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Somethin Else For Ya Liberal's Too Chew On...

 
 
panzade
 
Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 09:18 am
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 10:59 am
Back later to read and comment.
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panzade
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 11:04 am
TY Dear...
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 11:15 am
Bookmark.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 12:33 am
I'm not so sure it's backlash, more like the innate conservatism of what used to be called "the working class". If so then it's not a new idea.

In Victorian England Benjamin Disraeli knew all about such conservatism.
Google 'Angels in marble" and "Disraeli".

The cleverness of Rove and his ilk has been in portraying the Democrats and other "liberals" as elites while disguising the fact that the real elites are Republicans. Dirty politics but smart. And the workers bought it because Rove played to their prejudices. Rove might be more ruthless than Disraeli but he understands the tactic very well.
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watchmakers guidedog
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 03:07 am
You assosciate the "liberal" philosophical thesis with the actions of the Democrat political party.

This is illogical.

Whatever the weaknesses of liberal theses they can only be determined by examining the philosophy. A two party representative republic does not allow the principles to be studied in isolation.

This thread would be more accurately a condemnation, perhaps deservedly, of the Democrat party. The Democrats are no more the embodiment of progressive liberalism than the Republicans are the embodiment of right-wing conservativism.
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 09:11 am
watchmakers guidedog wrote:
You assosciate the "liberal" philosophical thesis with the actions of the Democrat political party.


There's a paucity of "liberals" in the G.O.P. so for the purposes of this thread let's assume that the Democratic party is home to the "liberal" ilk.

This thread is not a condemnation of anything.But if you think the two political parties haven't been labeled progressive liberal and right-wing conservative, you're giving "joe sixpack" way too much credit.
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watchmakers guidedog
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 10:40 pm
panzade wrote:
There's a paucity of "liberals" in the G.O.P. so for the purposes of this thread let's assume that the Democratic party is home to the "liberal" ilk.


That the democrats are more liberal than the republicans is perhaps, slightly, true. Especially if one judges them based on their comments and supporters rather than their actions.

It would be my contention that actual liberal views go relatively unrepresented within the american political system. Conservative views are represented better than liberal views, but still not entirely represented.

The political system creates politicians who act for political reasons. Relations to actual events or ideologies are only incidental and kept to a stricty minimum.

I think that believing ideology plays much of a role in politics is a naive world-view. However since you appear to feel differently about the issue than I you are welcome to make whatever assumptions you wish to make for the sake of the dialogue. However, don't expect me to share them.
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