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So what was YOUR opinion of Star Wars, Episode III

 
 
Pantalones
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 12:48 pm
I saw it yesterday and while I liked it, I thought I could be so much better. As said the dialogues were deficient most of the time but most actions scenes make up for it (the first one on the air fighters was boring).

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When did R2 become this powerful?

There were just too many times times where I justified an action 'because of the dark side'.


At the end, it entertained me and it was what I'd expected.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2005 08:51 pm
"So what was YOUR opinion of Star Wars, Episode III"

One of the most boring events of my lifetime. Boring to the point that it became so displeasurable that it mitigated against its own boredom.
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Algis Kemezys
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2005 09:13 pm
Well I was getting geared up for it .Thought maybe this time again.Then I flicked on the TV and Star Wars was playing.I thought it was a clip from an entertainment program but it keep going.Then i realized it was the Clone one the one I never saw. And these new pictures are just too over wraught , too imposible to deal with,and like Craven says it caves in on itself.Even Yoda seemed ridiculous.I don't think I could face the last one just yet.Naw I am going to wait till it comes to our very own fantastic Dollar Cinema.Where everything costs a dollar.And it's in a huge old theatre with 500 seats or more.And they are projecting film. Truely Ticket,Popocorn and Mineralwater comes to only 3.00$
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 08:48 am
When did Padme become such a wimp? She kicked butt in the first and second movies. Then she gets pregnant and loses her will to live? Give me a break.

Obi Wan destroys his "brother" and then leaves him to burn to death? Give me another break.

Finally, Obi Wan and Yoda go into hiding and do nothing for 18 years? Urk. My suspension of disbelief just choked to death.
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Pantalones
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 10:00 am
Your second question is answered by:

It's the dark side.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 10:04 am
and your first by "hormones"....
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 03:40 pm
Spare me the extraneous "human" element in these films, especially when it has little bearing on the plot.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 03:41 pm
I enjoyed it. Good sci-fi.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 03:48 pm
I will likely agree with you, Brandon. As space opera it excels -- it was never really meant to be that profound. It's when Lucas has gotten dangerously close to silly pretenses in I and II that things fall apart.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 04:08 pm
As an amusing side note, I recently read in a scientific magazine, a discussion of the non-existent science of projection holography, so prevalent in cinema. Apparently a company has come up with a clever trick that looks like a projection hologram unless you look closely. What amused me was that the article was titled, "Help Me, Obi-wan Kenobe. You're My Only Hope."
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 05:03 pm
The projection holograms at the Haunted House ride at Disneyland are better looking than the "Star Wars" CGI effects.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:25 am
JoeFX wrote:

When did R2 become this powerful?



Yeah, he wasn't like this in the later (or earlier) episodes. I thought the same thing. He was almost....witty.....
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:26 am
DrewDad wrote:
When did Padme become such a wimp? She kicked butt in the first and second movies. Then she gets pregnant and loses her will to live? Give me a break.



Anakin destroyed her will to live. At least, losing him did.



When did I become a Star Wars geek? Shocked

Erase all answers. I know nothing.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:12 am
Honey--if I'd had access to that beautiful man on a regular basis--and then he chose the Dark Side--or anything else over me--I'd want to die, too.

Hayden Christianson...Mmmmmm.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:12 am
He is pretty sexy....
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:17 am
GREAT review from Anthony Lane in New Yorker. Well, he hated it, but he wrote a kick-ass pan of it.

Choice bits:

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What can you say about a civilization where people zip from one solar system to the next as if they were changing their socks but where a woman fails to register for an ultrasound, and thus to realize that she is carrying twins until she is about to give birth? Mind you, how Padmé got pregnant is anybody's guess, although I'm prepared to wager that it involved Anakin nipping into a broom closet with a warm glass jar and a copy of Ewok Babes.


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The general opinion of "Revenge of the Sith" seems to be that it marks a distinct improvement on the last two episodes, "The Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the Clones". True, but only in the same way that dying from natural causes is preferable to crucifixion.


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Anakin keeps having problems with his dark side, in the way that you or I might suffer from tennis elbow, but Yoda, whose reptilian smugness we have been encouraged to mistake for wisdom, has the answer. "Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose," he says. Hold on, Kermit, run that past me one more time. If you ever got laid (admittedly a long shot, unless we can dig you up some undiscerning alien hottie with a name like Jar Jar Gabor), and spawned a brood of Yodettes, are you saying that you'd leave them behind at the first sniff of danger? Also, while we're here, what's with the screwy syntax? Deepest mind in the galaxy, apparently, and you still express yourself like a day-tripper with a dog-eared phrase book. "I hope right you are." Break me a ******* give.


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I keep thinking of the rueful Obi-Wan Kenobi, as he surveys the holographic evidence of Anakin's betrayal. "I can't watch anymore," he says. Wise words, Obi-Wan, and I shall carry them in my heart.


Whole thing:

http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/articles/050523crci_cinema
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:58 am
It is certainly impressive that it took Mr. Lane only six Star Wars movies to figure out that they don't make a whole lot of sense. And after just another six -- who knows? -- he might well progress to the point of figuring out that they aren't supposed to. Even for someone at the New Yorker, the Force sure is strong in Mr. Lane. Smile
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 10:00 am
Heh.

I loved the "tennis elbow" line, though...

(Almost saw it open captioned last weekend, decided to see "Clones" first -- have seen "Phantom Menace".)
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 11:07 am
I liked the tennis ellbow line too. The whole piece is a well-written, intelligent and enjoyable review, don't get me wrong Soz -- it just sparked my sarcasm when I saw a critic take a soap movie as seriously as if it were as deep as Ingmar Bergman, only to make the big discovery that it is not.
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Fedral
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 09:28 am
As the originator of this thread, I have waited until now to throw my opinion into the mix. I have done this for two reasons; one, to allow some enough people to see it before venting my spleen and two, to have a chance to see it a second time to be sure of what I saw the first time.

Let me preface my opinion with the following facts:
1) I saw the original Star Wars, 2 days after it opened in '77. I was blown away and I subsequently went back and paid to see it 22 more times.
I know you are saying: "Were you NUTS!"
But for those of you who were born into this wonderful electronic age, you have no clue how it was back then. We didn't have bit torrent downloads of a new movie available 2 days before it came into the theater. Heck, we didn't even have VCR's for the most part, so you got ONE shot to see a movie and when it went, it was gone until it came on network TV several years later.

2) I am an Empire junkie. From the moment I saw my first Stormtrooper come through the door of Leia's ship, I was hooked. The more of the Empire I saw, the more I started rooting for them to crush the ?'Rebel Scum' that infested such a well organized and run Empire. When the Empire overran the Rebel's Hoth base in the beginning of The Empire Strikes Back, I was one of the only ones cheering, "That's what you get for going toe to toe with the Empire you scumbag weaklings!"
So you can imagine a movie about the start of the Empire and the fall of the ?'Republic' was highest priority on my To See List.

3) I own all the movies out and although I never got into the whole ?'Collectables' craze, I do count myself as somewhat of a Star Wars ?'Geek'.

4) I hated the ?'Phantom Menace'. Hated, hated HATED it. I hated it with the white hot intensity of an exploding sun. I would have rather gone through a root canal done by a blind, sadistic dentist with Tourettes and Parkinsons than ever see that again. (I do own it, but it is still in its plastic wrapper.)

5) I think the only reason that I didn't hate ?'Attack of the Clones' near as much, was because I got to see the ?'birth' of my beloved Stormtroopers.

So having said that, I went into ?'Revenge of the Sith' with very low expectations, assuaged by the fact that I would get to see more of my Stormtroopers in action. I figured that if I got to see a movie where the Stormtroopers were everywhere, the Empire was born, the snotty, stuck up Jedi got their ?'just desserts' it would have to be at least a marginally acceptable movie.

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I was WRONG. This movie was painful from the first insipid frame to the last.

The dialogue is so emotionless and poorly written; I could swear that Lucas got a sociopath with dyslexia to write it.

If indeed George Lucas DID write it, we need to send a petition to the Screenwriters Guild, making sure that Lucas is never EVER allowed to pen another love scene for the rest of his life.

The man proved he has the ability write a good adventure yarn. He really needed to stick with what he was good at, writing spaceship scenes, blaster scenes, and action scenes. He has no idea how to write moving, tender dialogue for the young ?'Romeo and Juliet' who are central to this trilogy. The man should have found an out of work ?'chick flick' screenwriter to write the scenes for Padme/Anakin so they would have contained some emotion or at the very least, they wouldn't have been as painful to watch as this was. (My GOD, the man could have hired Jackie Collins for Gods sake, at least there would have been some heat between the two characters.)

Watching great actors like Christopher Lee, Samuel Jackson and Natalie Portman slog through dialogue this bad was as painful as watching my Goddaughters First Grade Christmas play, which her whole class wrote themselves. That is to say, I love the players, (Especially my Goddaughter's Very Happy ) but I found the story painfully rambling and incoherent.

That being said, the ONLY highlight of this most painful experience, was watching the Jedi get eliminated. I was in a packed movie house and I was one of only two people who cheered every time another Jedi was wasted. (That person and I locked gazes and gave each other a nod as we left the theater with that ?'The next 20 years are OURS' glance) Heck, watching that smug midget Yoda get his ass kicked was the pinnacle of my week.

You are probably asking yourself, why Fedral went to see it twice if he hated it so much the first time. The answer is, much like passing a horrific car wreck, you just have to look at it a second time to believe what you saw in shock the first.

As I said, this is just my opinion. Any resemblance between this post and a coherent movie review are clearly coincidental.
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