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Has the republican party been turned into the party of God?

 
 
au1929
 
Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2005 09:49 am
Has the republican party been turned into the party of God?

OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR

In the Name of Politics

By JOHN C. DANFORTH

Published: March 30, 2005

St. Louis — BY a series of recent initiatives, Republicans have transformed our party into the political arm of conservative Christians. The elements of this transformation have included advocacy of a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, opposition to stem cell research involving both frozen embryos and human cells in petri dishes, and the extraordinary effort to keep Terri Schiavo hooked up to a feeding tube.

Standing alone, each of these initiatives has its advocates, within the Republican Party and beyond. But the distinct elements do not stand alone. Rather they are parts of a larger package, an agenda of positions common to conservative Christians and the dominant wing of the Republican Party.

Christian activists, eager to take credit for recent electoral successes, would not be likely to concede that Republican adoption of their political agenda is merely the natural convergence of conservative religious and political values. Correctly, they would see a causal relationship between the activism of the churches and the responsiveness of Republican politicians. In turn, pragmatic Republicans would agree that motivating Christian conservatives has contributed to their successes.

High-profile Republican efforts to prolong the life of Ms. Schiavo, including departures from Republican principles like approving Congressional involvement in private decisions and empowering a federal court to overrule a state court, can rightfully be interpreted as yielding to the pressure of religious power blocs.

In my state, Missouri, Republicans in the General Assembly have advanced legislation to criminalize even stem cell research in which the cells are artificially produced in petri dishes and will never be transplanted into the human uterus. They argue that such cells are human life that must be protected, by threat of criminal prosecution, from promising research on diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and juvenile diabetes.

It is not evident to many of us that cells in a petri dish are equivalent to identifiable people suffering from terrible diseases. I am and have always been pro-life. But the only explanation for legislators comparing cells in a petri dish to babies in the womb is the extension of religious doctrine into statutory law.

I do not fault religious people for political action. Since Moses confronted the pharaoh, faithful people have heard God's call to political involvement. Nor has political action been unique to conservative Christians. Religious liberals have been politically active in support of gay rights and against nuclear weapons and the death penalty. In America, everyone has the right to try to influence political issues, regardless of his religious motivations.

The problem is not with people or churches that are politically active. It is with a party that has gone so far in adopting a sectarian agenda that it has become the political extension of a religious movement.

When government becomes the means of carrying out a religious program, it raises obvious questions under the First Amendment. But even in the absence of constitutional issues, a political party should resist identification with a religious movement. While religions are free to advocate for their own sectarian causes, the work of government and those who engage in it is to hold together as one people a very diverse country. At its best, religion can be a uniting influence, but in practice, nothing is more divisive. For politicians to advance the cause of one religious group is often to oppose the cause of another.

Take stem cell research. Criminalizing the work of scientists doing such research would give strong support to one religious doctrine, and it would punish people who believe it is their religious duty to use science to heal the sick.

During the 18 years I served in the Senate, Republicans often disagreed with each other. But there was much that held us together. We believed in limited government, in keeping light the burden of taxation and regulation. We encouraged the private sector, so that a free economy might thrive. We believed that judges should interpret the law, not legislate. We were internationalists who supported an engaged foreign policy, a strong national defense and free trade. These were principles shared by virtually all Republicans.

But in recent times, we Republicans have allowed this shared agenda to become secondary to the agenda of Christian conservatives. As a senator, I worried every day about the size of the federal deficit. I did not spend a single minute worrying about the effect of gays on the institution of marriage. Today it seems to be the other way around.

The historic principles of the Republican Party offer America its best hope for a prosperous and secure future. Our current fixation on a religious agenda has turned us in the wrong direction. It is time for Republicans to rediscover our roots.



John C. Danforth, a former United States senator from Missouri, resigned in January as United States ambassador to the United Nations. He is an Episcopal minister.
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2005 05:26 pm
Interesting that the article came from a republican Episcopal minister. (?)

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As a senator, I worried every day about the size of the federal deficit. I did not spend a single minute worrying about the effect of gays on the institution of marriage. Today it seems to be the other way around.


Wish there was a way to condense those statements on a bumper sticker.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 12:25 am
in answer to your question on the title of this thread. That's what they claim but the answer is a resounding NO!!!!
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Instigate
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 12:58 am
Has the Democrat Party become the Pinko-Commie party?

There are kooks on both sides of the aisle. Both parties hold up the oppositions fringe elements as representaives of the whole. You, of course, are a shining example of this tactic.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 07:12 am
Instigate
The religious right is hardly a fringe element of the republican party. Without it the party would be a fringe element in government.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 07:35 am
I am a Republican and I am not Christian. Go figure.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 07:42 am
Mcg
Meaning what?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 07:47 am
Meaning that many of what Mr. Danforth is putting forward as "Christian beliefs" aren't.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 08:59 am
Instigate wrote:
Has the Democrat Party become the Pinko-Commie party?

There are kooks on both sides of the aisle. Both parties hold up the oppositions fringe elements as representaives of the whole. You, of course, are a shining example of this tactic.


That's a pretty easy one to address. Bush and his major players in his organization constantly and publicly link themselves with God, their religious faith, and being guided and applying the principles of their Christian faith. One of Bushs' first big things for instance was Faith based charities. He has stated that he feels God called him to his current postition.

Now that's a fact.

Conversely, I have never read, seen, or heard of any Democrat, major league or minor, make the same claims about their Commie/Pinko beliefs. Have You?

I think you're a little hyper sensitive there my friend. Or maybe just an instigator. No cigar on this one.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 09:42 am
'Hating the "Religious Right"

Should people of faith also be allowed a say in the law-making process?
by Hugh Hewitt
03/31/2005 12:00:00 AM

THE TERRI SCHIAVO TRAGEDY has been seized on by long-time critics of the "religious right" to launch attack after attack on the legitimacy of political action on the basis of religious belief. This attack has ignored the inconvenient participation in the debate--on the side of resuming water and nutrition for Terri Schiavo--of the spectacularly not-the-religious-rightness of Tom Harkin, Nat Hentoff, Jesse Jackson, and a coalition of disability advocacy groups.

The attack has also been hysterical. After Congress acted--ineffectively, it turned out--Maureen Dowd proclaimed that "theocracy" had arrived in the land. Paul Krugman warned that assassination of liberals by extremists was not far off. And the Internet frenzy on the left was even more extreme.

Into the fray came former Missouri Republican Senator John Danforth, an ordained priest, and much admired man of integrity. In yesterday's New York Times, Senator Danforth blasted the control that he asserts is now held over the Republican party by religious conservatives. Danforth specifically criticized the congressional action on behalf of Schiavo, a proposed Missouri bill that would halt stem cell research, and concerns over gay marriage.

All of these charges--from the most incoherent to the most measured--arrive without definition as to what "the religious right" is, and without argument as to why the agenda of this ill-defined group is less legitimate than the pro-gay marriage, pro-cloning, pro-partial-birth abortion, pro-euthanasia agenda of other political actors. Danforth's position is, apparently, that the agenda of the left on these matters ought not to be resisted, which means that it will be enacted. "For politicians to advance the cause of one religious group," Danforth intones, "is often to oppose the cause of another." That is inescapably true. To come to the defense of the unborn, as Senator Danforth correctly notes he always did during his legislative career, is to oppose abortion on demand. To come to the aid of the Christians in Sudan is to oppose the wishes of the Muslims who sought their destruction. Every political conflict is a choice between competing moral codes.

So Danforth's essay is really a poorly-camouflaged complaint that his positions on stem-cell research, gay marriage, and Terri Schiavo are not the positions of the Republican party. It is fair for him to try and persuade people to endorse his positions but it is wrong and demagogic to attempt to question the right of people of faith to participate in politics. That is certainly what Dowd, Krugman, and others want to accomplish, and although Danforth asserts that "I do not fault religious people for political action," the intention of his essay is to encourage the Republican party to reject the efforts of religious people to influence the party's agenda.

There is little chance that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, Bill Frist or Dennis Hastert are going to heed Danforth's advice. But a strain of thought is developing that the political objectives of people of faith have second-class status when compared to those of, say, religiously secular elites. Of course, not only would such a position have surprised all of the Founding Fathers, it would have shocked Lincoln and Reagan, too.

The speed with which issues that excite the passions of people of faith have arrived at the center of American politics is not surprising given the forced march that the courts have put those issues on. It was not the "religious right" that pushed gay marriage to the center of the public debate; it was courts in Hawaii, Vermont, and Massachusetts. It wasn't the "religious right" that ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding tube removed; it was a Florida Supreme Court that struck down a law passed by the Florida legislature and signed by Governor Jeb Bush which would have allowed Terri Schiavo to live. And it isn't the "religious right" that forced the United States Supreme Court to repeatedly issue rulings on areas of law that would have been better left to legislatures.

These and other developments have indeed mobilized new activists across the country, many of who see a vast disparity between what they believe ought to be public policy and what is becoming that policy by judicial fiat. They have every right to participate in politics, and they can be expected to refuse to support elected officials who ignore their concerns.

Attempts to silence them, marginalize them, or to encourage others to do so are not arguments against their positions, but admissions that those positions represent majorities that cannot be refused a place at the law-making table.



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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 09:57 am
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but it is wrong and demagogic to attempt to question the right of people of faith to participate in politics.


It is NOT wrong to do so when said people continually and willfully show no ability to seperate their religion from their policy and judgement.

Our country was founded on and ran for over a hundred years by some very religious people who NEVER let their religion into the public debate, because they knew it had no place there. It still doesn't.

Cycloptichorn
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 10:03 am
There is a vast difference between the religious right who make every attempt to inject and impose their religious beliefs on to the laws of this nation . And those who would allow people the freedom to make their own judgement. I think that is called freedom.
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Instigate
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 11:58 am
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
Instigate wrote:
Has the Democrat Party become the Pinko-Commie party?

There are kooks on both sides of the aisle. Both parties hold up the oppositions fringe elements as representaives of the whole. You, of course, are a shining example of this tactic.


That's a pretty easy one to address. Bush and his major players in his organization constantly and publicly link themselves with God, their religious faith, and being guided and applying the principles of their Christian faith. One of Bushs' first big things for instance was Faith based charities. He has stated that he feels God called him to his current postition.

Now that's a fact.

Conversely, I have never read, seen, or heard of any Democrat, major league or minor, make the same claims about their Commie/Pinko beliefs. Have You?

I think you're a little hyper sensitive there my friend. Or maybe just an instigator. No cigar on this one.


Its a fact that every president has to profess a belief in God. To my knowledge, nobody has ever run as an Agnostic or Atheist. Its true that the Religious Right has gotten much press lately, and Bush has certainly spurred that trend, but I am skeptical of the contention that a bunch of holy rollers just crawled out of the woodwork and seized the party because Bush says "God" at every opportunity. Nor do I belive that Bush actually consults God for advice on Foreign and Domestic policy. In a sense, The Republican party has long been the "Party of God", as most of the highly religious people vote that way, but its nothing new. The emphasis on the religious factor and the press is the new thing

I am not religious in any way, and neither are the vast majority of the other Republicans I know, but I dont live in the deep south.

You havent heard anyone claim Commie/Pinko beliefs because that would doom any public official. Socialist would have been a better choice of words, and the Democrats certainly run on a more socialist oriented agenda, and gain votes by promising free healthcare and government assistance to one and all; just as the Republicans gain votes by harping about God.

Its all about pandering to people and making the other party look bad.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 01:41 pm
but you still have just agreed with my statement. Republicans and the Bush crowd do invoke the name of God and associate themselves that way at every opportunity.

The Democrats NEVER describe themselves as Commie/Pinkos.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 01:47 pm
I think commie/Pinkos was a bad choice. atheistic-mini-dictator-wannabe's would be much better fitting.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 01:59 pm
McGentrix wrote:
I think commie/Pinkos was a bad choice. atheistic-mini-dictator-wannabe's would be much better fitting.


Perfectly acceptable if the repubs will accept Party of False Gods and Prophets as predicted in Revelations :wink:
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 02:03 pm
I heard that Bush thinks he IS God
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 02:04 pm
Intrepid wrote:
I heard that Bush thinks he IS God


God is not amused. Mad
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 02:07 pm
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Nor do I belive that Bush actually consults God for advice on Foreign and Domestic policy.


This directly contradicts statements he and others have made in the past, yaknow.

Cycloptichorn
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 31 Mar, 2005 02:08 pm
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
I heard that Bush thinks he IS God


God is not amused. Mad


Amen to that
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