Oh no! Ratzinger is extremely conservative and traditional.
The hopes for a catholic reform or at least leniency in
its doctrine have vanished.
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Intrepid
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 11:01 am
sozobe wrote:
Song remains the same, indeed.
Pope Benedict XVI. Huh.
John Paul was pope since I was 8, weird to think of a pope with a different name. John Paul = pope.
and Pope John Paul I was only Pope for a month before he died. John Paul II was going to pick Stansilas (or something like that) before he decided on John Paul II
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Intrepid
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 11:02 am
CalamityJane wrote:
Oh no! Ratzinger is extremely conservative and traditional.
The hopes for a catholic reform or at least leniency in
its doctrine have vanished.
Perhaps only delayed.... he is 78 years old
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sozobe
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 11:04 am
fbaezer, can you give me a Cliff's notes version of Benedict XV?
I know that I have an involuntary shudder/ uh-oh not him reaction, but I don't remember why and there's a lot to read on the site you linked to.
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fbaezer
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 11:11 am
The name again: John XXIV would have been great. Paul VII would have been OK. Pious XIII would have been worse than Benedict XVI. (John Paul III was barely thinkable).
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old europe
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 11:28 am
Didn't remember Pope Benedikt XV. Had to look it up. Don't like the name too much, but then I don't like Ratzinger too much.
On August 1, 1917, Pope Benedict XV, issued this peace proposal. It was generally ignored by the warring governments....
interesting. so much to learn.
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Walter Hinteler
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 11:39 am
Quite interesting that - according to today's Italian media - American and German cardinals had lined up against a possible papacy of Joseph Ratzinger.
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old europe
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 11:41 am
Wouldn't doubt that, Walter...
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ossobuco
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 11:44 am
I know most of the cardinals are "new", all but two - I gather - being appointed by John Paul II. The general conservative mode of the appointees combined with Ratzinger's long time power position in the church seemed to make this choice of a new pope a foregone conclusion.
Fbaezer gave an excellent breakdown of the stances of various cardinals on another thread.
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sozobe
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 11:45 am
Oh, Benedict XV doesn't sound nearly as bad as I expected.
Anything important left out of the Wikipedia entry?
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Thomas
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 11:47 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Quite interesting that - according to today's Italian media - American and German cardinals had lined up against a possible papacy of Joseph Ratzinger.
They should have known better. Nobody can beat the archbishop of Munich!
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fbaezer
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Tue 19 Apr, 2005 12:04 pm
Thomas wrote:
Nobody can beat the archbishop of Munich!
This is getting to be like football (soccer, fussball).
No matter how bad they play, the Germans always win.
