Has the Schiavo case Become a Political Football?

Parados - you're another innocent in world diplomacy evidently. FYI the Iranians are NOT Arabs. Less talking, more reading, wouldn't come amiss <G>

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HofT,

I am sure the people on the street in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia would not care one whit if Israel used a nuclear weapon in the Mideast. After all it is "only Iran".

I must be an innocent to actually think otherwise.

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parados wrote:

HofT,

I am sure the people on the street in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia would not care one whit if Israel used a nuclear weapon in the Mideast. After all it is "only Iran".

I must be an innocent to actually think otherwise.

Parados - check wind patterns on the day of the nuclear attacks. Radioactive plumes move with the wind, and all those you mention are upwind 98% of the time. Evidently you're not Indian or Pakistani, but shouldn't you care about those folks ALSO, even though they're no more Arab than the Iranians <G>

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HofT wrote:

blueveinedthrobber wrote:
I agree with JW. Americans don't have the attention span to hold this against anyone.

Unless of course in 2008 there is a Swift Boat Veterans for Terri Schiavo group funded by the democrats, there should be no political fall out.

Ah, a new clown, naturally endowed with a clownish name - so much in demand on this macabre thread. Regrettably I've no recollection of voting for the gentleman in the (repulsive, btw) photograph as sole representative of 280 million Americans - must be the faulty attention span he mentions <G>

Who pissed in your cornflakes ? I was under the impression I was entitled to my opinion. You're the first person since I've joined to attack me personally and in the short time I've been here I've disagreed with a bunch of people. Repulsive is as repulsive does friend. Try some Gingko for that faulty memory, and remember that you have the right to log off the thread if you find it so macabre as to offend your obviously superior sensibilities, but I've been through every page on this lengthy post and no where has anyone sent out a call for your opinion on it. So you see, we have more in common than you think. We could meet and do lunch and cocktails. I'm sure you're just as charming in person as your genteel and welcoming comments to me indicate. So, lunch then? Very Happy

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Beautiful women never eat lunch, ya dimwit! We also never eat breakfast. You want to invite us to candlelit dinners at the best nightclubs in Roswell (?!), try with another one, as I'm leaving for the Far East tonight. All the best to both of you <G>

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HofT wrote:

Beautiful women never eat lunch, ya dimwit! We also never eat breakfast. You want to invite us to candlelit dinners at the best nightclubs in Roswell (?!), try with another one, as I'm leaving for the Far East tonight. All the best to both of you <G>

Beauty of course is in the eye of the beholder. I would most likely consider a woman who never ate breakfast or lunch an anorexic stick as opposed to a beauty, but this is, after all an opinion thread. Enjoy the Far East. Perhaps a little geisha training might sweeten your disposition.:wink:

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dlowan wrote:

nimh wrote:
Related?

Gallup Poll and CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll, 3/21-23/05 (compared to three days earlier)

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"

Approve 45% (-7)
Disapprove 49% (+5)
Unsure 6% (+2)

Approval lowest since Bush was first elected in 2000.

CBS News Poll. March 21-22, 2005 (compared to last month)

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"

Approve 43% (-6)
Disapprove 48% (+4)
Unsure 9% (+2)

Approval lowest since 11 October 2004 (right after the second debate)

Nimh - you believe those polls may reflect beliefs about this case?

Can't be sure. Ratings go up & down a couple percent all the time. But the dowturn is rather sudden and extreme. I mean, take the Gallup one. Ever since the elections, Bush's approval has been in the 49%-55% range. For all of the past month, it's been stable at exactly 51-52%. Now within three days a drop by 7%. The CBS poll has only been published three times since Bush's election, and it had his rating at 51%, 49% and 49%. This month, its down 6 points. I don't know - what else happened this week that could have caused the sudden change?

Not that I think it'll last much, mind you. But its supporting evidence to the polls that asked directly about the Schiavo case when it comes to showing Americans did not, on the whole, appreciate the GOP leadership's intervention here.

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Oh, I just saw JustWonders' post on this. She suggests the drop could have been caused by rising gas prices. Good one - thats something I could never have picked up on. But I'm sceptic though. Havent gas prices been rising for a while now? Has that really been something of the last one month (re: the CBS poll)? And what about the Gallup poll - that showed a drop of no less than seven percent within three days. Have gas prices rocketed last week, specifically?

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Gas prices have been in a yo-yo motion for some years now. It seems the "experts" in the field are saying that gas prices will probably ramain at current levels, but what do the experts know? LOL

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Dookiestix wrote:

JustWonders wrote:
The majority of people will not vote on this issue. Think "Elian Gonzalez".

Was Elian Gonzalez braindead? And last I looked, he seems rather happy being back with his father and family. All in all, a happy ending (IMO).

I think JW's point was that just like in the Elian case, there is only a minority that agrees with the strident attempts at political intervention - but it agrees very intensely and might even let their next vote depend on it, while the majority that disagrees with it is likely to have forgotten most about it by the time of the next vote. I think that's probably correct.

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at polling report dot com there are a couple more polls showing about the same drop in approval...except the Time poll.

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

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It's also interesting to note that the "Don't Know" group has all the control. LOL

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nimh wrote:

Oh, I just saw JustWonders' post on this. She suggests the drop could have been caused by rising gas prices. Good one - thats something I could never have picked up on. But I'm sceptic though. Havent gas prices been rising for a while now? Has that really been something of the last one month (re: the CBS poll)? And what about the Gallup poll - that showed a drop of no less than seven percent within three days. Have gas prices rocketed last week, specifically?

Perhaps Bush's falling poll numbers are indicative of an American populace's collective realization regarding the incompetence of this administration.

But I would also venture to guess that this latest intervention by Republicans in power, who made a blatant attemp at thwarting American federalism, is the most telling, and has probably forever tarnished America's trust in the Republican Party. As they have already demonstrated how far they are willing to go to intervene in our lives, we now know their true intentions.

We can't trust the Republican party, and we can't count on the Democratic party. Where's a poor American citizen to go?

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Thee Doll House.

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blue wrote:

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Beauty of course is in the eye of the beholder.

It appears brains are too. HofT fails to understand much outside her limited viewpoint. Check her response to my sarcasm concerning her statement about 'nuking' Iran.

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Dookie, Where are the poor American citizens to go - indeed! The two party system in this country has failed "all Americans" - even though most still doesn't realize it.

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It's a horrible, I know, but this whole issue makes me wish Terri would hurry up and die so we can all get on with our lives and get back to what is important.

Like the Michael Jackson trial.

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blueveinedthrobber wrote:

at polling report dot com there are a couple more polls showing about the same drop in approval...

Just the one really. The Newsweek poll of March 17-18 also had Bush's rating down. That pleads against the supposition that it has to do with the Schiavo case, because that was before he got involved, right?

But both the Pew poll directly after and the Time and other previous polls before did not show such a drop. The Newsweek drop was a one-off until the CBS and Gallup polls suddenly showed even steeper drops, the Gallup one even within the three days. Which does suggest a correlation.

Dunno. We'll see. The responses to polls directly about the Schiavo case were unambiguious enough, in any case.

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