rufio
Wins what? The toys' war?
You mean
Aside from listening to music at a whim.
Not tripping and falling over objects in the dark.
Having friends in far off places around the world I could never visit by walking.
The ability to have a job that involves no heavy lifting, manual labour or con work.
Being able to speak to any of my friends instantly should I require help or a friendly ear.
Reading the variety of historical literature from one fixed location.
Finding out any fact I care to know with a minimum of effort.
Defying the laws of gravity.
Reaching the top of the food-chain.
Having better weapons for self defence than my fingernails and teeth.
Feeding the current population of the earth.
Curing disease.
Living to incredible ages in good health.
Using drugs that can induce happiness beyond any natural experience.
Is this a trick question?
watchmakers guidedog wrote:You mean ...
... Defying the laws of gravity. ...
No argument with mosta that list there, partner, but as an old airplane driver, I can assure ya yer only foolin' yerself if ya think gravity can be distracted, let alone defied; it never looks away, and it wins every time.
Oh, and welcome to A2K - hope yer enjoyin' the place.
Thanks Timber, I am enjoying my stay.
Forgive me if I get a little poetic at times, it fitted more neatly into a sentence than "utilise lift to thrust vectors over a curved surface to temporarily elevate devices to a suspended position above the earth's surface" :wink:
watchmakers guidedog
Yes.
And aside:
Destruction of the basis of the food chain.
Destruction of the environment.
New and fatal diseases.
To forget to walk in order to go from one place to another (without your car!). If you never tried, I assure you it is very good to walk some milles everyday in the woods (Well, if there are any woods left where you live).
To fall, under the laws of gravity.
Having better weapons in order to kill a dozen kids in a school, or millions in a war.
Letting die of hunger huge populations in Africa.
About drugs: they had it already in the past. It is called wine.
Val - the point was, it's not a war over toys so much as a war over quality of existence.
Also - the "basis of the food chain" and "the environment" is being destroyed through misuse, not neccessarily technology (unless you were thinking of something more specific); new diseases appearing is a natural result of any change in environment; and I'm not sure what technology has to do with starving people in Africa.
And humanity has had access to LOTS of halucinatory drugs for as long as they've been around, I think...
rufio
What I was trying to show is that the civilization based on technology creates the good and bad things of our time. It is utopian to think that we can have the ones without the others.
And that idea of yours: to have, to have, and to have. That is what I call the "toy's war".
Quality of existence: to me, is to read a book, hear my favorite music - in CD but also in concert - talk to my friends - physically present. And walk, walk.
The person I most loved is dead and technology will not bring her back.
You know: except for my showers, my home, and other little things, I don't think technology has brought the miracles you claim.
