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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 12:29 pm
A federal appeals court yesterday rejected a request for a new hearing by two journalists who could face jail time as early as next week for refusing to disclose their confidential sources to a grand jury investigating the leak of a CIA operative's name.

The decision by the full U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington accelerates the pace of the conflict between a special prosecutor and the two reporters, Matthew Cooper of Time magazine and Judith Miller of the New York Times. It also serves as a firm rebuke to major news organizations and First Amendment groups who had weighed in on the case, legal experts said.

Both news organizations indicated yesterday that they would immediately seek a stay of the appellate court's order and would ask for a review of the case by the U.S. Supreme Court. Without such a stay, attorneys said, the case would be sent back next Tuesday to the lower court judge, Thomas F. Hogan, who first ordered the reporters jailed for as long as 18 months last October.

Toby Usnik, a New York Times spokesman, said in a statement: "We are disappointed with the court's decision and we will seek a stay in order to have sufficient time to seek U.S. Supreme Court review."

A similar statement by Time Inc. said the newsweekly was "disappointed but not surprised by the decision."

Yesterday's ruling marks the latest chapter in the ongoing Justice Department probe by Chicago U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald, who was appointed special prosecutor to determine whether a government official knowingly leaked the name of a CIA operative, Valerie Plame, to columnist Robert D. Novak in the summer of 2003. Fitzgerald, who has outraged the media and free press advocates by aggressively seeking testimony from reporters, indicated in court filings last month that he had completed his probe except for the testimony from Cooper and Miller.

A three-judge panel of the D.C. Circuit court ruled in February that Cooper and Miller should be jailed for contempt if they continued to refuse to name their sources, upholding Hogan's October decision.

The order issued by the full appeals court yesterday said that its members had voted against reconsidering the case, as requested by Cooper and Miller. Two of the court's nine judges did not take part in the voting.

In a concurring statement, Judge David S. Tatel wrote that the case did not raise questions of "exceptional importance" as required for a new hearing before a full appeals court. He also wrote that a 1972 Supreme Court case, Branzburg v. Hayes, clearly required reporters to testify in these circumstances and could only be limited by the higher court.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 01:24 pm
dys, i've never seen anything where novak, who actually published the info, has been questioned or answered who gave him the tip off.

how 'bout you ?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 01:27 pm
I was wondering the exact same thing.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 01:27 pm
I am guessing from what I have read that Novak is NOT off the hook.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 01:34 pm
sure doesn't seem to be anywhere near the same spotlight as these other guys though, does he ?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 01:37 pm
Keep in mind that if Novak were at any point to be prosecuted, he could not be required to give evidence against himself. Not by any stretch of the imagination am i saying that this is case; however, this may well be the reason he has not been dragged into the spotlight.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 02:32 pm
Setanta wrote:
Keep in mind that if Novak were at any point to be prosecuted, he could not be required to give evidence against himself. Not by any stretch of the imagination am i saying that this is case; however, this may well be the reason he has not been dragged into the spotlight.


the 5th ? probably. but it just bugs that the other two are getting smacked around, without having made the info on plame public, while republican apparatchik novak continues to mushily spew his right wing non-sequiters seemingly untouched. if it had been carville or begala, the whitehouse would have been screaming from the rooftops.

republican, democrat or muskrat, the guy outted an active undercover officer of a united states intelligence service.

he's a rat. Evil or Very Mad
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 02:33 pm
an insult to rodents everywhere
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 02:50 pm
Setanta wrote:
an insult to rodents everywhere


note to self: send apology note to willard.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 03:56 pm
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
Setanta wrote:
Keep in mind that if Novak were at any point to be prosecuted, he could not be required to give evidence against himself. Not by any stretch of the imagination am i saying that this is case; however, this may well be the reason he has not been dragged into the spotlight.


the 5th ? probably. but it just bugs that the other two are getting smacked around, without having made the info on plame public, while republican apparatchik novak continues to mushily spew his right wing non-sequiters seemingly untouched. if it had been carville or begala, the whitehouse would have been screaming from the rooftops.

republican, democrat or muskrat, the guy outted an active undercover officer of a united states intelligence service.

he's a rat. Evil or Very Mad


I don't beleive she was an active undercover agent, wasn't she an analyst?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 04:30 pm
Flashback.

The longer this drags out, the less likely it seems to me there will be much in it of benefit to The Dems.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 04:52 pm
what i heard was that she had been working in the appearance of a "business woman abroad" performing covert tasks.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 04:55 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Flashback.

The longer this drags out, the less likely it seems to me there will be much in it of benefit to The Dems.


if we as citizens allow this kind of thing to go on, how long will it be before some political operative blabs out something that can really damage our country, simply to get hunk on a political rival ?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 05:23 pm
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
Flashback.

The longer this drags out, the less likely it seems to me there will be much in it of benefit to The Dems.


if we as citizens allow this kind of thing to go on, how long will it be before some political operative blabs out something that can really damage our country, simply to get hunk on a political rival ?


I don't know about that, but I haven't I heard that people want more info from or about the govt? Everytime someone talks about something being secert so liberial loon comes out screaming about how the govt is too secret.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 05:34 pm
BBB
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squinney
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 06:01 pm
I don't get the Kovac not increminating himself argument. He didn't do anything wrong. He only published what he was told, and couldn't be expected to know she was undercover / covert.

However, the person that told HIM would be in trouble. They knew.

Kovac wouldn't not be being pursued due to the 5th. So, why aren't they questioning him and throwing him in jail?
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 06:46 pm
Baldimo wrote:
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
Flashback.

The longer this drags out, the less likely it seems to me there will be much in it of benefit to The Dems.


if we as citizens allow this kind of thing to go on, how long will it be before some political operative blabs out something that can really damage our country, simply to get hunk on a political rival ?


I don't know about that, but I haven't I heard that people want more info from or about the govt? Everytime someone talks about something being secert so liberial loon comes out screaming about how the govt is too secret.


i believe in transparency in government as far as our internal affairs go. and to a certain extent, we really need to know the reality of what's happening in a war. however, at some point you do get into the deep water, where loose lips sink ships.
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