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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
Miller
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 10:49 am
dyslexia wrote:
I have lost about $40,000 in the past week in the market. I began major diversification about 2 years ago heading more on the lines of global funds. I am not worried at this point in time. I expect that in 2 r 3 months the volatility will settle. I am an optimist re the economy.


I'm of the opinion that it'll be at least 6 months or more before the credit problems are at least partially resolved.
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 10:59 am
dyslexia wrote:
I have lost about $40,000 in the past week in the market. I began major diversification about 2 years ago heading more on the lines of global funds. I am not worried at this point in time. I expect that in 2 r 3 months the volatility will settle. I am an optimist re the economy.

So Bush is your man - doing a great job with the economy?
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Miller
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 11:02 am
How is Bush related to ARMs?
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Miller
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 11:04 am
okie wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
I have lost about $40,000 in the past week in the market. I began major diversification about 2 years ago heading more on the lines of global funds. I am not worried at this point in time. I expect that in 2 r 3 months the volatility will settle. I am an optimist re the economy.


So Bush is your man - doing a great job with the economy?


Some of us have done really well in the market, during Bush's tenure. Don't you like that 15% capital gains tax, or would you like to pay more?
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 11:49 am
I have been a Bush supporter in regard to his tax cuts. I was only needling dyslexia because I get the impression he greatly dislikes Bush and has made negative comments on the economy in the past, yet he now says he is optimistic in regard to the economy.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 12:45 pm
okie wrote:
I have been a Bush supporter in regard to his tax cuts. I was only needling dyslexia because I get the impression he greatly dislikes Bush and has made negative comments on the economy in the past, yet he now says he is optimistic in regard to the economy.
exactly what have I said, in the past, that is negative re the economy and, exactly, how have I blamed Bush? Yes, I greatly dislike Bush but my dislike had nothing to do with the president and the economy, I am not quite that ignorant. Needle away okie but, my living is a total result of investment, I can't afford petty politics to get in the way of paying my bills.
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 12:52 pm
dyslexia wrote:
While it doesn't seem to have merit with the ilk of okie,
Quote:
More than two thirds of Americans believe the U.S. economy is either in recession now or will be in the next year, according to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.

That assessment comes despite the fact that, since the recession that ended early in President Bush's term, the U.S. economy has experienced sustained growth with low inflation and unemployment and generally rising stock values.

The NBC/Journal poll also reflected some mixed feelings about the economy. Just 15% and 16%, respectively, rated current conditions as very good or very bad. Yet growth in consumer spending has slowed, and concerns over health costs, job security and the rich-poor gap have left Americans downbeat about the road ahead.

"They're ambivalent about the current economy but pessimistic about the future," says Republican pollster Neil Newhouse, who conducts the Journal/NBC survey with Democratic counterpart Peter Hart.

"The macro-economy is reasonably healthy," observes Mr. Corzine, former CEO of Goldman Sachs. "But the reality for the majority of America is they're lucky if they hold on….The numbers are different from what the feel is on Wall Street."

Poll respondents expressed limited anxiety about the affects of either the housing market decline or stock market turbulence on their personal circumstances. Just 20% said shifting stock values lately have had a negative impact on their finances, while 17% said the same about home price declines.

So which is it, dys? Does the above article just have no merit with the "ilk of okie," or are you saying now that you disagree with it as well? Perish the thought that you now might be agreeing with the "ilk of okie."
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 01:04 pm
actually, I would never agree with the ilk of okie which I assume to be only politically based, I get all by advisement from republicians/democrats/libertarians/independents and make my own judgments. I don't read the same for you.
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 01:24 pm
You did not answer the question. I quoted you which included an article that generally showed the population to be negative on balance, at least that was my take, and you said that the "ilk of okie" would not agree with it. Yet, now, you claim you are optimistic about the economy, which would agree with me and not with the article. So I will try again, which is it?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 01:40 pm
dyslexia wrote:
I have lost about $40,000 in the past week in the market. I began major diversification about 2 years ago heading more on the lines of global funds. I am not worried at this point in time. I expect that in 2 r 3 months the volatility will settle. I am an optimist re the economy.

If you're not worried in the face of losing $40,000 to the stock market, surely you wouldn't mind wiring $40,000 to me? Just trying.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 01:58 pm
Thomas wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
I have lost about $40,000 in the past week in the market. I began major diversification about 2 years ago heading more on the lines of global funds. I am not worried at this point in time. I expect that in 2 r 3 months the volatility will settle. I am an optimist re the economy.

If you're not worried in the face of losing $40,000 to the stock market, surely you wouldn't mind wiring $40,000 to me? Just trying.


Thomas, That's the most brilliant idea posted on a2k; I'm going to get next in line. dys? LOL
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okie
 
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Reply Sun 5 Aug, 2007 07:28 pm
Third in line.

But somehow I doubt he would give anything to the "ilk of okie?"

P.S. I would never have suspected from the picture that a supposed hick from Wolf Hole, AZ would be an investment guy on that scale.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 5 Aug, 2007 07:44 pm
okie wrote:
Third in line.

But somehow I doubt he would give anything to the "ilk of okie?"

P.S. I would never have suspected from the picture that a supposed hick from Wolf Hole, AZ would be an investment guy on that scale.
I'm quite sure a lot of things about most of the a2k posters would surprise you.
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parados
 
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Reply Sun 5 Aug, 2007 08:29 pm
dyslexia wrote:
okie wrote:
Third in line.

But somehow I doubt he would give anything to the "ilk of okie?"

P.S. I would never have suspected from the picture that a supposed hick from Wolf Hole, AZ would be an investment guy on that scale.
I'm quite sure a lot of things about most of the a2k posters would surprise you.



Dys, does this mean you are the only librul that isn't on welfare and being supported by okie?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Mon 6 Aug, 2007 04:22 am
parados wrote:
Dys, does this mean you are the only librul that isn't on welfare and being supported by okie?

Dys is a limousine librul. The worst kind of them all. Like George Soros, Dys plays the stock market whenever he's not busy hating America. Are the recent stock market troubles all his fault? I reported, you decide.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 6 Aug, 2007 07:03 am
Thomas wrote:
parados wrote:
Dys, does this mean you are the only librul that isn't on welfare and being supported by okie?

Dys is a limousine librul. The worst kind of them all. Like George Soros, Dys plays the stock market whenever he's not busy hating America. Are the recent stock market troubles all his fault? I reported, you decide.

exactly. I also graduated the 8th grade,
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 6 Aug, 2007 07:32 am
dyslexia wrote:
okie wrote:
Third in line.

But somehow I doubt he would give anything to the "ilk of okie?"

P.S. I would never have suspected from the picture that a supposed hick from Wolf Hole, AZ would be an investment guy on that scale.
I'm quite sure a lot of things about most of the a2k posters would surprise you.


I would think nearly all - even (or especially?) about those who are from "okie's camp" :wink:
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 6 Aug, 2007 07:36 am
Heck, dys, I done better en you! I graduated from 9th grade!
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 6 Aug, 2007 09:22 am
dyslexia wrote:
Thomas wrote:
parados wrote:
Dys, does this mean you are the only librul that isn't on welfare and being supported by okie?

Dys is a limousine librul. The worst kind of them all. Like George Soros, Dys plays the stock market whenever he's not busy hating America. Are the recent stock market troubles all his fault? I reported, you decide.

exactly. I also graduated the 8th grade,

I'm glad to know it.

Thomas suggests you hate America when you aren't busy makin money. I would have never guessed that for a place that allows a man to lose a few hundred grand without even losing sleep over it.

Hows the weather in Wolf Hole? You getting any smog and dust from the traffic going to the Grand Canyon Skywalk?
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Mon 6 Aug, 2007 09:31 am
Thomas wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
I have lost about $40,000 in the past week in the market. I began major diversification about 2 years ago heading more on the lines of global funds. I am not worried at this point in time. I expect that in 2 r 3 months the volatility will settle. I am an optimist re the economy.

If you're not worried in the face of losing $40,000 to the stock market, surely you wouldn't mind wiring $40,000 to me? Just trying.



That would be a problem since the 40k is already lost, except it wasn't really lost as it was a paper loss resulting from a counter trend rally. IMO the recent bull market is cyclical and the secular bear market, which began in 2000, continues. Secular markets last anywhere from 8-15 years generally. Had I had more than 5% of my portfolio in the market, I would have cashed in when we hit that high a couple weeks ago--- anyone with any investment savvy could see those gains are not sustainable---but I have so little in that it wasn't worth worrying about.

Anyway, the stock market is not the economy, the market responds to investors perception of where corporate profits are headed. The global economy is churning along right now and US corporations are only tagging along with the ride. As far as the kitchen table issues that affect most Americans, the qualis have yet come home to roost.

When the reality of of paying for the Iraq War and all the other pay me now or pay me later bills come due i.e. rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, dealing with global warming, etc, the quails will indeed come home to roost and it won't be a pretty site.
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