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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 10:35 am
@Baldimo,
Unfortunately the problem for the post office isent efficency but econimics. The computer and e mail, the cell phone and texting, ups and all the other shipping industries have cut into the post office business. They have been down sizeing and are probebly on the way out which will enable the UPS companies to raise their prices to what ever they want to charge. At which point I am sure someone will figure out it would have been cheaper to keep the post offices. By the way the shipping companies use our small post office to ship thier goods locally. One truck brings all the shipped goods to the post office and than pays them to distribute them locally. It saves them shipping costs.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 11:19 am
@Baldimo,
Where have you been during the past two decades when the computer and iPhone took over communication? The demand for postal services have been declining some twenty years, and you don't understand why business for the USPS have been dropping? Amazing!
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 11:24 am
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 11:27 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

This is very interesting indeed. Wasn't the Post Office held up as a paragon of govt effencientcey when we were having the health care debate? We would ask to be shown a govt agency that was efficient and we were told the post office. "You mail a letter and it gets there." To bad it is like every other govt agency in that it can't do it for the budget it is given.


"You mail a letter and it gets there." There is a long standing confusion between efficiency and effectiveness. A shotgun is an effective way to kill a fly. A fly swatter is efficient - unless your aim is very bad.
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Miller
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 01:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
"cicerone imposter"
Where have you been during the past two decades when the computer and iPhone took over communication? The demand for postal services have been declining some twenty years, and you don't understand why business for the USPS have been dropping? Amazing!


One reason it's declining is the growth of the nonreading public. Who reads books today? Who subscribes to magazines today?

I for one still buy books ( the paper ones ) and I subscribe to several magazines, which the mailman deposits in my mailbox.

Folks who "tweet" all day, usually aren't readers and those on iphones all day merely are lonely and confused folks looking for other lonely/confused folks to blabber with. Neither is a reader and neither is a real communicator of valuable ideas.

Do you suppose the IRS will next be conducting an audit of tax returns via the "tweet" method?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 01:58 pm
@Miller,
How do you know there is a drop in reading? Can you provide some reliable source for such a claim?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 01:59 pm
@Miller,
Quote:
One reason it's declining is the growth of the nonreading public. Who reads books today? Who subscribes to magazines today?
I think the major place where the post office went wrong was to encourage junk mail by having extremely low rates for mass mailers. I am the customer, and I dont want junk mail, and since that is mostly what the post office delivers now I place a low value on the post office.....they no longer have my support when they come to the taxpayers for money. I think they should raise the basic rate to $1.00, raise the junk mail rates about 800%, and cut delivery to three days a week except for businesses and government offices that can reach a certain daily volume threshold.....that should solve most of the funding problems, and then I would be completely fine with the rest coming out of taxes.

EDIT: that might actually solve the problem so long as about half the head count could be cut with something like a normal severance package. I assume that we need to put the post office into bankruptcy and void the union contracts and commercial mail transport contracts first.
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Miller
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 02:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The "Decline" of Reading in America, Poverty and Access to Books, and the use of Comics in Encouraging Reading

Stephen Krashen
Teachers College Record, February, 2005

This paper is written as a response to these questions, posed by the editors of TC Record: Many newspapers across the country have run the following statistics: The 2002 census shows that literary reading is down 10.2% from the 1982 census, which equates to the loss of 20 million potential readers. Even more striking is the numbers reported for young adults. In 1982, 60% of young adults engaged in literary reading, while in 2002, only 43% do. Is this cause for alarm? If it is, what can be done to remedy this situation? Some educators have suggested using movies and graphic novels as a bridge to literary reading. But, is this an effective bridge; does bridging guarantee that students will take an interest in reading? Further, some have suggested that by offering some students graphic novels, while offering other students novels, we are undermining the nature of public education. But, is this missing the point? Do new media like graphic novels and film serve as an effective education tool in themselves; do they even have to be used as a bridge in order to have an educational benefit?

Many newspapers across the country have run the following statistics: The 2002 census shows that literary reading is down 10.2% from the 1982 census, which equates to the loss of 20 million potential readers. Even more striking is the numbers reported for young adults. In 1982, 60% of young adults engaged in literary reading, while in 2002, only 43% do. Is this cause for alarm? If it is, what can be done to remedy this situation? Some educators have suggested using movies and graphic novels as a bridge to literary reading. But, is this an effective bridge; does bridging guarantee that students will take an interest in reading? Further, some have suggested that by offering some students graphic novels, while offering other students novels, we are undermining the nature of public education. But, is this missing the point? Do new media like graphic novels and film serve as an effective education tool in themselves; do they even have to be used as a bridge in order to have an educational benefit?

Before addressing the issue of whether we should use movies and graphic novels to encourage reading, I first need to state that it is not at all clear that reading has declined in the US. The "decline" in reading literature was reported by Reading at Risk, published by the National Endowment for the Arts (Bradshaw and Nichols, 2002a). Reading at Risk only counted novels (in book form), poetry, and plays as literature, excluding magazines, on-line reading, and graphic novels. Also, data from earlier surveys suggests that the "decline" may not be stable: In 1945, 41% said they read literature, substantially less than the 1982 and 1992 results, and nearly identical to the Reading at Risk results (Link and Hopf, 1946). In addition, NEA reported, in another publication, that intellectual life in the US remains vigorous. There has been no change since 1982 in the percentage of people who do creative writing, attend plays, art, museums, and operas, and who use public libraries (Bradshaw and Nichols, 2002b).

There are, nevertheless, substantial numbers of children who do not read well. For the most part, these are children of poverty; the obvious cause of their reading problems is a lack of access to books.

Research shows that those who have more access to books read more, and those who read more read better. Children of poverty have little access to reading material at school: Schools in low-income neighborhoods have inferior classroom and school libraries (Duke, 2000; Neuman and Celano, 2001). They have less access to books at home (Feitelson and Goldstein, 1986), and they have less access to books in their communities: Public libraries in low-income areas are of inferior quality and are open less (Di Loreto and Tse, 1999; Neuman and Celano, 2001). The most important part of the cure for these children is improved school and public libraries, a suggestion supported by research showing a relationship between reading achievement and library quality (Lance, Welborn, and Hamilton-Pennell. 1993; Krashen, 1995; McQuillan, 1998; Lance, Hamilton-Pennell, Rodney, Petersen, and Sitter, 1999).

For the most part, "reluctant readers" are usually those with little access to books (Worthy and McKool, 1997). But even when books are available, there are, of course, some children who do not read (Pack, 2000). There is no current research that I know of on the use of graphic novels, but there is evidence suggesting that comic book reading can be a conduit to "heavier" reading. In our study, we found that middle school boys who read comic books read more in general than boys who did not read comics, read more books, and enjoyed reading more (Ujiie and Krashen, 1996).

There are also compelling case histories of children who were reluctant readers until they discovered comics. Haugaard, (1973, p. 85) writes that her sons were "notoriously unmotivated to read and had to be urged, coaxed, cajoled, threatened and drilled in order even to stay in super slow group in reading" until they discovered comics.

She reports that her eldest son

...devoured what seemed to tons of the things ... The motivation these comics provided was absolutely phenomenal and a little bit frightening. My son would snatch up a new one and, with feverish and ravenous eyes, start gobbling it wherever he was - in the car on the way home from the market, in the middle of the yard, walking down the street, at the dinner table. All his senses seemed to shut down and he became a simple visual pipeline (Haugaard, 1973, p. 85).

Comic reading led to other reading. After a year or two, Haugaard's eldest son gave his collection away to his younger brother (who now "pores over the comic books lovingly"), and Haugaard noted that "he is far more interested now in reading Jules Verne and Ray Bradbury, books on electronics and science encyclopedias" (Haurgaard, 1973, p. 85).

Several eminent writers and thinkers give comics the credit for helping them develop the competence for and interest in "heavier" reading. Among them is South Africa's Bishop Desmond Tutu:

One of the things that my father did was to let me read comics. I devoured all kinds of comics. People used to say, "That's bad because it spoils your English," but in fact, letting me read comics fed my love for English and my love for reading. I suppose if he had been firm I might not have developed this deep love for reading and for English ?" (Tutu, 2004).

For additional cases, see Krashen, 2004.

A popular criticism of comic book reading and of "light reading" in general is that children, once they start to do light reading, will never move on to more serious reading. Reassuring evidence comes from the case histories mentioned above as well as the finding that readers gradually expand their reading interests as they read more (LaBrant 1958).

What about movies? The concern that movie-going may inhibit reading has been around for a long time. Cleary (1939) reported that heavy movie goers, those who attended more than three films per week (5 percent of her sample) read more books and read higher quality books.

To summarize, although there is no evidence for an obvious decline in interest in reading in the United States, there are many children who do not read well. For the most part, these are children of poverty who have little access to books. The solution to their "reading problem" is straight-forward: improved school and public libraries. For those with access to books who are still "reluctant" readers, there is good reason to believe that comic book reading and other forms of light reading can serve as a conduit to "heavier" reading.

References

Bradshaw, T., and Nichols, B. (2002a). Survey of public participation in the arts. Washington, DC: National Endowment for the Arts, Division Report #45.

Bradshaw, T. and Nichols, B. (2002b). Reading At risk: A survey of literary reading in America. Washington DC: National Endowment for the Arts Research Division Report #46

Cleary, F. (1939). Why children read. Wilson Library Bulletin, 14, 119-126.

Di Loreto, C., and Tse, L. (1999). Seeing is believing: Disparity in books in two Los Angeles area public libraries. Public Library Quarterly, 17(3), 31-36.

Duke, N. (2000). For the rich it's richer: Print experiences and environments offered to children in very low- and very high-socioeconomic status first-grade classrooms. American Educational Research Journal, 37(2), 441-478.

Feitelson, D. and Goldstein, Z. (1986). Patterns of book ownership and reading to young children in Israeli school-oriented and nonschool-oriented families. Reading Teacher, 39, 924-930.

Haugaard, K. (1973). Comic books: A conduit to culture? Reading Teacher, 27, 54-55.

Krashen, S. (1995). School libraries, public libraries, and the NAEP reading scores. School Library Media Quarterly, 23, 235-238.

Krashen, S. (2004). The power of reading. Portsmouth: Heinemann and Westport, CN: Libraries Unlimited.

LaBrant, L. (1958). An evaluation of free reading. In C. Hunnicutt and W. Iverson (Eds). Research in the three R's. (pp. 154-161). New York: Harper and Brothers,.

Lance, K., Welborn, L. and Hamilton-Pennell, C. (1993).The impact of school library media centers on academic achievement. Castle Rock, CO: Hi Willow Research and Publishing.

Lance, K., Hamilton-Pennell, C., Rodney, M., Petersen, L., and Sitter, C. (1999). Information empowered: The school librarian as an academic achievement in Alaska schools. Juno: Alaska State Library.

Link, H. and Hopf, H. (1946). People and books: A study of reading and book-buying habits. New York: Book Manufacters' Institute.

McQuillan, J. (1998). The Literacy crisis: False claims and real solutions. Portsmouth: Heinemann.

Neuman, S. and Celano, D. (2001). Access to print in low-income and middle-income communities. Reading Research Quarterly, 36(1), 8-26.

Pack, S. (2000). Public library use, school performance, and the parental X-factor: A bio-documentary approach to children's snapshots. Reading Improvement, 37, 161-172.

Tutu, D. (2004, June 12). Interview with Archbiship Desmond Tutu. Academy of Achievement. Available: http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/tut0int-1

Ujiie, J., and Krashen, S. (1996). Comic book reading, reading enjoyment, and pleasure reading among middle class and Chapter I middle school students. Reading Improvement, 33(1), 51-54.

Worthy, J. and McKool, S. (1996). Students who say they hate to read: The importance of opportunity, choice, and access. In D. Leu, C. Kinzer, and K. Hinchman (Eds.). Literacies for the 21st century: Research and practice. (pp. 245-256). Chicago: National Reading Conference
Miller
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 02:13 pm
Things are bad, when you see a medical student at a school as famous as Harvard using a coloring book to study human anatomy.

What happened to Grey's anatomy?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 02:49 pm
@Miller,
Interesting article; I used to let my children read comic books too, and they have graduated with honors from college. It seems readership is down for both published and media, and see future problems for our children's ability to compete in the world marketplace.
okie
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 06:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Interesting article; I used to let my children read comic books too, and they have graduated with honors from college.
Surprise, ci and I have something in common, as I let my kids read comic books too! Even my grandson age 7, read a beetle bailey comic book to me recently, which he thought was hilarious. Maybe he will be college material, ci?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 06:10 pm
@okie,
Building interest in reading at the beginning of their education is the key; IMHO.
okie
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 09:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Agreed. Reading well is the gateway to doing almost anything successful in life.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2011 09:38 pm
@okie,
It also helps if you can remember what you read.
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2011 05:41 am
It's one thing to read comics when you're 7 years old and something else when you're a medical student, when the course text is Grey's Anatomy.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2011 05:49 am
@Miller,
There's more wisdom in comics than in most other things.
Miller
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2011 06:02 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

There's more wisdom in comics than in most other things.


That may be true. However, the goal of any course on Gross Anatomy is not to gain wisdom. If one's academic goal is the attainment of wisdom, one should participate in a course on philosophy, not Gross Anatomy.
okie
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2011 09:29 am
@Miller,
Miller wrote:

It's one thing to read comics when you're 7 years old and something else when you're a medical student, when the course text is Grey's Anatomy.
My brother was a pysician all of his working career., and a top notch one, thank you. AND YES, HE EVEN READ Comic books. H e even drew his own comic cartoons as a kid.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2011 01:18 pm
@Miller,
From what I understand, comic books are very popular among the adult population of Japan. No wonder all they have to export are cute little novelty items and ball point pens that don't work.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2011 04:32 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

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Obama's speech before Congress looks like it will call for $400Bn in stimulus (except it won't be called stimulus) which will fall under the umbrella of "creating jobs." I suspect that Obama will lay out the half dozen or so ideas we have talked about but he will not scold Congress for previous inaction.
He will do that when he hits the campaign trail for the plan - and for his own reelection - in a few days.
 

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