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Did Bush knowingly mislead Americans to make a case for war?

 
 
Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 03:32 am
During the war crimes trials at Nuremberg, psychologist Gustave Gilbert
visited Nazi Reichsmarshall Hermann Goering in his prison cell. "We got around to
the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not
think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war
and destruction," Gilbert wrote in his journal, Nuremberg Diary.

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would
some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can
get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? ... That is
understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a
democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a parliament or a communist dictatorship
... That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to
danger. It works the same way in any country."

Roger Stroope
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 03:50 am
Does this person...

http://files.intellisite.com/3/9/3/4/5.jpg

....have wooden balls?
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not2know
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 04:29 am
Sometimes it really is possible to fail to see the wood for the trees. We need to be clear that Tony Blair is claiming that the threat of Iraqi WMD justified a massive war against Iraq. We are to believe that after a major conflict in which 88,500 tons of bombs were dropped in 1991, after eight years of inspections, and after more than a decade of continuous bombing raids, and of crippling sanctions imposed under the most intensive and sophisticated surveillance operation in history, both Blair and Bush received intelligence suggesting that Iraq was a "serious and current threat".

As we now know, this alleged intelligence is said to have been related to WMD and links with al-Qaeda that did not exist. We are to believe, then, that a rush of terrifying information relating to non-existent perils - a rush so overwhelming that long-standing policy was abandoned - suddenly emerged to lead Bush and Blair to believe that nothing less than war was required to avert the danger.

This truly is remarkable. We might expect one or two erroneous reports warning of something that isn't there - but a weight of evidence sufficient to actually revolutionise policy? Beyond the possibility of some kind of mass hysteria, it seems almost unbelievable - this just isn't how the world works. Of course it could be argued that the threat was always "serious and current" - in which case why do nothing for ten years? And in which case why did Colin Powell say of Saddam on February 24, 2001:

"He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbours."- (Quoted, John Pilger, Daily Mirror, September 22, 2003)

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PoeticMisterE
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 06:31 pm
I am just shocked, I will speak later on this.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 06:33 pm
Mr Stillwater wrote:
Does this person...

http://files.intellisite.com/3/9/3/4/5.jpg

....have wooden balls?


Does Chatty Kathy have a vinyl vagina?
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Chrissee
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 08:36 pm
Mr Stillwater wrote:
Does this person...

http://files.intellisite.com/3/9/3/4/5.jpg

....have wooden balls?


Well..uh...no, Howdy Doody is not anatomically correct. He can't even get a woody.
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