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Can Liberals and Cons Come together on This One?

 
 
Reply Mon 2 May, 2005 10:20 pm
To my friends,

It is my hope that we can get past our partisan bickerings, and come together, conservative and liberal, and support these people who merely seek the same rights we enjoy in our countries. Solidarity!



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It is a very clear understanding that the only kind of politics that truly makes sense is one that is guided by conscience. " (Vaclav Havel in 1999)





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On May 16, Iran Freedom Foundation spokesperson and founder, Jerome Corsi, PhD, will set off on a journey aimed at strengthening solidarity between Americans and Iranians.

Over the course of 2-3 weeks, Dr. Corsi will walk from the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to a replica placed in the heart of Washington, DC. We have tentatively secured the replica with Mr. Jack Templeton. Along the way, Dr. Corsi will stop at major cities and historical towns to talk to Americans at churches, town halls, schools and other civic centers about life in Iran. At the same time, Dr. Corsi will generate information to provide Iranians with some background about the real America, not the fiction trumped up by the Islamic Republic's propaganda machine. The Walk will graphically illuminate the places he visits and the people he meets.

Stops along the route include Lancaster and York, Pennsylvania and Baltimore, Maryland, where Dr. Corsi will be interviewed by local and national broadcasting networks.

As he engages with the American media, Dr. Corsi will discuss the current social, political and economic situation inside Iran and will urge Americans to reach out to this oppressed community.

Additionally, Dr. Corsi will let Iranians know that Americans support their efforts for non-violent, democratic change.
To bring this message to Iran, Dr. Corsi will be accompanied for the duration of the walk by few reporters and a satellite up-link truck. Each day a two-hour radio and television program will be broadcast during primetimes hours throughout Iran. These broadcasts will have various forms of topical commentary, cultural programming, news alerts and entertainment.

The IFF has already received letters from individuals concerned with the plight of Iranians, who want to walk with Dr. Corsi. It is our expectation that at various points along the route he will be joined by supporters.

Dr. Corsi will arrive in Philadelphia in the days leading up to the walk. During this time he will speak at local news networks and advertising will be available to the various media detailing the Walk's significance.

Upon arriving in DC, Dr. Corsi will resume work at the Iran Freedom Foundation, engaging with members of Congress and public policy and national security think tanks. Some members of Congress have already expressed interest in joining Dr. Corsi in the Walk's final push into Washington. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Iran Freedom Walk: Philadelphia, PA to Washington, DC (207 miles)

STAGE ONE: Philadelphia to Lancaster (74 miles)

The walk will follow roughly along Route 30, with stops in and around:
Day 1, Mo May 16th: Philadelphia (Liberty Bell, 19106) to Newtown Square: 14 miles
Day 2,Tu May 17th: Newtown Square (19073) to Exton: 15 miles
Day 3, We May 18th: Exton (19341) to Coatesville (via Downingtown, 19372): 13 miles
Day 4, Th May 19th: Coatesville (19320) to Gap: 13miles
Day 5, Fr May 20th: Gap (17527) to Ronks: 9 miles
Day 6, Sa May 21st: Ronks (17572) to Lancaster: 10 miles

STAGE TWO: Lancaster, PA to York, PA (28 miles)

Day 7, Su May 22nd: Lancaster (17601-03) to Columbia: 13 miles
Day 8, Mo May 23rd: Columbia (17512) to York: 15 miles

STAGE THREE: York, PA to Baltimore, MD (62 miles)

Route 83 and 45
Day 9, Tu May 24th: York (17315) to Potosi: 13 miles
Day 10, We May 25th: Potosi (zipcode?) to New Freedom: 8 miles
Day 11, Th May 26th: New Freedom, PA (17349) to Wiseburg, MD (Gun Powder Falls
State Park): 11 miles
Day 12, Fr May 27th: Wiseburg (zipcode?) to @#%#*eysville: 12 miles
Day 13, Sa May 28th: @#%#*eysville (21030) to Woodbrook: 9 miles
Day 14, Su May 29th: Woodbrook (zipcode?) to Baltimore: 9 miles

STAGE FOUR: Baltimore, MD to Washington, DC (43 miles)

Day 15, Mo May 30th: Baltimore (21201+) to Elkridge: 10 miles
Day 16, Tu May 31st: Elkridge (21075) to Laurel: 11 miles
Day 17, We June 1st: Laurel (20707-08, 20723-24) to College Park: 10 miles
Day 18, Th June 2nd: College Park (20740) to Washington, DC (Freedom Square,
20006): 12 miles
Day 19, Fr, June 3rd: Washinton, DC (Gathering in Freedom Plaza / Conference)
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Trupolitik
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2005 01:35 pm
Wow.....not a single response.

Is Iran not a serious issue?

Does noone care about their fight for Secular Democracy?


Confused
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2005 02:02 pm
If we can't have partisan bickering, then where's the fun in posting? Twisted Evil
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2005 03:10 pm
Trupolitik wrote:
Wow.....not a single response.

Is Iran not a serious issue?

Yes, Iran is a serious issue. Jerome Corsi, on the other hand, is not a serious individual.

As I have mentioned elsewhere, Corsi is one of the thick-browed paleo-cons behind Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth." He has also been a frequent contributor on freerepublic, where he has said the following about Islam and Arabs:
    CORSI: Let's see exactly why it isn't the case that Islam is a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion? Where's the proof to the contrary? (04/24/2004) CORSI: Islam is like a virus -- it affects the mind -- maybe even better as an analogy -- it is a cancer that destroys the body it infects... No doctor would hesitate to eliminate cancer cells from the body. (11/26/02) CORSI: Islam is a peaceful religion as long as the women are beaten, the boys buggered, and the infidels killed. (11/22/2002) CORSI: How's this as an analogy -- the Koran is simply the "software" for producing deviant cancer cell political behavior and violence in human beings. (02/15/2002) CORSI: Think the liberal press will ever let out that these 2 were lovers -- typical Islamic boy-buggering -- older man, younger man -- black Muslims? I doubt it. Not a pretty picture, but one certain to be hidden by PC media. (11/08/2002) CORSI: Isn't the Democratic Party the official SODOMIZER PROTECTION ASSOCIATION of AMERICA -- oh, I forgot, it was just an accident that Clintoon's first act in office was to promote "gays in the military." RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together. (11/18/2001)
Source: MediaMatters

Corsi, in other words, has a very slim grasp of reality, and no grasp at all on the truth. If he has now turned his attention to non-violent democratic change in Iran, then it is so much the worse for that worthy cause.
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Trupolitik
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2005 03:30 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
If he has now turned his attention to non-violent democratic change in Iran, then it is so much the worse for that worthy cause.



Good Post. But like you said...its is still a worthy cause.
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tommrr
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2005 01:08 am
DrewDad wrote:
If we can't have partisan bickering, then where's the fun in posting? Twisted Evil

Its A2K....there WILL BE partisan bickering...
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2005 08:13 am
Turns out there are two Iran Freedom Foundations

One was started by this idiot Corsi-- who seems to want to impose a necon American solution on Iran.

The other is started by Iranians and support the ideals of Iranian self-determination and liberty "free from external control".

I present to you the real Iran Freedom Foundation... Tupolitik, can you and other conservative get be hind this?

The real Iran Freedom Foundation wrote:

* Mode of worship is man's most private domain and no one has the right to intervene between the created and the creator.

* As there is not a single model of incorrupt, bloodless and successful religious government in the history of man, IFF strongly supports the principle of separation of government and religion. Believing that marginalizing the supreme power of the Creator into a limited partnership, or a government, would demean and debase the spiritual relations between man, nature, and God; thus, ultimately denigrating the moral and ethical standards impressed upon human beings by their religious beliefs.

* Iranians are fully capable of governing themselves and have the right to be free and in control of their own destiny. Iranians deserve the opportunity to employ and empower a government of their own choosing, which would be entrusted with their majority will in order to protect their lives, heritage, freedom, property, and independence, as well as Iran's territorial integrity.

* Iranians can achieve these lofty goals through a peaceful and democratic means and instruments of democracy only, such as: free elections, constitutional assembly, constitutional convention, and a constitution enshrined with secular principles and a Bill of Rights.

* It is only through a freely elected government that the Iranian people can have a government responsive to their aspirations and to the changing times, capable of living in peace with Iran's neighboring countries and other nations of the world; drawing its ethical and moral principles from true Islam while being separate from the religion. Such a government must accept honors, and promotes the United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

* As the overwhelming majority of Iranians still reside in Iran, no conscionable person of democratic persuasion from overseas would even entertain the fantasy of ruling Iranians in the future. IFF has not, and will not support or endorse any individual or organization outside the country without the direct majority support of Iranians.


Frankly I can't see the current batch of American Conservatives coming together on any one of these points.
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Trupolitik
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 11:49 am
ebrown_p wrote:
Turns out there are two Iran Freedom Foundations

One was started by this idiot Corsi-- who seems to want to impose a necon American solution on Iran.

The other is started by Iranians and support the ideals of Iranian self-determination and liberty "free from external control".

I present to you the real Iran Freedom Foundation... Tupolitik, can you and other conservative get be hind this?

The real Iran Freedom Foundation wrote:

* Mode of worship is man's most private domain and no one has the right to intervene between the created and the creator.

* As there is not a single model of incorrupt, bloodless and successful religious government in the history of man, IFF strongly supports the principle of separation of government and religion. Believing that marginalizing the supreme power of the Creator into a limited partnership, or a government, would demean and debase the spiritual relations between man, nature, and God; thus, ultimately denigrating the moral and ethical standards impressed upon human beings by their religious beliefs.

* Iranians are fully capable of governing themselves and have the right to be free and in control of their own destiny. Iranians deserve the opportunity to employ and empower a government of their own choosing, which would be entrusted with their majority will in order to protect their lives, heritage, freedom, property, and independence, as well as Iran's territorial integrity.

* Iranians can achieve these lofty goals through a peaceful and democratic means and instruments of democracy only, such as: free elections, constitutional assembly, constitutional convention, and a constitution enshrined with secular principles and a Bill of Rights.

* It is only through a freely elected government that the Iranian people can have a government responsive to their aspirations and to the changing times, capable of living in peace with Iran's neighboring countries and other nations of the world; drawing its ethical and moral principles from true Islam while being separate from the religion. Such a government must accept honors, and promotes the United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

* As the overwhelming majority of Iranians still reside in Iran, no conscionable person of democratic persuasion from overseas would even entertain the fantasy of ruling Iranians in the future. IFF has not, and will not support or endorse any individual or organization outside the country without the direct majority support of Iranians.


Frankly I can't see the current batch of American Conservatives coming together on any one of these points.



If they mean a TRUE democracy where the rights of Women and Religious minorities are protected, and uphold the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, I am ALL for that.

Cool
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 11:54 am
A TRUE democracy? THe US isn't even a TRUE democracy.

Cycloptichorn
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 11:56 am
Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Isn't that a commie UN let's take away the sovereignty of the US thing?
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Trupolitik
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 11:57 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
A TRUE democracy? THe US isn't even a TRUE democracy.

Cycloptichorn


Objection: Argumentative.
:wink:
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Trupolitik
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2005 11:59 am
ebrown_p wrote:
Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Isn't that a commie UN let's take away the sovereignty of the US thing?


LOL!!
Its actually a very good mirror to the US Bill of Rights.
Cool
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