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Soldier gets purple heart...then discharged because he's gay

 
 
Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 08:31 am
Ticomaya wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:


Your head might hurt because you don't like the policy, but there's nothing more to this than that. ... except it makes for a nice story for the media because it involves a soldier who won a purple heart.


I think au1929 hit it on the head...this shouldn't be about this particular case so much as it should be about having gays in the military.


I doubt very much that Au hit it on the head, because I think there is more behind the policy than "bible thumpers." Anyone ever research the reason for the policy, or a ban on gays in the military?


No no, not the bible thumper thing. The part about :

au1929 wrote:
Like it or not this thread baits the question whether gays should or should not be allowed to serve in the armed forces. The fact that this individual was discharged because of his being openly gay after being wounded is irrelevant.


It really isn't about this guy. It's about whether gays should be openly accepted in the military.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 08:35 am
Actually, Joe, I think the military is more interested in silent homosexuals than honest homosexuals, if the truth be told. I'm fairly certain the military didn't ask Sgt. Stout to promise to never tell anyone about his homosexuality; he was probably instructed just to keep his mouth shut. When he decided to become open about his homosexuality, rather than become a liar, he became a blabbermouth, in violation of the policy.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 08:41 am
Bella Dea wrote:
No no, not the bible thumper thing. The part about :

au1929 wrote:
Like it or not this thread baits the question whether gays should or should not be allowed to serve in the armed forces. The fact that this individual was discharged because of his being openly gay after being wounded is irrelevant.


It really isn't about this guy. It's about whether gays should be openly accepted in the military.


Ah ... okay ... yes, that is the underlying question.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 08:50 am
Ticomaya wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
No no, not the bible thumper thing. The part about :

au1929 wrote:
Like it or not this thread baits the question whether gays should or should not be allowed to serve in the armed forces. The fact that this individual was discharged because of his being openly gay after being wounded is irrelevant.


It really isn't about this guy. It's about whether gays should be openly accepted in the military.


Ah ... okay ... yes, that is the underlying question.


Yup. I just don't get the mentality behind no open gays in the military. Any one wanna elaborate on that?
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candidone1
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 08:50 am
Ticomaya wrote:

I doubt very much that Au hit it on the head, because I think there is more behind the policy than "bible thumpers." Anyone ever research the reason for the policy, or a ban on gays in the military?


Yup:

Quote:
So why ban self-confessed gay GIs? Three reasons are usually offered. FirstSecond, allowing gays to serve openly could actually be bad for recruitment: the extra homosexuals would be outnumbered by the homophobic Americans thus deterred. The third reason is more abstract. Successful armies reflect the mores of the societies from which they are drawn, and America, it is said, is unwilling to allow its heroes to be gay


Source
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 08:53 am
candidone1 wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:

I doubt very much that Au hit it on the head, because I think there is more behind the policy than "bible thumpers." Anyone ever research the reason for the policy, or a ban on gays in the military?


Yup:

Quote:
So why ban self-confessed gay GIs? Three reasons are usually offered. FirstSecond, allowing gays to serve openly could actually be bad for recruitment: the extra homosexuals would be outnumbered by the homophobic Americans thus deterred. The third reason is more abstract. Successful armies reflect the mores of the societies from which they are drawn, and America, it is said, is unwilling to allow its heroes to be gay


Source


thanks!
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 09:00 am
If I hated homosexuals and felt they were a corrupting influence I would get as many of them into service as possible and then stick 'em on the front lines, so they'd be the first eliminated.

That's the trouble with bigots. Stupid. Don't look at the big picture.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 09:01 am
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
If I hated homosexuals and felt they were a corrupting influence I would get as many of them into service as possible and then stick 'em on the front lines, so they'd be the first eliminated.

That's the trouble with bigots. Stupid. Don't look at the big picture.


Or perhaps your thesis is not accurate.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 09:29 am
If the government decides or is forced to reinstate the draft. I would imagine the homosexual population in the US will increase significantly. Easy way to beat the draft.
That is unless they make you perform to prove it. :wink: Rolling Eyes
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2005 09:31 am
au1929 wrote:
If the government decides or is forced to reinstate the draft. I would imagine the homosexual population in the US will increase significantly. Easy way to beat the draft.
That is unless they make you perform to prove it. :wink: Rolling Eyes


Way to find the silver lining, au. Nice job.
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