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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2011 07:23 pm
@okie,
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To expand on my post, I believe the SUV market in the U.S. was greatly influenced by regulation as much as it was the American people wanting big cars. Specifically, a big reason for the success of SUV's was the seat belt and child restrain laws in this country.


Non sequitur
okie
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 02:00 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Quote:
To expand on my post, I believe the SUV market in the U.S. was greatly influenced by regulation as much as it was the American people wanting big cars. Specifically, a big reason for the success of SUV's was the seat belt and child restrain laws in this country.

Non sequitur
Absolutely not. Cyclops attempted to make the point that Americans wanted big cars for mostly the reason they just like them, but I pointed out that there are probably other reasons for people buying SUV's, including the reason I gave in the above, which of course contradicts his and your liberal tunnel vision template. In other words, you do not seem to be able to comprehend,face, or understand some opposing facts to your agenda.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 02:18 pm
@okie,
okie, You are the only poster on these boards with tunnel vision; you can't see outside of your very biased conservative base. You have no ability to say anything good about liberals or Obama; never. Your mind is set in cement; and just as dumb.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 02:53 pm
@okie,
Laws which force parents to use seat belts have nothing to do with the popularity of SUVS. Is is possible to come up with a more ridiculous statement? Would you prefer toddlers were allowed to climb over seats while parents drove down freeways?

Rather, it was the lone stay-at-home mom in the neighborhood who ferried the kids to nursery school who needed seven seats that made the SUV popular.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 02:56 pm
@okie,
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In other words, you do not seem to be able to comprehend,face, or understand some opposing facts to your agenda.


It's official. If you fired a gun that you held against your temple, no damage would be done.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 05:29 pm
@plainoldme,
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Rather, it was the lone stay-at-home mom in the neighborhood who ferried the kids to nursery school who needed seven seats that made the SUV popular.


Whence the need?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 06:06 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

plainoldme wrote:
Quote:
To expand on my post, I believe the SUV market in the U.S. was greatly influenced by regulation as much as it was the American people wanting big cars. Specifically, a big reason for the success of SUV's was the seat belt and child restrain laws in this country.

Non sequitur
Absolutely not. Cyclops attempted to make the point that Americans wanted big cars for mostly the reason they just like them


Woah there. I absolutely and definitely did not make that point, ever. I only said that VW stated that they didn't think they could make enough money selling them here to cover the costs of doing so and make a profit, and that before going into conspiracy theories, you ought to consider the fact that they probably know what they are talking about.

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but I pointed out that there are probably other reasons for people buying SUV's, including the reason I gave in the above, which of course contradicts his and your liberal tunnel vision template. In other words, you do not seem to be able to comprehend,face, or understand some opposing facts to your agenda.


I would be stung by this, if I had actually forwarded the argument you are attributing to me, which I did not.

Try and be accurate about what I said if you want to criticize me.

Long as we're at it, though:

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Specifically, a big reason for the success of SUV's was the seat belt and child restrain laws in this country.


Say what? Why do you think this is true?

Cycloptichorn
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 06:16 pm
@plainoldme,
Are you being a little hard on him? Maybe I am wrong but from my delusional observations you may have great grand children that may share his view points and vice versa!

If I am correct, Which I can only guess that I may not be! "How would the both of you respond toward one another in a way that would show that you mean no harm but instead that you are only trying to convey the best understanding of reality that you have?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 06:45 pm
@reasoning logic,
rl, You need a reality check on yourself; it's not pom or Cyclo that are unreasonable. You need to go back many years to the times of Abuzz to understand what's going on; your history on a2k lacks the necessary judgement about the personalities on a2k. It seems your reading of the many exchanges on the subject of politics and economics between okie et al and the "rest of us" lacks conceptual interpretation of okie's lies and misinformation.

I can only advise you in a friendly way not to get in the middle.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 06:47 pm
@reasoning logic,
I do think that the both of you are already doing what I have asked in the question. I just thought that it would not hurt to ponder on it for a bit!
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 06:50 pm
@reasoning logic,
Ponder what? You're trying to give us a lesson on what, exactly?
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 06:50 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I have never said that I understood, that is why I used my delusional observations to convey that I am at a loss but I always try too add value even though I can't at times!
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 07:11 pm
@reasoning logic,
okie is like a character the late Jim Backus might have voiced.

In fact, that observation is so bang on that I googled Mr. Magoo and found this description of okie in wiki:

Quincy Magoo (or simply Mr. Magoo) is a cartoon character created at the UPA animation studio in 1949. Voiced by Jim Backus, Quincy Magoo is a wealthy, short-statured retiree who gets into a series of sticky situations as a result of his nearsightedness, compounded by his stubborn refusal to admit the problem. However, through uncanny streaks of luck, the situation always seems to work itself out for him, leaving him no worse than before.

Affected people (or animals) consequently tend to think that he is a lunatic, rather than just being nearsighted.

Mr. Magoo's first appearance was in the theatrical short cartoon The Ragtime Bear (1949), scripted by Millard Kaufman. His creation was a collaborative effort; animation director John Hubley is said to have partly based the character on his uncle Harry Kerry, and W. C. Fields was another source of inspiration.

Magoo was originally conceived as a mean-spirited McCarthy-like reactionary whose mumbling would include as much outrageous misanthropic ranting as the animators could get away with. Kaufman had actually been blacklisted, and Magoo was a form of protest. Hubley was an ex-communist who had participated in the Disney animators' strike in 1941. Both he and Kaufman had participated in the blacklist front and perhaps due to the risk of coming under more scrutiny with a successful character, John Hubley, who had created Magoo, handed the series completely over to creative director, Pete Burness.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 07:26 pm
@plainoldme,
I am not saying that you are wrong in your observations! But lets say you are correct. Why do you continue to respond to such a character when you think that he is grossly wrong?

I do apologize for possibly asking to many questions, It is just that I have a great interest in human behavior!
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 08:05 pm
@reasoning logic,
It's a missionary impulse: I am trying to save a lost soul.

In reality, I use this forum to practice writing. To me, it is largely just a series of prompts.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 08:08 pm
@plainoldme,
I am beginning to feel that you are a 17-year-old girl for whom English is not her first language.
okie
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 09:06 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
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Specifically, a big reason for the success of SUV's was the seat belt and child restrain laws in this country.

Say what? Why do you think this is true?

Cycloptichorn
Because I have read it in the past, I think more than once, though I could not find a good link now. I have also e observed it as fact among many friends and relatives. I have talked to neices and nephews with kids that have explained the obvious fact that I am pointing out here, that it is simply impractical to haul their families in tiny cars with the necessary room and safety requirements. Come on cyclops, all you have to do is go by the kids soccer and other games and you will see soccer moms and dads hauling their kids and friends kids to and from games, and they all have to be buckled up. This is plain common sense, by observation. Go to the shopping malls and grocery stores and watch the cars come and go when there are kids being transported.
okie
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 09:09 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

I am beginning to feel that you are a 17-year-old girl for whom English is not her first language.
I hope you realize you just told yourself that, pom? You are at least entertainment on this forum as an example of an unhinged liberal. Maybe you are being honest, and you are only a 17 year old girl?
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 09:11 pm
@okie,
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This is plain common sense, by observation.


Oh, Magoo, you've done it again!

A seat belt does take up so much space! They're about 1/16th of an inch thick and about 2 and 1/2 inches wide. The belt buckles are about 4 and 1/2 inches long by about 3 and 1/2 inches wide.

Yep! With all that bulk, Doris, we had better get an SUV!
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 09:14 pm
@okie,
Well, Magoo, the post was an addenda to my answer to reasoning logic.

Glad to bring a smile to a sour old bully like you! What would your day be like without someone to insult or push around? Enjoy! Enjoy!
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