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Somethin Else For Ya Liberal's Too Chew On...

 
 
panzade
 
Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 09:18 am
The class struggle and the Liberal myopia are neatly bundled together in this rather lengthy piece. Is it fair? And more importantly does it lay out a blueprint for the Democratic party's descending fortunes?

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17982


What's the Matter with Liberals?
By Thomas Frank


For more than thirty-five years, American politics has followed a populist pattern as predictable as a Punch and Judy show and as conducive to enlightened statesmanship as the cycles of a noisy washing machine. The antagonists of this familiar melodrama are instantly recognizable: the average American, humble, long-suffering, working hard, and paying his taxes; and the liberal elite, the know-it-alls of Manhattan and Malibu, sipping their lattes as they lord it over the peasantry with their fancy college degrees and their friends in the judiciary.

Conservatives generally regard class as an unacceptable topic when the subject is economics?-trade, deregulation, shifting the tax burden, expressing worshipful awe for the microchip, etc. But define politics as culture, and class instantly becomes for them the very blood and bone of public discourse. Indeed, from George Wallace to George W. Bush, a class-based backlash against the perceived arrogance of liberalism has been one of their most powerful weapons. Workerist in its rhetoric but royalist in its economic effects, this backlash is in no way embarrassed by its contradictions. It understands itself as an uprising of the little people even when its leaders, in control of all three branches of government, cut taxes on stock dividends and turn the screws on the bankrupt. It mobilizes angry voters by the millions, despite the patent unwinnability of many of its crusades. And from the busing riots of the Seventies to the culture wars of our own time, the backlash has been ignored, downplayed, or misunderstood by liberals.

The 2004 presidential campaign provides a near-perfect demonstration of the persistent power of backlash?-as well as another disheartening example of liberalism's continuing inability to confront it in an effective manner. So perfect, in fact, that it deserves to be studied by political enthusiasts for decades to come, in the manner that West Point cadets study remarkable infantry exploits and MBAs study branding campaigns that conjured up billions out of nothing but a catchy jingle.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 10:59 am
Back later to read and comment.
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panzade
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 11:04 am
TY Dear...
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2005 11:15 am
Bookmark.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 12:33 am
I'm not so sure it's backlash, more like the innate conservatism of what used to be called "the working class". If so then it's not a new idea.

In Victorian England Benjamin Disraeli knew all about such conservatism.
Google 'Angels in marble" and "Disraeli".

The cleverness of Rove and his ilk has been in portraying the Democrats and other "liberals" as elites while disguising the fact that the real elites are Republicans. Dirty politics but smart. And the workers bought it because Rove played to their prejudices. Rove might be more ruthless than Disraeli but he understands the tactic very well.
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watchmakers guidedog
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 03:07 am
You assosciate the "liberal" philosophical thesis with the actions of the Democrat political party.

This is illogical.

Whatever the weaknesses of liberal theses they can only be determined by examining the philosophy. A two party representative republic does not allow the principles to be studied in isolation.

This thread would be more accurately a condemnation, perhaps deservedly, of the Democrat party. The Democrats are no more the embodiment of progressive liberalism than the Republicans are the embodiment of right-wing conservativism.
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 09:11 am
watchmakers guidedog wrote:
You assosciate the "liberal" philosophical thesis with the actions of the Democrat political party.


There's a paucity of "liberals" in the G.O.P. so for the purposes of this thread let's assume that the Democratic party is home to the "liberal" ilk.

This thread is not a condemnation of anything.But if you think the two political parties haven't been labeled progressive liberal and right-wing conservative, you're giving "joe sixpack" way too much credit.
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watchmakers guidedog
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 10:40 pm
panzade wrote:
There's a paucity of "liberals" in the G.O.P. so for the purposes of this thread let's assume that the Democratic party is home to the "liberal" ilk.


That the democrats are more liberal than the republicans is perhaps, slightly, true. Especially if one judges them based on their comments and supporters rather than their actions.

It would be my contention that actual liberal views go relatively unrepresented within the american political system. Conservative views are represented better than liberal views, but still not entirely represented.

The political system creates politicians who act for political reasons. Relations to actual events or ideologies are only incidental and kept to a stricty minimum.

I think that believing ideology plays much of a role in politics is a naive world-view. However since you appear to feel differently about the issue than I you are welcome to make whatever assumptions you wish to make for the sake of the dialogue. However, don't expect me to share them.
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