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Testimony of a young Swedish victim of gang rape

 
 
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 03:17 pm
@coldjoint,
The problem is your extremism.

The principle is pretty clear. There are decent Muslims (along with decent Christians, Hindus and Jews) and there extremist Muslims (along with extremists Christians, Hindus and Jews). People should be judged by their personal values, not by their religion or ethnic group.

You are making this ridiculous argument based on your extremist interpretation of Muslim scripture. This is irrelevant of course... a decent Muslim decides that his reading of the scripture calls him to live a good peaceful life, than who cares what you think of the Koran? I have also shown you that an extremist reading of the Bible is just as troubling, justifying genocide, rape, killing your own children and slavery... but many Christian choose something other than the extremist version of their religion.

The real issue here is White Supremacy and Christian Nationalism.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 03:20 pm
@maxdancona,
Let's ask the obvious question.... if your hatred of Islam doesn't come from White Supremacy, then I would expect that your beliefs would differ in a substantial way from other White Supremacist beliefs.

Can you give an example of where you disagree with the White Supremacists on any policy point?

Do you believe that Mexicans are invading the US?
Do you believe that Black Lives Matter is about killing cops?
Is there any issue where you support the idea that minorities are human beings?

This is just standard White Supremacist rhetoric all around. It is the same old story that Goebbels told, White Culture is under threat from minorities and from multi-culturalism and a sinister plot to dominate White people..
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 03:39 pm
@maxdancona,
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The problem is your extremism.

This is about extreme as I get, got anything else? There is nothing extreme in knowing your enemy. Or nothing extreme in telling people what I know and facts bear out.
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The real issue here is White Supremacy and Christian Nationalism.

In what world?
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 03:40 pm
@maxdancona,
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Do you believe that Mexicans are invading the US?
Do you believe that Black Lives Matter is about killing cops?
Is there any issue where you support the idea that minorities are human beings?

Do you know what irrelevant means?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 03:45 pm
@coldjoint,
You are an extremist who is demonizing people based only on their ethnicity. We are posting on a White Supremacist thread.

I think your White Supremacist beliefs are relevant.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 04:01 pm
@maxdancona,
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I think your White Supremacist beliefs are relevant.

I do not mean to perpetuate a lie by quoting you. I have already said I am not a supremacist. And you saying I am means 0. The fact is Islam says it is OK to rape Western women has nothing to do with anyone's supremacy but Islams.

You can't handle the heat and try to transfer the blame to something else. Deflection and 0 rational answers from you.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 04:13 pm
@coldjoint,
An extremist view of the Christian Bible also says it is OK to rape girls taken in war. I don't know enough about Hinduism or Buddhism, but I suspect that rape is part of an extremist view of all religions.

You should judge people based on who they are individually, rather than on their ethnicity or religion. That seems like a perfectly rational point.

When you say that White people, as a group, are better than Muslims... and that an individual White Christian person should be treated better than a Muslim based solely on their religion, that is the very definition of White Supremacy.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 05:08 pm
@maxdancona,
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that is the very definition of White Supremacy.

Who cares, unless you mean to say Islam is just as hateful. And was hateful long before they ever saw many white men. You are making excuses for what the religion teaches. You will never solve any problem before you recognize it.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 05:17 pm
@coldjoint,
Really,

I have met Christians who aren't hateful. I have met Muslims who aren't hateful. Who they are as people is important. Their religion isn't important.

I have never met a White Supremacist who isn't hateful. Have you?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 05:30 pm
@maxdancona,
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Who they are as people is important.

How will that stop Islamic terrorism? Rape is terror, too.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 05:46 pm
@coldjoint,
White Supremacist Extremist hate is not the the answer.

You don't stop Islamic Terrorism by attacking Muslims who aren't terrorists. You don't stop Christian Nationalist violence by attacking Christians who aren't violent extremists.

People should be judged by who they are as individuals, not by their ethnicity or religion. If someone is a terrorist, or a rapist, or a bigot why does their religion matter?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 06:04 pm
@maxdancona,
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White Supremacist Extremist hate is not the the answer.

I never said it was, where are you getting this crap from? Not only is it irrelevant to this girls rape and what Islam says, it is not white supremacists doing this, is it? It is followers of Islam living by Sharia.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 06:36 pm
@coldjoint,
1. This video is from a Neo-Nazi site. We don't even know if this girl is real or not.

2. There are lots of rapes committed by people of all religion. And there are lots of Christians who never rape anyone. And there are lots of Muslims who never rape anyone.

3. There are no rape survivors who are grateful that their rapist was a Christian instead of a Muslim. Rape is pretty horrible no matter what the ethnicity of the rapist.

4. There are no White Supremacists claiming that Christianity tells Christians to rape even though rape is in the Christian Bible. If they did, it would be just as bigoted.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 06:48 pm
@coldjoint,
My uncle earned a Purple Heart from a shrapnel wound fighting the Nazis in WWII. Now, after 65 years, these anti-Muslim idiots are still shouting 'Heil Hitler' in their racist little marches.

It is a little frustrating.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 07:27 pm
@maxdancona,
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these anti-Muslim idiots are still shouting 'Heil Hitler' in their racist little marches.

I have not seen one demonstration against Islam where anyone said that. That is the names they are called. You are confused and angry you cannot put a dent in anything I have said about Islam. Remember Islam and the Nazis were allies.

But please show me an anti-Islam protest where that happened.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 07:39 pm
@coldjoint,
Quite a few of them that are easy to Google.

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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 07:40 pm
@coldjoint,
Quite a few of them that are easy to Google.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 07:51 pm
@maxdancona,
He didn't say that, you can't hear very well. The other one has nothing to do with Islam. Remember these protestors are not happy with what Islam has done and is doing. So show me one that counts.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 07:57 pm
@coldjoint,
These groups marching and yelling "Seig Heil" all share your views about Islam. I can give you all sorts of videos.... the Nordic Resistance Movement, the National Socialist Movement. These groups all tell the same story about how Muslims are threatening White Culture.

Do you disagree with these neo-Nazi groups. How your beliefs differ from theirs?

I think you should just own up to it.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2018 08:06 pm
@maxdancona,
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These groups marching and yelling "Seig Heil" all share your views about Islam.


Then they have common sense. Anyone should oppose Islam who values life and freedom.
 

 
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