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Fetal rights vs. animal rights

 
 
vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2019 04:21 pm
@Jewels Vern,
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"No one can truly define what entails a living entity,"

But that is exactly what both sides of this argument propose to do, and both sides want to use government power to enforce their will.
I quite agree.

As a note, even the law causes some confusion, because it is possible to 'murder' an unborn child, even in countries that allow abortion. They describe it as killing a child capable of being born. I believe the number of weeks into the pregnancy where they 'determine' it is capable of being born (around 22-24 weeks) is also likely to be the general cut of period for abortions (complications aside).
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TenderTinder
 
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Reply Thu 6 Jun, 2019 09:46 pm
@Jewels Vern,
Omg....you did not just say that? Read a biology book, the unborn are oxygenated in the womb, and they are definitely alive.
vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jun, 2019 06:04 pm
@TenderTinder,
A tree is also alive. An omoeba is also alive. So obviously 'Alive' in this context, has greater meaning than just the everyday definition of the word 'alive'. So yes, Jewels Vern can say such.

The real question, in terms of abortion is 'is it a living human being'? And once again, because it is such an emotive issue - this is only a question - not a stance one way or the other. Both sides have made arguments in relation to this question.
livinglava
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jun, 2019 06:56 am
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:

A tree is also alive. An omoeba is also alive. So obviously 'Alive' in this context, has greater meaning than just the everyday definition of the word 'alive'. So yes, Jewels Vern can say such.

The real question, in terms of abortion is 'is it a living human being'? And once again, because it is such an emotive issue - this is only a question - not a stance one way or the other. Both sides have made arguments in relation to this question.

The issue even goes beyond that: what is it about a 'living human being' that warrants protection of life? Animal rights also exist, but they are not as far-reaching. Is it because we assume animals experience less pain, suffering, and other sensations and experiences than humans, or just because we like to enslave and eat them so we make exceptions different from humans, whom we've decided shouldn't be enslaved and eaten or otherwise tortured or killed at the whim of other humans?

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