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Where is the US economy headed?

 
 
parados
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 10:18 am
@okie,
Quote:
At least McCain is a man that loves his country. We don't have a case of that in Obama, who seems to despise the country and the citizens he governs.

Of course.. the right wing nutcases get to decide who loves their country based on politics.

You are the one that appears to despise your country okie. You put your politics ahead of your country every day it seems.

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Far from perfect, but many of us would love to have Bush back now in exchange for the current disaster.

This shows how out of touch you are okie. The current disaster started under Bush and it will take a long time to fix. Anyone who isn't so partisan can see that.

Simple facts..
recession started before Obama took office. Obama inherited an economic storm that could have caused the country to collapse according to many economists, you know, people that actually study economies.
Jobs normally lag in a recovery no matter who is President or what the policies are.

Having Bush back wouldn't have prevented the disaster you claim now exists and certainly wouldn't have reduced federal deficits.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 10:40 am
@parados,
As proof of what you are saying, it was under GW Bush that the bailout of banks started; not after. That was the crisis that started this Great Recession.

okie wants GW Bush to finally destroy our country; it seems obvious conservatives love disasters.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 10:46 am
@cicerone imposter,
Yes, and as was mentioned on another thread. The TARP fund was signed into being by Bush. Obama didn't do anything other then distribute TARP funds that Bush created with his signature.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 10:47 am
@parados,
plainoldme wrote:
Simple facts..
recession started before Obama took office. Obama inherited an economic storm that could have caused the country to collapse according to many economists, you know, people that actually study economies.

Obama has been expanding Bush's errors, and making Bush's recession Obama's depression.

HERE ARE THE TRUE FACTS!
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ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt
Year……TOTAL US CIVIL EMPLOYMENT
1980……………..99 million [CARTER]
1988…………… 115 million [REAGAN]
1992…………….118 million [BUSH41]
2000……………137 million [CLINTON]
2007………..….146 million [BUSH43]
2008………….. 145 million [BUSH43]
2009,……….....140 million [OBAMA]
2010.……………139 million [OBAMA] (June)

Year.…….PERCENT OF CIVILIAN POPULATION EMPLOYED
1980…………………………………….59.2 [CARTER]
1988…………………………………….62.3 [REAGAN]
1992…………………………………….61.5 [BUSH41]
2000…………………………………….64.4 [CLINTON]
2007…………………………………….63.0 [BUSH43]
2008…………………………………….62.2 [BUSH43]
2009…………………………………….59.3 [OBAMA]
2010…………………………………….58.5 [OBAMA] (June)


parados
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 10:49 am
@ican711nm,
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HERE ARE THE TRUE FACTS!


Don't you mean, here you are mixing numbers without realizing that you can't do that?

Monthly numbers do not compare to yearly numbers for unemployment. You have been told this repeatedly but are just too stupid to understand it I guess.
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 11:31 am
It is not true that the public misses Bush. In a new Time poll, the public weighed in as follows.

– 61 percent blame the Bush for the “balky economy,” while 27 percent blame Obama.

– 53 percent favor Obama over Bush (33 percent).

– 55 percent favor Obama over Sarah Palin (34 percent) in a hypothetical 2012 presidential campaign.

The Siena Research Institute also just released a poll of presidential scholars, who rated Bush in the “bottom five” of U.S. presidents throughout history. They rated him 39th. Other presidents in the bottom five were Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce. Obama was ranked 15th.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 11:35 am
@okie,
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About all he does is go "uh, oh, uhhh, uh," and then provide some vague foggy answer to a question.


I just wanted to point out that this is complete bullshit. A lie. In a debate, Okie, he would make you look like a fool, and you know it. So why do you persist in trying to tear the man down in an area in which he is clearly superior to pretty much every other politician out there?

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 11:49 am
@Advocate,
It's funny that the likes of okie wants GW Bush back as our president. Just goes to show how uninformed he is about US politics.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 12:20 pm
Please, you ODD, face reality!
Obama has been expanding Bush's errors, and making Bush's recession Obama's depression.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 02:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

It's funny that the likes of okie wants GW Bush back as our president. Just goes to show how uninformed he is about US politics.


Okie is much worse than being merely ignorant. He is a serial liar and libeler.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 03:11 pm
@Advocate,
okie's labels are meaningless; they don't have any truth or fact in them.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 04:43 pm
@Advocate,
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The state received $7 from the American taxpayer for every dollar the state paid into the treasury.


What???!!!! Are you saying (gasp Sad ) that the late Senator Stevens TOOK "PRIVATE PROPERTY" FROM THE DESERVING AMERICANS WHO WORKED HARD FOR IT AND GAVE IT TO PEOPLE WHO NEVER WORKED A DAY IN THEIR LIVES? Embarrassed Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 04:47 pm
@parados,
Would have been nice if McCain had loved his first wife. Yes, the young McCain was handsome, but, good looks are no excuse for being a douche bag.

What a moral man!

Came home from Vietnam -- where only god and McCain know the truth (and McCain ain't tell it) about what happened there -- to find his once stunning wife was a wreck of a human being.

What did he do? Comfort the wife who stood by her man? No, the douche bag unzipped his fly and went on a cross country **** where he met Cindy, a woman from the same moral gutter he was wading in. She was young and rich and she promptly spread her legs.

Let's hope that McCain doesn't love America in the same way he loved the first Mrs. McCain!

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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 04:48 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Simple facts..
recession started before Obama took office. Obama inherited an economic storm that could have caused the country to collapse according to many economists, you know, people that actually study economies.


To see what people who "actually study economies" have to say, read my post from Harvard Magazine.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 04:49 pm
@ican711nm,
Idiot, parados wrote that. What a buffoon! Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk Drunk
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 04:50 pm
@parados,
Sorry but ican can not even cut and paste correctly! He credited your post to me!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 05:47 pm
@parados,
okie wants to equate "love of country to good governance." What a dork!
parados
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 05:51 pm
@cicerone imposter,
If that was truly the standard then okie would hate his country based on Bush's governance.

Okie equates 'love of country to thinking like okie". If you don't agree with him then you must hate the country.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 05:51 pm
@parados,
Pretty much sums up okie.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 12 Aug, 2010 08:49 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Okie equates 'love of country to thinking like okie". If you don't agree with him then you must hate the country.


He says he has children and grandchildren.. Their lives have to be living hell with okie playing "the man behind the curtain" and the kids and grandkids all playing the part of the Scarecrow in the okie production of the Wizard of Oz.
 

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