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And Now for the Preemptive NUCLEAR Strike

 
 
Reply Mon 2 May, 2005 07:34 am
Since our intellegence gathering has been so unbelieveably accurate of late, I guess some think it is now time to plan for pre-emptive nuclear strikes... Just in case.

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U.S. may allow nuke strikes over WMD
Proposal would reverse 10-year policy

WASHINGTON (Kyodo) The U.S. military is considering allowing regional combatant commanders to request presidential approval for pre-emptive nuclear strikes against possible attacks with weapons of mass destruction on the United States or its allies, according to a draft nuclear operations paper.

The March 15 paper, drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is titled "Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations," providing "guidelines for the joint employment of forces in nuclear operations . . . for the employment of U.S. nuclear forces, command and control relationships, and weapons effect considerations."

"There are numerous nonstate organizations (terrorist, criminal) and about 30 nations with WMD programs, including many regional states," the paper says in recommending that commanders in the Pacific and other theaters be given an option of pre-emptive strikes against "rogue" states and terrorists and "request presidential approval for use of nuclear weapons" under set conditions.

The paper identifies nuclear, biological and chemical weapons as requiring pre-emptive strikes to prevent their use.

Allowing pre-emptive nuclear strikes against possible biological and chemical attacks would effectively contradict a "negative security assurance" policy declared 10 years ago by the Clinton administration during an international conference to review the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

Creating a treaty committing nuclear powers not to use nuclear weapons against countries without nuclear weapons remains one of the most contentious issues for the 35-year-old NPT regime.

A Pentagon official said the paper "is still a draft which has to be finalized" but indicated that it is aimed at guiding "cross-spectrum" combatant commanders how to jointly carry out operations based on the Nuclear Posture Review report adopted three years ago by the Bush administration.

Citing North Korea, Iran and some other countries as threats, the report sets out contingencies for which U.S. nuclear strikes must be prepared.

It calls for developing earth-penetrating nuclear bombs to destroy hidden underground military facilities, including those for storing WMD and ballistic missiles.

"The nature (of the paper) is to explain not details but cross spectrum for how to conduct operations," the official said, noting that it "means for all services -- army, navy, air force and marine."

In 1991 after the end of the Cold War, the United States removed its ground-based nuclear weapons in Asia and Europe as well as strategic nuclear warheads on warships and submarines.

But the paper says the U.S. has the capability of reviving sea-based nuclear arms.

The Japan Times: May 2, 2005

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watchmakers guidedog
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2005 07:50 am
Re: And Now for the Preemptive NUCLEAR Strike
squinney wrote:
Since our intellegence gathering has been so unbelieveably accurate of late, I guess some think it is now time to plan for pre-emptive nuclear strikes... Just in case.


I would infiltrate a special ops team to sabotage the nuclear facilities personally... If I were feeling particularly cruel spirited I would have the nuclear facilities, "accidentally" explode causing destruction in Korea and negative PR.

But pushing a button is sooo much easier.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2005 12:40 pm
Interesting:

'City XX had a group of terrorists in it who were about to release a deadly virus, so we tactically nuked the place to stop it.'

'You want proof? Well, it all just got nuked. You'll just have to trust us.'

Not good
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candidone1
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2005 12:46 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Interesting:

'City XX had a group of terrorists in it who were about to release a deadly virus, so we tactically nuked the place to stop it.'

'You want proof? Well, it all just got nuked. You'll just have to trust us.'

Not good


It's kinda like going to war based on "conclusive" CIA evidence supporting WMD in Iraq, and once the fail to show up, claim they've been hidden, stolen or moved.
Trust us, they were there.

BTW...will they still call civilian deaths in a nuclear preempt "collateral damage", or will they come up with some something more warm and fuzzy. 'Cause as far as I know, nukes aren't all that "smart".
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2005 09:49 am
Ah, now I get it. This was the prelude to the truth.

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Pentagon Says Iraq Effort Limits Ability to Fight Other Conflicts
By THOM SHANKER

Published: May 3, 2005


ASHINGTON, May 2 - The concentration of American troops and weapons in Iraq and Afghanistan limits the Pentagon's ability to deal with other potential armed conflicts, the military's highest ranking officer reported to Congress on Monday.

The officer, Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, informed Congress in a classified report that major combat operations elsewhere in the world, should they be necessary, would probably be more protracted and produce higher American and foreign civilian casualties because of the commitment of Pentagon resources in Iraq and Afghanistan...

Pentagon Says Iraq Effort Limits Ability to Fight Other Conflicts
By THOM SHANKER

Published: May 3, 2005


ASHINGTON, May 2 - The concentration of American troops and weapons in Iraq and Afghanistan limits the Pentagon's ability to deal with other potential armed conflicts, the military's highest ranking officer reported to Congress on Monday.

The officer, Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, informed Congress in a classified report that major combat operations elsewhere in the world, should they be necessary, would probably be more protracted and produce higher American and foreign civilian casualties because of the commitment of Pentagon resources in Iraq and Afghanistan...

.......

A half dozen Pentagon civilian and military officials were discussing the outlines of the report on Monday as it was being officially delivered to Congress; one government official provided a copy to The New York Times. The officials who discussed the assessment demanded anonymity because it is a classified document.

General Myers cited reduced stockpiles of precision weapons, which were depleted during the invasion of Iraq, and the stress on reserve units, which fulfill the bulk of combat support duties in Iraq, as among the factors that would limit the Pentagon's ability to prevail as quickly as war planners once predicted in other potential conflicts.

The report this year acknowledges that the nation's armed forces are operating under a higher level of risk than cited in the report last year, said Pentagon and military officials who have read both documents.

Despite the limitations, General Myers was unwavering in his assessment that American forces would win any major combat operation. The armed forces, he concluded, are "fully capable" of meeting all Washington's military objectives.

The general's report appears to provide a slightly different assessment than President Bush offered at a news conference last week when he said the number of American troops in Iraq would not limit Washington military options elsewhere.

Mr. Bush said he had asked General Myers, "Do you feel that we've limited our capacity to deal with other problems because of our troop levels in Iraq?"

"And the answer is no, he didn't feel a bit limited," Mr. Bush said. "It feels like we got plenty of capacity."

Late Monday, a Pentagon official dismissed any serious contradiction between the president and the general. "The two comments are consistent in that no one in the military feels at all limited in the ability to respond to any contingency," the official said. "What the risk assessment discusses is the nature of the response."





So, we're needing to make the nuclear option available 'cause we're out of troops and other ammo. We can still handle another conflict, no problem. We'll just have to Nuke 'em.

This bunch is Brilliant! Rolling Eyes

Ooops! Here's the source: The New York Times
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2005 05:03 pm
George Bush came with the sun
There was a job to be done
And they had sent for the hand and the gun
Of hair-trigger man
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2005 07:03 am
It would appear that Dr Strangelove is now sitting in the oval office. Could it be that his solution to the solvancy of Social Security is to assure there is no one left to need it.
North Korea and Iran are not the problem. The US with macho man in charge is.
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