au1929 wrote:brahmin
That is not true one can convert to Judaism. It is difficult and just saying you want to convert as in other religions will not suffice.
As for who is or is not a Jew. Anyone born to a Jewish mother is by birth considered to be a Jew. The religion passes through the mother who or what the father is- is irrelevant
lmao thats precisely what i said - that one cant convert to judaism.
"jews dont try to force their religion on others.
you are born a jew or you never become a jew.
no two ways about it.
see there are exeptions to everything.
hindus also have the same principle."
i have personally known cases where only the dad was jewish and the mom a goy/gentile (pls let me know the difference if you know) - and the son had to be inducted into judiasm by special ritual/ceremony - and even then its doubtful if the state of israel will recognise him as a true jew - orthodox jews wont for sure.
and i got the "mother has to be jew" part spot on too.
PS : is that because the hebrews (as different from the jews - no moses yet) had to devise a way that would disqualify ishmael (notice not ismael) and retain only itzhak (not issac) as the true next generation of hebrews after abraham? hagar was a hittie, speaking a language which was of inflective and of the indo aryan family - as different form the hebrews like abraham/ibrahim and sarai, who were semetic, with a abjad language - hebrew. correct me pls.