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Height: Women/Men?

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:10 pm
(laughing, smorgs...)
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smorgs
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:11 pm
osso, the eye isn't mine - not enough mascara. Why I started a threas saying 'this eye isn't mine' :wink:
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:14 pm
Ahhh. Now I'll check that out.
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extra medium
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:40 pm
...
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:44 pm
I've seen it extra....you are a very handsome man.
For some reason I thought you're still around college age...
you're not! Wink
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CodeBorg
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:45 pm
Small excerpt from a fascinating article about the history of height...

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040405fa_fact
Quote:
The Netherlands, as any European can tell you, has become a land of giants. In a century's time, the Dutch have gone from being among the smallest people in Europe to the largest in the world. The men now average six feet one?-seven inches taller than in van Gogh's day?-and the women five feet eight. The national organization of tall people, Klub Lange Mensen, has considerable lobbying power. From Rotterdam to Eindhoven, ceilings have had to be lifted, furniture redesigned, lintels raised to keep foreheads from smacking them. Many hotels now offer twenty-centimetre bed extensions, and ambulances on occasion must keep their back doors open, to allow for patients' legs. "We will not go through the ceiling," the pediatrician Hans van Wieringen assured me, after summarizing national height surveys that he had coördinated. "But it is possible that we will grow another ten centimetres."
[...]

Tall men, a series of studies has shown, benefit from a significant bias. They get married sooner, get promoted quicker, and earn higher wages. According to one recent study, the average six-foot worker earns a hundred and sixty-six thousand dollars more, over a thirty-year period, than his five-foot-five-inch counterpart?-about eight hundred dollars more per inch per year. Short men are unlucky in politics (only five of forty-three Presidents have been shorter than average) and unluckier in love. A survey of some six thousand adolescents in the nineteen-sixties showed that the tallest boys were the first to get dates. The only ones more successful were those who got to choose their own clothes.
[...]

While heights in Europe continued to climb, Komlos said, "the U.S. just went flat." In the First World War, the average American soldier was still two inches taller than the average German. But sometime around 1955 the situation began to reverse. The Germans and other Europeans went on to grow an extra two centimetres a decade, and some Asian populations several times more, yet Americans haven't grown taller in fifty years. By now, even the Japanese?-once the shortest industrialized people on earth?-have nearly caught up with us, and Northern Europeans are three inches taller and rising.

Okay, I'll stop pester spec'ing and go away now...





PS - extra medium, your link is so long that it blows this webpage out really wide!
Might you consider editting that post, using tinyurl.com to shorten it?
Or maybe use BBcode to give it a short title: "[url=SomeLongURL ]ShortTitle[ /url]"
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:47 pm
Quote:
The Germans and other Europeans went on to grow an extra two centimetres.....


That explains why I'm taller Wink
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extra medium
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:51 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
I've seen it extra....you are a very handsome man.
For some reason I thought you're still around college age...
you're not! Wink


Thank you.

Thats pretty funny. People thought I was a college aged girl!

what the hellllll?

Okayyyyy...now I have material to think about tonight, not to mention enough issues to make oh about 200 new topics here.

My best friend (who I've known since like age 8) lives in San Diego...sometimes I go there to visit him. We go hiking, etc. out in the desert...pretty fun.
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extra medium
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:52 pm
Codeborg, that is some great info...

reading...
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:54 pm
Well, we're looking forward to your next topics.

For now I say good night, I need some well deserved sleep.

Good Night! Wink
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extra medium
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2005 11:56 pm
smorgs wrote:
I thought you were a woman - because you post like a BIG GIRL'S BLOUSE...as we say here in manchester.

Only joking...I don't know why... I just made an assumption, maybe your posts are just too eloquent, insightful, measured and spelled right! Therefore...you are woman.

But now I know, I won't PM you about my periods!


A BIG GIRL'S BLOUSE???

ooohhh boy--I guess I asked for it. See, try to be a nice guy, and here's what you get: No more mr. nice guy! --->

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-big3.htm

"[Q] From Colin Alexander, New Zealand: "Big girl's blouse. How did this extraordinary pejorative come about? It is usually applied to males and seems to mean a milquetoast, but how?"
[A] For those in other parts of the English-speaking world who have never heard of this astonishing idiom, let me explain that it is heard now quite widely in Britain (and elsewhere, too, it seems), though it originated in the North of England.
I've been vaguely dreading somebody asking this question, because it is one of a set of Northern idioms that are quite impenetrable in their origins. Others are the exclamation of surprise, "well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs!" and the dismissive "all mouth and trousers".
People do indeed use it to mean an ineffectual or effeminate male, a weakling, though it is often used in a bantering or teasing way rather than as an out-and-out insult ("You can't drink Coke in a pub, you big girl's blouse!"; "Blokes who don't take on dares are big girl's blouses"). The American milquetoast isn't quite equivalent (since it has a greater emphasis on meekness rather than on an unmanly nature), but it's close.
It seems to have been first noticed in the 1960s. The first example in print we know of is from 1969, in a script of the British ITV network sitcom Nearest and Dearest (which ran from 1969 to 1972). This starred Jimmy Jewel as Eli Pledge and Hylda Baker as his spinster sister Nellie, who inherit a pickle-bottling factory in Colne, Lancashire. It was rough-and-ready northern humour, of the type conventionalised as gritty, and full of innuendo (plus malapropisms from Nellie).
It has been suggested that Hylda Baker invented the phrase in her stage act. If she didn't, where big girl's blouse came from is likely to remain a mystery. Coincidentally, Brian Edmondson e-mailed me to comment that his Liverpudlian father, who died in 1979, always said "he's flapping like a big girl's blouse". This conjures up an image of ineffectualness that is plausible as a extended idea from which the current version could have derived.
Other than that, your guess is as good as mine ..."
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extra medium
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 12:05 am
good night...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 12:06 am
I've never thought of you quite that way..
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extra medium
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 12:14 am
ossobuco wrote:
I've never thought of you quite that way..


Thanks--I think? Evil or Very Mad

But anyway, from now on I'm writin like Heminway or Kerouac or Jack London.
----
(shift)

screw em.

The only person I'll write flowery to from now on is my fellow understanding mystic, JLN.
(shift)

to everyone else, its a blunt almost rude minimalist Hemingway/London sprinkled with a Kerouac that cant be bothered with punctuation

only problem is i dont have the skill for that so it will probably read like a 3rd grade kids stuff

screw em.

and to be called a big girl's blouse by a friggin englishlady no less! hey i can be a big dumb ugly male merikan like the best of em Evil or Very Mad Drunk Evil or Very Mad Drunk Evil or Very Mad im part irish too smorg, can you keep up? Evil or Very Mad Drunk Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 12:16 am
Yeh, well, me too on the Irish.
You picked some good company, re JLN.
G'night.
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extra medium
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 12:19 am
Well see thats another thing we agree on. g'nite!
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tcis
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 12:59 am
extra medium wrote:
ossobuco wrote:
I've never thought of you quite that way..


Thanks--I think? Evil or Very Mad

But anyway, from now on I'm writin like Heminway or Kerouac or Jack London.
----
(shift)

screw em.

The only person I'll write flowery to from now on is my fellow understanding mystic, JLN.
(shift)

to everyone else, its a blunt almost rude minimalist Hemingway/London sprinkled with a Kerouac that cant be bothered with punctuation

only problem is i dont have the skill for that so it will probably read like a 3rd grade kids stuff

screw em.

and to be called a big girl's blouse by a friggin englishlady no less! hey i can be a big dumb ugly male merikan like the best of em Evil or Very Mad Drunk Evil or Very Mad Drunk Evil or Very Mad im part irish too smorg, can you keep up? Evil or Very Mad Drunk Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil


EM!

Don't go into your shell dude! I for one enjoy reading your posts.

Spiritual seekers are often mistaken for Big Girls Blouses and "milquetoast" and all that. Some would throw Dalai Lama & Buddha, & Gandhi & perhaps Jesus into that box....don't worry about it. Really--think about that.

Keep the faith & keep posting yer crap--some good & sometimes hilarious stuff man!
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extra medium
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 01:45 am
dang tcis you got me smilin as big as yer avatar.

thanks!
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 03:40 am
e.m.

The "big girl's blouse" expression was used by myself in a post to dear Lola about a month back.I was amazed that it flummoxed her.It is common here in the Yucky.It denotes a sort of rugby playing mummy's boy.Tough exterior but as soft as those loose white blouses on 46 double D cup girls underneath if you know what I mean!It wouldn't normally be used about somebody obviously effeminate.

I never heard of "milquetoast".
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Fri 20 May, 2005 08:33 am
Thank you for the explanation spendius.
I never heard of it and was too tired to ask last night.

Yes, extra M we all like to read you Wink
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