Where is the US economy headed?

@Ceili,

I agree with "all" of that! We're so screwed-up, we no longer know what's up or down. Those running for political office are supposed to be the smartest and brightest, but they learn to do dumb **** stuff when they get into office.

It's no wonder our congress has a rating lower than 20; and they don't seem to give a damn.

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@izzythepush,

And I can assume you will write your MP or PM or BM or whatever you've got?

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@Ceili,

They're the best people in the world to tax...they're not voters.

BTW - A similar argument is made by "rich" Americans.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

I wouldn't write to Cameron he's an oily ****. I'm on first name terms with my MP, he already knows how I feel. I don't know what a BM is, are you being a bit frivolous?

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@izzythepush,

Yes

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Well stop being silly, and start being a bit more sensible. Get some sensible trousers..

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Sad but true... I recently heard a real estate expert warn Canadians NOT to buy american property because this will be the next tax down the line, taxing foreign property owners.
Dumb way to try and get back to the top. Canadian investors are second only to China in the US. Mexico here we come... at least they have honoured the free trade agreements.

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@Ceili,

Unless I'm mistaken, Snowbirds already get in in the neck when it comes to assessments to fund FL's state owned insurance company.

Same principle as hotel and resort taxes.

The trick is to wean all of the politicans from their addiction to spending other people's money.

If we can do a good enough job at that we can take our top income tax rate down to 5% and run the country with that and whatever taxes we can get off visiting Canadians.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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and we can save some money?

What do you want to save money for? You can print it can't you? What would you do with all the airmen and airwomen and the kit if they came back?

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USAF bases in the United Kingdom

* RAF Alconbury (USAFE)
o 7560th Air Base Group (ABG) (1953–1959)
o 10th Tactical Reconnaissance Wing /Tactical Fighter Wing (1959–1994)
o 423d Air Base Group (1995– )
* RAF Barford St John
o 422d ABG (1993– )
* RAF Bentwaters/RAF Woodbridge (USAFE) *
o 79th Fighter Squadron (FS) (1952–1970) (RAF Woodbridge)
o 81st Tactical Fighter Wing (TFW) (1951–1993)
(RAF Bentwaters to 1958, Bentwaters/Woodbridge to 1993)
* RAF Burtonwood (Air Materiel Command) *
o 59th Air Depot Wing (1948–1965)
* RAF Blenheim Crescent (EOARDS/USAFE)
o 422d Air Base Group (2007– )
* RAF Chelveston (SAC/USAFE) *
o SAC Reflex Base (1952–1959)
o 42d Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron/10th Tactical Reconnaissance Wing (1959–1962)
* RAF Chicksands (USAFSS) *
o 10th Radio Sq (1950–1951)
o 7534th Air Base Squadron (ABS) (1951–58)
o 6950th Radio/Security Gp (1958–1978)
o 7274th Air Base Group (1978–1993)
* RAF Croughton (USAFE)
o 1969th Communications Squadron (CS) (1950–1955)
o 1230th Airways and Air Communications
Service Squadron (AACS) (1955–1961)
o 2130th Communications Squadron (1961–1971, 1983–1986)
o 2130th Communications Group (1971–1980, 1986–1993)
o 2168th Communications Squadron (1980–1983)
o 630th Communications Squadron (1993–1994)
o 603d Communications Squadron (1994–1996)
o 422d Air Base Squadron (1996–2005)
o 422d Air Base Group (2005– )
* RAF Fairford (SAC/USAFE)
o 7507th Air Base Group (1950–1952)
o 3919th Air Base Group (1952–1964)
o 7020th Air Base Group (1979–1989)
o 11th Strategic Group (1984–1992)
o 420th Air Base Group (2004– )
* RAF Feltwell (USSC)
o 5th SSS/21st SW

* RAF Greenham Common (SAC/USAFE) *
o 7501st Air Base Squadron (1951–1953)
o 3909th Air Base / Combat Support Group (1953–1964)
o 7551st Combat Support Group (CSG) (1964–1968)
o OLA, 20th TFW (1976–1979)
o 501 TMW (1982–1991)
* RAF Lakenheath (SAC/USAFE)
o 7460th BCS (1948–1949)
o 7504th ABG (1949–1953)
o 3913th ABS (1953–1955)
o 3910th ABG (1955–1960)
o 99th ADS (1959–1960)
o 48th TFW (1960– )
* RAF Manston (USAFE) *
o 123d FBG (1951–52)
o 406th FIW (1952–1958)
* RAF Little Rissington (USAFE) *
o 870th Contingency Hospital (1981–93)
o 20th TFW (1981–93) accommodation for RAF Upper Heyford
* RAF Menwith Hill
* RAF Mildenhall (SAC/USAFE/AMC)
o 7511th ABG (1950–1955)
o 3913th ABG (1955–1959)
o 7513th ABG (1959–1966)
o 513th MAW (1966 – )
o 100th ARW (1992 – )
* RAF Molesworth (SAC/USAFE)
o 582d Air Resupply Group (1951–1956)
o 482d Troop Carrier Sq (1956–1957)
o 303d TMW (1986–1989)
o 423d ABG (1989– )
* RAF Sculthorpe (SAC) *
o 47th BW (1952–1962)
* RAF Shepherds Grove (USAFE) *
o 116th/78th FBS (1951–1958)
* RAF Upper Heyford (SAC/USAFE) *
o 7509th ABS (1950–1951)
o 7509th ABG (1951–1952)
o 3918th ABG (1952–1958)
o 3918th CSG (1958–1964)
o 3918th SW (1964–1966)
o 66th TFW (1966–1970)
o 20th TFW (1970–1993)
* RAF Upwood (USAFE)
o 10th TRW/TFW/ABW (1959–1994)
o 423d ABG (1995– )
* RAF Welford (USAFE)
o 420th ABG (2005– )
* RAF Wethersfield (USAFE) *
o 20th TFW (1951–1970)

Is that all a big mistake made by Democrat and Republicans in roughly equal measure? Have you been playing with your toy fort again Finn?

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@Ceili,

Ceili wrote:

Just today, the American government actually decided to bring in a new tax. Not against the rich, but your most frequent visitors. Great way to cure the economy... Tax people who actually spend money and bring business to your country. Perhaps we should do the same to every barrel of oil, or water, or power...

Canada sells far more to the USA than it buys or spends here. The US is a net importing nation (our fault), while Canada is a net exporter, solely as a result of a very favorable balance of trade with the US. If I'm not mistakemn the tax in question is about $5.00/person per visit. I'm no fan of such chicken **** taxes, however the shrill indignation of Canadians about any restriction whatever on their ability to extract money from this country (lumber quotas, taxes, etc.) is very tiresome.

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@spendius,

Whatever we do with them it will be cheaper doing it here than in the UK.

I'm for selling their services as mercenaries. We're already policing half the world. We might as well make some money for it. Look how much these private merc companies make. Once it's up and running for a while, Republicans and Democrats can fight over privitizing it.

We can set up a governmental advisory board that can look at whether or not the potential job is in our national interests or in tune with our values.

If it's not, we mark the standard price up by 250%

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@Ceili,

How can we miss. We've got two feet, and more than two guns. We just can't help shooting ourselves in the foot.

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@georgeob1,

There's that word again Gob... Are Americans ever shrill? Or is only when others talk about the States they are seen as shrill, or perhaps is only when women speak.
I invite you to take a drive down Canadian streets. They are littered with American companies. So we net export our raw goods and you sell it back to us at inflated prices. Maybe, as I've said, we should look for other markets who will abide by trade agreements. You don't want our stuff, cool. I'm sure other would like them, even at a premium.
You know what's tiresome... You still haven't figured out that you have 10 times our population, should we, as I've asked before consume 10x our needs?
Extract what money? You're broke. It's China's money your spending and all the other nations you've borrowed money from.
And the tax is 5.50 per head... Since we are mostly forced to fly through the states to get anywhere, I guess it makes sense to fleece us just for being alive and having the temerity to take a breath on American soil.
The USA is the largest recipient of foreign investment in the world, I was wrong, Canada is actually the 5th largest donator. Europe (as a group) is second. After the ripple effect your bad banking policies have created world wide, it's little things like this that will turn off investment tap. It's not just Canadians who are forced to pay these "fees". You are biting the hand that feeds you.

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@izzythepush,

I dident think that I would ever agree with you on anything but this time I agree with you on moving U.S. troops out of europe and most other other countries as well.

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@roger,

Big guns... amazing you still have feet. lol

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@Ceili,

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There's that word again Gob... Are Americans ever shrill? Or is only when others talk about the States they are seen as shrill, or perhaps is only when women speak.

The latter two.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Yup, I concur..

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@Ceili,

Isent an "american" company in canada by defination a canadian company in that they pay taxes to Canada rather than the U.S.? Its why American companies move to canada in order to avoid paying U.S. taxes.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Whatever we do with them it will be cheaper doing it here than in the UK.

You are certainly aware, Finn, that than the USA wouldn't get some money from the "bilateral cost sharing", money that is paid by the host nation as support to the USA? (Germany pays roughly 25% of all costs, plus the rent-free barracks and accommodations for the families.)

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

Canada sells far more to the USA than it buys or spends here.

I did some data checking. I assure you I am not cherry picking. I can provide year by year numbers.
2008: U.S. exports to Canada: $261BN vs U.S. imports from Canada: $340BN = a trade deficit of $79BN.
2010: U.S. exports to Canada: $249BN vs U.S. imports from Canada:
$277BN = a trade deficit of $28BN.
I have no idea what is involved here. But these are some raw numbers.

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