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London meeting 2005: part 2, Bad Waldliesborn

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 11:45 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
so sat on a stone with legs crossed cheek in hand (DOESNT SAY WHETHER LEFT OR RIGHT) and feeling glum.



He does exactly what pictured in my (new) avatar.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 11:49 am
Quote:
My seat I had upon a stone,
With one leg o'er its fellow thrown:
My elbow thereupon I rested,
And in my hand secure had nested
My chin, and of my cheeks, the one.
I pondered long what should be done,
In order in the world to live:
Still, could not any counsel give,
How one might, haply, three things gain,
Whose value constant would remain.
Honour and chattels of these are two -
Much harm to each other they ofttimes do.
The third I would wish for, is grace divine,
The first and the second by far to outshine.
Into one casket these three I'd lay,
Yet, sadly, alas, there is no way
That chattels and worldly honour too,
With grace divine - if I speak true -
Should one heart enter, there to bide.
The way thereto's to them denied:
The faithless lurk in hidden den,
Whilst hard abroad ride violent men.
With peace and justice wounded sore,
The three are lost without a guide,
Save we these two to strength restore.
Source
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 11:49 am
Well that's a SHE surely

With a big bent sword
or a roll of tissue paper

Sorry walther the symbolism is all a bit too deep for me
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 11:50 am
oh well you never said there was MORE

now going to read it
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 11:59 am
so honour and chattels are worthless without piety.

and I still dont understand the last 2 lines

"The three are lost without a guide,
Save we these two to strength restore."
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 12:11 pm
Well, as far as I remember, I had some troubles with this poem 40 years back at school and was gald that no-one asked me for a deeper interpretation.

So, Steve, I'm sorry, but my standard of knowledge about this didn't make any progress since that time.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 12:20 pm
Well thanks Walter for posting it in English

Its a good poem

And yet again I have to admire your ability to discuss and analyse in English, which I believe is not your first tongue?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 12:24 pm
Even my sometimes sharp tongue isn't the one I got first (Mrs. Walter might have different thoughts about that - btw: she's lurking here now since the last meetings!)

Nevertheless, thanks, but that's too much honour.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 12:25 pm
some responses please

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51783&highlight=
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 07:32 pm
I'm delighted to know Mrs. Walter is lurking here - tell her hello from the Albuquerque housesitter.
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 07:48 pm
SHE, Steve? Do tell us.....
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Piffka
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2005 09:44 pm
Wow... great stuff, Walter. Thanks a lot. Almost as good as being there.


And CJane -- it would be great to visit Germany with you. I'll bet you know how to get from one place to another. However.... I don't know if I'd want you to drive. Wink I used to be an "assigned-risk" insurance case, too. If anybody is going to drive fast, thank you, I'll do it.
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danon5
 
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Reply Wed 18 May, 2005 08:32 am
Hi Piffka,
The Railroads in Germany are fantastic ways to travel. Passes are available which lower the cost.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Wed 18 May, 2005 08:45 am
But only half as fun as driving on the Autobahns danon5 Wink

Piffka, we go every year to Germany, so just tell me
when, and we'll arrange something (we take 2 cars and
race each other). Laughing
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Piffka
 
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Reply Wed 18 May, 2005 09:35 am
Ooooh... you are bad, Jane!!! Twisted Evil

Okay, I admit, Rolling Eyes I've never gone much over 90 miles an hour and that was a long time ago. When I go 80 now Embarrassed , it is only because my car is a wicked thing and loves to speed. Really, I try to be scrupulously boring about following the speed limit.

Have you ever driven on the fast toll roads of Spain? Those are wonderfully broad and smooth and not very crowded. You can get up to a high rate of speed there, though not as high as the autobahn.

A trip to Germany with you pointing out the sights would be great fun. I am, didja know?, partly German... I had g-grandparents on one side named "Springer" and on the other side - "Frey." I really OUGHT to see Germany, don't you think?


Hey Danon! How are you? I love to ride on trains and I particularly love to use passes so that I don't have to worry about tickets each time I hop on. There is something so freeing about not having a car or a bunch of luggage. One of my favorite memories was taking the night train from Scotland to London. NOT that the sleeping berths were comfortable and the station stops always woke me up so I didn't sleep well, but zooming along close to the ground and headed towards that great city was wonderful... especially when the morning sun rose over the incredibly beautiful English countryside. Whew... there are some fine British clouds.

I'm <ahem> sure there are some good ones on the continent, too. Wink
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 18 May, 2005 09:44 am
"SHE, Steve? Do tell us....."

well the figure doesnt look male to me
what do you think?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 18 May, 2005 09:46 am
Piffka, On my recent holiday in Europe, I/we zipped around on the trains of Europe, and it was much more fun than an airplane ride. The Thaly and ICE (Inter City Express) trains can move; I think it goes over 150mph, because the close up scenery really is a blurr. First class is the way to go with free drinks and meals on some segments. I had lunch with wine on the ICE from Berlin to Koln, and I felt the cost was reasonable.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Wed 18 May, 2005 09:50 am
CI -- Sounds good -- who doesn't love first-clss treatment?? I'd like to hear about your trip to Malta when you feel like it.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 18 May, 2005 10:01 am
Piffka, I started writing last night, and should have my Malta segment ready to post by sometime today, and will post it in the Travel Forum.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 18 May, 2005 10:52 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
The Thaly and ICE (Inter City Express) trains can move; I think it goes over 150mph, because the close up scenery really is a blurr.


The normal IC, which c.i. took from Lippstadt, does on that route 110 mph.
The ICE, which took him to Berlin, has a top speed of 190 mph.
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