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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 02:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I've wondered about the financial management skills of local governments for years. Now, the recent spike in energy cost has made budgets tight but it was hardly a surprise. Shoddy building construction hardly helped.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 02:45 pm
@plainoldme,
Why did you never wonder about Obama's lack of financial management skills?
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:04 pm
@reasoning logic,
I do realize that the study of reality sucks but I was hoping that someone might be able to give me a reality check!

What is so bad about a peer review of reality?
okie
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2011 08:33 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

I do realize that the study of reality sucks but I was hoping that someone might be able to give me a reality check!
Liberalism is not realism, so the immediate question in regard to your statement is - why would you have any liberal views or beliefs if you think reality sucks? There are so many examples that could be cited, but one that comes to mind about giving you a reality check - is to ask yourself if it is realistic to believe that anyone can spend their way to prosperity? If you think so, you flunk the reality check and need to re-evaluate your beliefs.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2011 08:51 pm
According to Bernie Sanders, the top 400 individuals own more of the wealth of American than the bottom 150,000, 000.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2011 09:40 pm
@plainoldme,
It's been reported that the top 10% owns over 70% of America's wealth. The GOP doesn't want them to pay more in income taxes, but want to reduce their taxes.

The GOP wants to make sure they end up with 100% of the nation's wealth, and they're doing a good job, because even Obama extended the Bush tax cuts.

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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 12:06 am
Bush and Republican economic policy damned near destroyed our economy. Obama stopped the death spiral, restored the trust of investors that the economy would not be allowed to continue to fall, and that it was safe to invest again because the companies you dealt with would still be there tomorrow, and turned the economy around. the recession is over, the economy continues to look upward, hiring which is a trailing indication is going up again. H2 Oboy may hope the economy fails, but in spite of his wishes it's not.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 04:41 am
@MontereyJack,
Bush and Republican economic policy damned near destroyed our economy. (loud booing). Obama stopped the death spiral,(cheers) restored the trust of investors that the economy would not be allowed to continue to fall,(more cheering) and that it was safe to invest again (loud cheering) because the companies you dealt with would still be there tomorrow,(sustained loud cheering) and turned the economy around. (loud, sustained cheering and foot stamping} the recession is over,(whoopees and whistling) the economy continues to look upward,(dancing in the aisles) hiring which is a trailing indication is going up again.(jackets off, sleeves rolled up and communal hugging). H2 Oboy (hisses and boos) may hope the economy fails, but in spite of his wishes it's not. (hoorays-singing of For He's a Jolly Good Fellow).

Heigh ho, heigh ho, it's off to work we go.

What would unemployment be if the dole was $50,000 as real socialists claim it should be. $14,119 trillion divided by 305 million is about that.

Why has Mr Obama been presiding over drastically unequal distributions of wealth for so long? The Romans would not have put up with that if the economy was close to destruction.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 04:47 am
@spendius,
There is something wierdly anti-evolutionary in voting for more work. The sooner we get rid of all these religious institutions the better eh?
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 05:55 am
I posted this quote from Bernie Sanders on my Facebook page. A friend of my younger son responded to say that Michael Moore originally made that statement in a speech and that it was subsequently checked.

My daughter then weighed in suggesting that the 150,000,000 put together a protest. Interesting notion.

One of my remedial students, who is probably about 30, wrote an essay dealing with the fact that non-skilled work in the service sector does not support a family. Why are people being forced to earn degrees/certificates to earn enough money for food, clothes and rent? But even people with degrees are not making enough money.

The lunatic fringe, amply represented on this forum, continually asks why the "producers," as they call them, should support the "non-producers?"

The real question is why should 150,000,000 support 400?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 06:41 am
@MontereyJack,
Rrrriiiight.... Drunk
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 06:42 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Liberalism is not realism


Correct.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 08:46 am
@MontereyJack,
Jack-- what did you make of the millions of man and woman hours of "work" which were obviously involved in the Royal Wedding when it is, as a scientific fact, a mere biological incident which can only be distinguished from taking a brood mare to a stallion by superstitious knuckledraggers of the most fundamentalist sort whose heads have been fucked off their shoulders by stirring music, dazzling colours, mob hysteria, mumbo jumbo, dignified arm movements, displays of economic waste, pomp, circumstance and secluded intermissions at intervals calculated by scientific observation to be congruent with the normal cyclical operations of the human bladder and the hunger reflex?

Do you think Prince Harry was trying to work out the best way to get the other Middleton wench, Pippa, into a quiet room at the Palace later in the day and giving her the what for? I would have been in his shoes. In my prime I mean, as he self-evidently is. It's an English tradition anyway almost verging on a human right in respect of Best Mans. Exceptions being allowed for virgin bridesmaids of course, when required, but I hardly think Pippa's friends would think it a consideration in this case. If ever there was a day of tradition this was it. Tradition is a sort of evolutionary alternative to consitutions. The latter involve some dramatic, thought up on the spot, mutation/s; usually for the benefit of the legal profession. Which might itself be a tradition but only of the materialistic plane whereas Tradition manifests itself in the sacramental depths and is never chiselled out in short, snappy sentences on blocks of stone nor on the cerebral cortex.

The World's love affair with English tradition is staring you in the face. There are no logical arguments valid to deny it.

And after all--for several years on Burns Night, accompanied by bagpipes, Pippa has carried the haggis into a pub called the Old Boot Inn at Stanford Dingley in Berkshire. And in 2008, Tatler magazine named her "the Number 1 Society Singleton", beating the singer-songwriter James Blunt and Princess Eugenie: which is going some I suppose. It is code for a lady having had more pricks than a second-hand dartboard.

Harry insisted on serving in Afghanistan. Squaddies in such a dump would supply him with an aspect of his education that had been neglected and which he felt might be useful to him.

The scene later in the evening when Harry finally goes over to the chief bridesmaid, who is sulking because he was playing snooker in the Palace Billiard Room all night, with a view to explaining his duty under the constitution, would be a great scene in a space-age movie. It would make a fortune and boost the US economy like The Grateful Dead did using the tradition that the cops don't bust anybody boosting the US economy. Never did as far as I can tell.

Buy the rights to the original footage, which is only a spool of repatterned electromagnetic tapes in a safe ( which in modern prose implies much more than a reinforced steel box with a fancy lock,).

Montage bits of it, in the first hour, with going up and down stairs, getting in and out of conveyances, walking alongs, and all the other stuff they pad movies out with. Then the Big Scene. Then the subsequent scandal when Pippa introduces Harry to traditions with a longer history than the squaddies know about. A blockbuster. With an obvious sequel.

Ideas drive economies.





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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 09:39 am
@okie,
Okie, you know about this Kern lady?

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_04/029189.php

She's giving away the game in your state by actually saying out loud, what the rest of you just think or say in private.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 09:58 am
@Cycloptichorn,
That's what conservatives do; backtrack on their honesty to lie in the future to make it sound like their mistake in speaking was "misinterpreted."

How many conservatives buy that bull ****? 100%?
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okie
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 10:38 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Okie, you know about this Kern lady?
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_04/029189.php
She's giving away the game in your state by actually saying out loud, what the rest of you just think or say in private.
Cycloptichorn
No, I do not know about Kern. I read your link, and if she said what is quoted, the woman does not represent me or conservatives at all, nor does she express what I believe, not even close. And she should be ashamed of herself. She probably is now. Unfortunately, there are people still around that will say things like that. Remember, Oklahoma has elected many great blacks to office. Remember J.C. Watts?

As a reminder, liberals have been caught saying some pretty stupid things as well.

I will add this. I know its a cliche to say some of my best friends are black, but seriously, my stepdad belonged to the VFW and a couple of the best guys there were black and good friends. My parents used to go to lunch at the VFW every day or so where they had a program of serving members, and they always had a good time with all, including black and white members.Also, a couple sang at my parents 50th wedding anniversay reception and it was fantastic.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 10:40 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Okie, you know about this Kern lady?
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_04/029189.php
She's giving away the game in your state by actually saying out loud, what the rest of you just think or say in private.
Cycloptichorn
No, I do not know about Kern. I read your link, and if she said what is quoted, the woman does not represent me or conservatives at all, nor does she express what I believe, not even close.


On the contrary. She is not only quite Conservative herself, she's from a heavily Conservative district. So it is in fact fair to say that she represents Conservatives - it's her job.

Quote:
And she should be ashamed of herself. She probably is now. Unfortunately, there are people still around that will say things like that. Remember, Oklahoma has elected many great blacks to office. Remember J.C. Watts?

As a reminder, liberals have been caught saying some pretty stupid things as well.


Fair enough, I accept your condemnation of her.

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 10:47 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
On the contrary. She is not only quite Conservative herself, she's from a heavily Conservative district. So it is in fact fair to say that she represents Conservatives - it's her job. Cycloptichorn
Do you endorse everything coming out of every other liberal's mouth, cyclops?
Anyway, thanks for accepting my condemnation of her. I am being honest about how I feel about it.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 10:53 am
H2 Oboy, re your emoticon, you're still drinking the Faux News moonshine, I see.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 10:56 am
@MontereyJack,


MJ, you are a delusional fool and we laugh at you.
 

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