Barbara Walters or Diane Sawyer for Ailes' weepy confession. Hey, there, funny face, where's the broken-winged sparrow underneath that tough-guy exterior? Fox News has little to lose in terms of credibility?-sensible viewers discounted Fox News for conservative bias years ago?-and everything to gain in terms of heightened visibility. Say it with me, Roger: "Eppur si muove!" Doesn't that feel good?


Timothy Noah writes "Chatterbox" for Slate.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 06:38 am
I suspect "melanie" Does not understand the difference between public and private tv.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 06:46 am
Well it's always been my contention that both Rove and O Reilly can just eat me.....
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 07:08 am
There's nothing private about television. But I'm not so dense as to not recognize that they meant the company that owns the channel is not publicly funded. Of course, the public still owns the air waves.

What's really interesting about the op-ed posted is that it seems to indicate that the campaign against the last remaining dissenting voices (public media) is branching overseas.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 07:15 am
McGentrix wrote:
I suspect "melanie" Does not understand the difference between public and private tv.


McG, armed with his Karl Rove Spin Machine, [patent pending] winds it up and launches a little dust devil, hoping it will morph into a tornado and the spin will move the story to a place where it's a bit more manageable.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 07:18 am
Then pats self on the back for being a good soldier in the fight against whatever it is we're fighting against now.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 07:27 am
It's too early to be so patronizing. I'd ask that you wait until after noon EST for that in the future...
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 07:33 am
It's noon somewhere.

Off to get more coffee so I won't be so snippy. Top o'the morning to you, McG.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 07:37 am
It is nearly midnight here.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 07:57 am
This is what I need in the morning ... gossip! Keep it coming. I just can't get enough.
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fishin
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 03:32 pm
Re: Finally, Fox "News" admits the truth
JTT wrote:
Comment: What unmitigated arrogance. (l) If Fox thinks it's a "private channel" it should get its butt off the public airwaves owned by each and every citizen of this country.


Just a point of clarification - He referred to "FOX News" as a private channel which is exactly what it is. There is the FOX Network which operates on the public airwaves and there is a seperate Fox News network that is a cable-only channel just like FOX Sports does. (Some of the local FOX TV affiliates do broadcast some FOX News content but that doesn't make FOX News public.)
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 03:35 pm
Isn't just Fox News in itself an oxymoron?
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 05:07 pm
everybody knows that fox news leans hard right. the difference is that most of us say so and some won't admit it. but that's just part of the game.

as a sidebar, i noticed the other day during his very informative press party in the rose garden, that dubya no longer uses the term "homicide bomber" and has reverted to "suicide bomber".

i mention it because the only news channel i've ever heard use the "homicide bomber" buzz phrase is fox news.

i'm sure it's just a coincidence Laughing
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 05:09 pm
Anybody here seen The Simpsons episode in which Krusty runs for Congress? The "debate" on Fox News is just high-larious . . .
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tommrr
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 10:38 am
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
everybody knows that fox news leans hard right. the difference is that most of us say so and some won't admit it. but that's just part of the game.

as a sidebar, i noticed the other day during his very informative press party in the rose garden, that dubya no longer uses the term "homicide bomber" and has reverted to "suicide bomber".

i mention it because the only news channel i've ever heard use the "homicide bomber" buzz phrase is fox news.

i'm sure it's just a coincidence Laughing

Well, if you think about it, homicide bomber is a lot more accurate in the description. If a person is "suicide" bomber, then the intent would be to kill him/her self. Not the case. They are trying to take out as many as possible, therefore a "homicide" bomber. I personally prefer the term "organic delivery system".
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 12:13 pm
tommrr wrote:

Well, if you think about it, homicide bomber is a lot more accurate in the description. If a person is "suicide" bomber, then the intent would be to kill him/her self. Not the case. They are trying to take out as many as possible, therefore a "homicide" bomber. I personally prefer the term "organic delivery system".


"homicide bomber" is a lot less accurate. Timothy McVeigh was a homicide bomber. The roadside bombs in Iraq are constructed by homicide bombers. Yet they are obviously not included under "suicide bomber."

"Suicide bomber" has for years and decades meant someone willing to die while exploding a device attached to themselves. The intent to kill and maim others is understood in its common meaning.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 01:04 pm
parados wrote:
tommrr wrote:

Well, if you think about it, homicide bomber is a lot more accurate in the description. If a person is "suicide" bomber, then the intent would be to kill him/her self. Not the case. They are trying to take out as many as possible, therefore a "homicide" bomber. I personally prefer the term "organic delivery system".


"homicide bomber" is a lot less accurate. Timothy McVeigh was a homicide bomber. The roadside bombs in Iraq are constructed by homicide bombers. Yet they are obviously not included under "suicide bomber."

"Suicide bomber" has for years and decades meant someone willing to die while exploding a device attached to themselves. The intent to kill and maim others is understood in its common meaning.


all the more reason that it had to be stamped out and re-loquted in "bush speak".
Laughing
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